Originally posted by Rhett Miller:I agree with Rhett here. The movie has a side story about school cafeterias and how poor the nutritional choices (and the choices made by the kids) are there too. It was an odd combination in the movie about the companies saying that the schools should teach good choices (which would mean not their food) and it is not their fault not having healthy options (the McD's salads can be worse for you than the burgers in terms of fat and the rest).
Have you seen the movie?
I came away thinking that the filmmaker was putting as much of the blame for the growing obesity epidemic on lack of personal responsibility as much as on lack of corporate responsibility.
But maybe we (I) just take away what we want from what we see.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:Of course it was. McDonalds is one of those buzzwords like "Starbucks" and "WalMart" that appeals to the liberal elitists who believe that (other) people are too stupid to make their own choices.
I agree. I don't think the point of the film was to pick on McDonald's specifically.
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I found the school part really interesting. I myself am a lefty vegetarian (since age 13) and even I, when I was in high school, was excited for pizza hut or taco bell day. Now I avoid that stuff like the plague but back then, it was half an issue of yummy choices and half about student decision making. I don't know…
I thought as a whole it was a great film, and it really impressed on me how a bad diet is just as bad as, say, smoking or not exercising.
I thought as a whole it was a great film, and it really impressed on me how a bad diet is just as bad as, say, smoking or not exercising.
-edit- Sorry, didn't see Rhett's post on MTV…seems like a pretty obvious corporate bit of bullshit, though, doesn't it?
Bags and I apparently read the same newspaper. :)
It all goes back to growing up on a stuff. On family vacations this is all we every ate for the most part. Maybe if I hadn't grown up on it I wouldn't have the cravings once in a while. For the most part if I'm eating something fast to go, it'll be Chipotle or Panera or a Whole Foods prosciutto caprese sandwich (sorry guys, can't stand Potbelly or Quizno's or Baja Fresh). Basically it's once or twice a year that I go for some low-level fast food.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:Greasy dead cow with fries so soaked in WD40 they ooze the shit when you squeeze them a treat!!!! ;) but I don't eat fast food, unless you consider Baja Fresh fast food, each to their own though….but a TREAT? Come on! Convenient when you're in a hurry maybe, but how can you call it a treat?
It's weird…while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it…
i try to cook most of my own meals or buy frozen ones at least. trader joe's is my best friend. usually meals out are somewhere that has beer. hardly ever go to mc donald's, but sometimes you need some grease to help with the hangovers
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:Chipotle doesn't sound much healthier (and is owned by McDonalds).
I'm eating something fast to go, it'll be Chipotle Basically it's once or twice a year that I go for some low-level fast food.
Chipotle's Chicken Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, and salsa) weighs in at nearly 1,000 calories and 12 grams of saturated fat.
Chipotle's Vegetarian Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, and salsa) weighs over a pound and provides 1,120 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat (14 grams).
Chipotle's Barbacoa Burrito (with shredded beef, pinto beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, sour cream, and salsa) hits nearly 1,300 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat. That's the equivalent of a Quarter Pounder, a large order of fries, and a large Coke.
http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html
oh yeah, i'm surprised its only 12 grams of fat. i would have guessed more like 20. chipotle is good stuff, but so bad for you.
most of the burritos are a whole days worth of food on weight watchers
most of the burritos are a whole days worth of food on weight watchers
I did know that they are owned by McDonald's. Panera is owned by Au Bon Pain, I forgot who owns Baja Fresh (Wendy's??).
Interesting info about the burrito. The Barbacoa is actually what I usually get there (just had one last night). Do you know if Chipotle's stuff is worse than a burrito somewhere else? I usually forego cheese and sour cream and I have it with black beans instead of pinto. I miss there being a Burrito Brothers in Georgetown.
Interesting info about the burrito. The Barbacoa is actually what I usually get there (just had one last night). Do you know if Chipotle's stuff is worse than a burrito somewhere else? I usually forego cheese and sour cream and I have it with black beans instead of pinto. I miss there being a Burrito Brothers in Georgetown.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:Chipotle doesn't sound much healthier (and is owned by McDonalds).
I'm eating something fast to go, it'll be Chipotle Basically it's once or twice a year that I go for some low-level fast food.
Chipotle's Chicken Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, and salsa) weighs in at nearly 1,000 calories and 12 grams of saturated fat.
