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dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him

Rhett Miller
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 03:41 PM UTC #
I would like to point out that I have bascially said the same thing that Dylan is saying. Does that make me an asshole and a douche, too?

:)

Originally posted by walkonby:
in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static." my favorite part was when he said that he believes in free downloading, because the music is worthless, anyway.
chaz
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 04:10 PM UTC #
Not for that specific reason, no.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I would like to point out that I have bascially said the same thing that Dylan is saying. Does that make me an asshole and a douche, too?

:)

Originally posted by walkonby:
in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static." my favorite part was when he said that he believes in free downloading, because the music is worthless, anyway.
you be betty
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 04:26 PM UTC #
Originally posted by who the fuck are you?:
I'd say Dylan's scathing personality is one of the main things that makes his music so great. In my mind you can't have one without the other….I love the way his cynicism and venom shine through on some of the older stuff, esp after he started turning it up. Clearly he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

Ballad of a Thin Man is good example……just love that song and that whole record.

Asshole, douche, shitbag, who cares. It's Dylan. Without him, well, who knows. I don't care how personable he is.

And as far as using one of Warhol's paintings as a dartboard, well he probably just increased its value a thousand times.
I actually wasn't even referring to that, hmm…

But yeah, I think as well that's one of the things that's so great about Dylan. He kind of knows he's a dick and knows he can get away with it because he writes brilliant music, and listening to him…if you know more about him, you want to hate him but it becomes difficult to do so because he's also so sincere. I guess I could say I respect him for speaking his mind.
chaz
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 05:20 PM UTC #
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by who the fuck are you?:
I'd say Dylan's scathing personality is one of the main things that makes his music so great. In my mind you can't have one without the other….I love the way his cynicism and venom shine through on some of the older stuff, esp after he started turning it up. Clearly he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

Ballad of a Thin Man is good example……just love that song and that whole record.

Asshole, douche, shitbag, who cares. It's Dylan. Without him, well, who knows. I don't care how personable he is.

And as far as using one of Warhol's paintings as a dartboard, well he probably just increased its value a thousand times.
I actually wasn't even referring to that, hmm…

But yeah, I think as well that's one of the things that's so great about Dylan. He kind of knows he's a dick and knows he can get away with it because he writes brilliant music, and listening to him…if you know more about him, you want to hate him but it becomes difficult to do so because he's also so sincere. I guess I could say I respect him for speaking his mind.
So then what exactly did he do to warhol?
ggw
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 05:31 PM UTC #
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
Rhett Miller
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 05:38 PM UTC #
Yes, but she ended up with Kevin Bacon, of the fabulously talented Birchmere regulars the Bacon Brothers. Funny how often everything works out perfectly in the end.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
chaz
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 05:38 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
Oh yes I think I've heard some version of that story. Boo hoo.
you be betty
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 06:32 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
He didn't just take Edie…he "stole" a good half of the guy's friends. In short, he sabatoged Warhol, and then he proceeded to lead on, lie to, and sabatoge Edie. Prick.

He had some pretty obnoxious management, too.
ggw
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 07:04 PM UTC #
In other words, Warhol's hangers on decided to hitch their wagon to Dylan instead.
walkonby
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 07:28 PM UTC #
they were all on drugs and pretending to be pretty and important (except the genius), so who cares.

warhol is the only one that matters, and he wasn't mad at dylan.
ratioci nation
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 23, 2006 at 08:21 PM UTC #
i liked that song he did about having one headlight, and edie sedgewick is awesome in that tv show
lbcardoni
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 24, 2006 at 02:36 PM UTC #
in a recent interview (rolling stone, i think) he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static
Well he obviously hasn't heard the new record by The Killers.....
lbcardoni
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 24, 2006 at 02:38 PM UTC #
he states that all music of the last twenty years sucks, and calls it nothing more than "static."
i liked that song he did about having one headlight,
Such an encouraging father…
El Tee
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 24, 2006 at 03:46 PM UTC #
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
He didn't just take Edie…he "stole" a good half of the guy's friends. In short, he sabatoged Warhol, and then he proceeded to lead on, lie to, and sabatoge Edie. Prick.

He had some pretty obnoxious management, too.
So, is he back to being an asshole, or a douche? Oh, wait, he's a dick now. :roll:

Who gives a …yeah, what sonick said.
El Tee
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 24, 2006 at 03:51 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Yes, but she ended up with Kevin Bacon, of the fabulously talented Birchmere regulars the Bacon Brothers. Funny how often everything works out perfectly in the end.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
He stole Edie Sedgwick.
Wrong Sedgwick, but somehow, I think you knew this.
you be betty
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 24, 2006 at 04:37 PM UTC #
Originally posted by walkonby:
they were all on drugs and pretending to be pretty and important (except the genius), so who cares.

warhol is the only one that matters, and he wasn't mad at dylan.
Warhol wouldn't have been Warhol without the others. And especially Edie. But the way I see it, if the friends were that fickle in the first place, it wasn't such a horrible loss. It was just serious below-the-belt bullshit on Dylan's part, and I will never understand the desire to do that to anybody…
boweswana
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 24, 2006 at 04:55 PM UTC #
"I will never understand the desire to do that to anybody…"

Sure you will, just give it time.
El Tee
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 25, 2006 at 05:15 PM UTC #
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by walkonby:
they were all on drugs and pretending to be pretty and important (except the genius), so who cares.

warhol is the only one that matters, and he wasn't mad at dylan.
But the way I see it, if the friends were that fickle in the first place, it wasn't such a horrible loss. It was just serious below-the-belt bullshit on Dylan's part, and I will never understand the desire to do that to anybody…
Exactly. I mean, no one is "stolen". They pretty much move where they want to, unless kidnapped. What is this high school?
you be betty
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Re: dylan likes everything to be old and rich, like him August 25, 2006 at 06:17 PM UTC #
Well, she was kind of stolen. Dylan and his manager lied to her to get her away from Andy. So while she did willingly leave, it wasn't really…well, you know. She was kind of brainwashed into it. Whatever.

Did anyone else see that Dylan will be touring with Kings of Leon?
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