Originally posted by Rhett Miller:It's not wrong, but it seems that rationality isn't a strong point for Chimbly.
I don't live in Vienna, but quite probably I could live there in a detached house with a yard. I couldn't if I were in DC or even aRlington. I don't think it is either selfish or wrong to want those two things, do you?
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
I would be willing to do it. But the question is who wants to live in Vienna? I mean, come on. Maybe before whining about the difficulty of getting out there one should research options for living closer in.
But then again, that gets us back to the highly contentious "we suburban dwellers refuse to admit that our highly-polluting, sprawly, evil lifestyle is either selfish or wrong."
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm betting that Chimbley would probably be up for the challenge.
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
Would you really want to bike back to Vienna at 12:30 at night, Chimbley? Woodley Park is one thing, but I'm not sure about Vienna…
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Originally posted by keithstg:Ummm… and you're more rational in the blanket statement that it's not wrong? Hmm…
It's not wrong, but it seems that rationality isn't a strong point for Chimbly.
I should tell you that I have asthma and take any air pollution very personally. As in, believing you have a right to live father away means you're going to be getting to/from the city somehow. No matter how you do it, unless you bike/run/walk, you'll be buring fossil fuels, increasing air pollution, and shortening my lifespan.
Now, do you think it's "not wrong" for someone's personal choice to result in shorter lives for the 10,000+ Washingtonians with asthma?
But then again, we're getting back into the thread where sububanites claim they're not wrong…
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:A personal choice to live in the suburbs does not constitute a shorter life for you. And, living in the suburbs does not automatically correlate to working in DC. One could just as easily work in the Dulles corridor.
Originally posted by keithstg:Ummm… and you're more rational in the blanket statement that it's not wrong? Hmm…
It's not wrong, but it seems that rationality isn't a strong point for Chimbly.
I should tell you that I have asthma and take any air pollution very personally. As in, believing you have a right to live father away means you're going to be getting to/from the city somehow. No matter how you do it, unless you bike/run/walk, you'll be buring fossil fuels, increasing air pollution, and shortening my lifespan.
Now, do you think it's "not wrong" for someone's personal choice to result in shorter lives for the 10,000+ Washingtonians with asthma?
But then again, we're getting back into the thread where sububanites claim they're not wrong…
No, I don't see it as wrong for someone to choose to live in the suburbs - no more so than I believe that individuals can choose to smoke if they please, outdoors, which I am sure you are also adamantly opposed to. Nor do I view suburbanites (I am not one), as living "evil" lives, as you evidently do, hence the absence of rationality.
Being hit by a bus, biker, or metro car would shorten my lifespan (as it would yours). Let's then stop that, and deride all mass transit riders as evil.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
well, if you have the initial costs of buying a bike, then you have the upkeep of a bike (brakes, tires, streamers out the handlebars and a bell) . . .then the bike could get stolen or wrecked, and then you have the time spent with the police, and next thing you know your on a bus to san antonio looking for your bike at the alamo. . .but i digress. oh, despite what you state above, you can get ticketed for riding a bike when drunk (public intoxication).There's no basement at the Alamo…LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:TWO TEQUILAS!!!
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:post of the week… TEQUILA!!!!
[qb] well, if you have the initial costs of buying a bike, then you have the upkeep of a bike (brakes, tires, streamers out the handlebars and a bell) . . .then the bike could get stolen or wrecked, and then you have the time spent with the police, and next thing you know your on a bus to san antonio looking for your bike at the alamo. . .but i digress. oh, despite what you state above, you can get ticketed for riding a bike when drunk (public intoxication).
ARIBA…..!!!!!!
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I for one, wouldn't mind living in Vienna. Chimbly, I'd like to know how you expect us all to fit within the District? As I said on this board about a year or so ago (or to this effect), thank God that we don't all want to live within the urban parts or your rents/mortgages would be so exhorbatantly high that only GGW could afford a half of an efficiency and even he would have to work to keep up the payments.
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Guiny, how do we non-cop types get out of getting busted for drinking and driving. Batting eyelashes only goes so far and I'm not willing to do anything that Mankie would suggest. :p BTW, yeah, I know to first and foremost, drive sensibly so not to attract attention.
Crap! Quoted instead of editing. :roll:
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Originally posted by keithstg:But not everyone can live in the city, right? And in the closer in suburbs, the houses are quite close together, so we've certainly packed in the given area. I think as urban centers grow and become more concentrated, suburban sprawl just happens. My question always is, if populations around cities are growing so much, are they equally diminishing somewhere else?!?
[qb]in, believing you have a right to live father away means you're going to be getting to/from the city somehow. No matter how you do it, unless you bike/run/walk, you'll be buring fossil fuels, increasing air pollution, and shortening my lifespan.
Now, do you think it's "not wrong" for someone's personal choice to result in shorter lives for the 10,000+ Washingtonians with asthma?
Originally posted by Jaguär:
[qb]Well for starters, definetely make sure all your lights are working, thats one of the easiest ways to get stopped. A headlight out, tail light out, turn signal not working is their favorite reason to stop someone. There's no way, unlike speeding or running a stop sign, that you can say they stopped you for no reason. They can point to the headlight and say "see, its out, thats why I stopped him/her, and oh by the way, I smelled alcohol in the vehicle"……OUCH.
Guiny, how do we non-cop types get out of getting busted for drinking and driving. Batting eyelashes only goes so far and I'm not willing to do anything that Mankie would suggest. :p BTW, yeah, I know to first and foremost, drive sensibly so not to attract attention.