Chipotle's Vegetarian Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, and salsa) weighs over a pound and provides 1,120 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat (14 grams).
Chipotle's Barbacoa Burrito (with shredded beef, pinto beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, sour cream, and salsa) hits nearly 1,300 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat. That's the equivalent of a Quarter Pounder, a large order of fries, and a large Coke.
http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html
I like Subway and Quiznos.
and the fact that i have gained 20 lbs in the last year has less to do with subs and more to do with Samuel Adams and Molson Canadian i think ;)
but who would want to see a movie about beer making you fat?
and the fact that i have gained 20 lbs in the last year has less to do with subs and more to do with Samuel Adams and Molson Canadian i think ;)
but who would want to see a movie about beer making you fat?
I'd see it at the Drafthouse.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
…but who would want to see a movie about beer making you fat?
Originally posted by Bollocks:When we were kids we always ate at home. Only exceptions were vacations (usually) and when my parents had bridge and my mom was cleaning the house. Then dad would take us to McDonalds. We viewed that as a treat, not eating at home, fries, all that. Eddie Murphy has a great comedy routine about McDonalds burgers.
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:Greasy dead cow with fries so soaked in WD40 they ooze the shit when you squeeze them a treat!!!! ;) but I don't eat fast food, unless you consider Baja Fresh fast food, each to their own though….but a TREAT? Come on! Convenient when you're in a hurry maybe, but how can you call it a treat?
It's weird…while I don't eat fast food on a regular basis and know it's horrible for you I still consider it a treat. Especially Wendy's burgers/fries/frosty or McDonald's breakfast once or twice a year. I probably only have it once or twice a year because that's how long it takes my digestive system to forget what happened the last time I ate it…
Originally posted by sonickteam2:We tried the Quiznos when it first opened in Aspen Hill….THAT SHIT IS NASTY!
I like Subway and Quiznos.
What about Chicken Out or Boston Market……fast food, junk or what?
i love quiznos. chicken out has been absolutly horrid 2 of the 3 times i have tried it
I should sue my high school drug dealer for having cloudy thoughts now
Originally posted by Bollocks:Boston Market is also owned by McDonalds, so it is inherently evil in some circles.
What about Chicken Out or Boston Market……fast food, junk or what?
Nutritionally, those places aren't as bad as greasy burger joints:
http://www.chickenout.com/eathealthy.asp?pg=2
http://www.bostonmarket.com/food/index.jsp?page=nutrition
looks like you could eat ok at boston market/chicken out as long as you are sensable about sides and avoid skin.
and avoid soda too. talk about something that has no redeeming value. surprised no one takes aim at pepsi
and avoid soda too. talk about something that has no redeeming value. surprised no one takes aim at pepsi
Ah, soda.
So, a friend of mine used to work for the Center for Commercial Free Public Education and they were all about bashing Pepsi and Coke for their "marketing strategies." As in, machine placement deals, sponsoring sports equipment, donating textbooks, etc.
At one point in time, Coke was donating math text books for middleschoolers that was about "If you take a two liter of Coke, that's X ounces, and divide it into can sized containers, at Y ounces each, how many cans cans of delicious coke could you fill?"
So, a friend of mine used to work for the Center for Commercial Free Public Education and they were all about bashing Pepsi and Coke for their "marketing strategies." As in, machine placement deals, sponsoring sports equipment, donating textbooks, etc.
At one point in time, Coke was donating math text books for middleschoolers that was about "If you take a two liter of Coke, that's X ounces, and divide it into can sized containers, at Y ounces each, how many cans cans of delicious coke could you fill?"
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:all the coke placement in math books still wouldn't encourage me to do math homework.
At one point in time, Coke was donating math text books for middleschoolers that was about "If you take a two liter of Coke, that's X ounces, and divide it into can sized containers, at Y ounces each, how many cans cans of delicious coke could you fill?"
mmmmm, coke.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:That's so funny…there's a quiznos in my office building, so when I started here and it was raining, etc., I'd go there. Yuck. There could be a hurricane and I'm getting across the street to Cosi's. No matter what you get, all the quiznos "subs" taste the same…. There aren't any Chicken Outs around me, but I've been a couple times and there are so many choices that it seems like you can do fine there.
i love quiznos. chicken out has been absolutly horrid 2 of the 3 times i have tried it