DC is NEXT!!!

I don't know, I go the the Safeway in Adams Morgan, and the people are predominately two types: young upwardly mobile white 22-35 year olds, and poor working class Hispanics (albeit with more age diversity than the white people).

When I've been scouting the suburbs, I've noticed more age diversity (There are actually white people over 40 in the DC area!). Also, if you look on the Post website at the stats for suburban schools in places like Rockville, Gaithersburg, Annandale, Springfield, Silver Spring…you'll find more ethnic diversity among the suburban population than in DC schools.

If you want sameness, hang your hat in northwest DC. It just seems like there is more diversity in the DC suburbs.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
I don't wear them, but what about Dockers, boat shoes, gummy bear purses, etc. makes a person a lesser person?

It seems like having a condescending, mocking attitude toward people for what they wear makes a person a lesser person.

Mankie made the assertion that it's a clusterf*** of sameness. If that's the picture he was drawing, I think it's more apropos in reverse. If you don't think you'll see more people dressing the same (which was my point, not what they were actually wearing, but that it's more of a uniform – all the same) in a Safeway in north Arlington than you would in a Safeway in DC (excepting G'town), then I can't argue with you because I just don't know where you been shoppin'.

You'll be in the burbs any minute and won't have to deal with small city folks, anyhow.

Originally posted by Ball Girl:

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
gummy bear purses

what are these and where can I get one?

I guess they're called Jelly totes. First showed up at Nordstrom's a few months back, now they're everywhere, including Target.

Link - image didn't work
$88
Nordstrom Cinched Jelly Tote

Italian chic in sherbet shades. Fashioned with a near-translucent look–all the better to show off sweet 'cinching' at the snap top.

I only just started reading this thread, so I apologize if this is back-tracking or whatever, but I have two comments:

1) Where the hell is keithstg hanging out in NYC? Every time I've been out up there, the bars have been doing the same level of business as I've ever seen up there.

2) Rhett's follow-up has to be the biggest laugh-out-loud moment I've had on this board in a long time.

Originally posted by nkotballs:
Yes, last time I was in NYC, I couldn't find a single bar to go to. They had all shut down, because people had completely stopped going to them. I ended up having to hang out for three nights at a Chuck E. Cheese.

Originally posted by keithstg:

Originally posted by cale:
Does anyone know what someone can do to support a smoking ban in DC? Who do I have to email, who can I give money to, what do I have to sign, etc?

Give the money to your favorite local bar. If NYC is any indication, after a smoking ban goes into effect they will need it.

:confused:

oh, I thought they were edible (the gummy bear bags)…forget it…
Mr. Balls, how do you know about such cutting edge fasions?

As if Doc Martens are oh-so-original fashion in the year 2004. Talk about a conformist uniform item. Actually more like an conformist uniform item circa 1994.

Haha.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Ball Girl:

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
gummy bear purses

what are these and where can I get one?

I guess they're called Jelly totes. First showed up at Nordstrom's a few months back, now they're everywhere, including Target.

Link - image didn't work
$88
Nordstrom Cinched Jelly Tote

Italian chic in sherbet shades. Fashioned with a near-translucent look–all the better to show off sweet 'cinching' at the snap top.

No, it's about lasting 15 years or more. And being comfy for shows. Aren't you just kind of proving that I don't care much about the conformist uniform if it's no longer conformist?

You only go to one show a month, you put less wear on your dogs…

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
As if Doc Martens are oh-so-original fashion in the year 2004. Talk about a conformist uniform item. Actually more like an conformist uniform item circa 1994.

Haha.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Ball Girl:

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
gummy bear purses

what are these and where can I get one?

I guess they're called Jelly totes. First showed up at Nordstrom's a few months back, now they're everywhere, including Target.

Link - image didn't work
$88
Nordstrom Cinched Jelly Tote

Italian chic in sherbet shades. Fashioned with a near-translucent look–all the better to show off sweet 'cinching' at the snap top.

Originally posted by pollard:

Originally posted by Bollocks:
Remind me again what's so cool about the female business suit wearing, polo shirt with collar up, beige pants and boat shoe'd, 1 lawyer for every 6 residents ratoi'd, we think Irelands 4 P's is an authentic Irish bar assuming…DC?

thank you for making my point, that most of the people bringing up "dc is cool or not" issues on this board are the suburbanites, rarely do I see city dwellers on this board talk about how cool life in the city is unless somebody has talked bad about it first, and I for one hate the 4 P's, but we have been through that before

I disagree, it's you DC living elitist who always bring up how cool you all are living in DC, when the reality is that people who are from other cities find DC very starched and conservative….nice, but starched and conservative. Apart from one of the best concert venues in the country..what else does it have that you can call "COOL"?

Originally posted by Bollocks:
what else does it have that you can call "COOL"?

the Capitals…hehehehehehe.

Yes, but I walk all over the city (as well as run 30+ miles a week). You drive. How much wear does it put on shoes to stand in place for a few hours?

What was the point?

I think there is sort of a conforming uniform that urbanites wear, and a separate conforming uniform that suburbanites wear.

If someone is over 25 and still strongly defining people or themselves by their fashion, they probably are living a pretty empty, shallow life anyway.

I've known people who wear dockers, Docs, boat shoes (though know gummy bear purses). Some were good folks, some jerks.

Originally posted by Bags:
No, it's about lasting 15 years or more. And being comfy for shows. Aren't you just kind of proving that I don't care much about the conformist uniform if it's no longer conformist?

You only go to one show a month, you put less wear on your dogs…

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
As if Doc Martens are oh-so-original fashion in the year 2004. Talk about a conformist uniform item. Actually more like an conformist uniform item circa 1994.

Haha.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Ball Girl:

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
gummy bear purses

what are these and where can I get one?

I guess they're called Jelly totes. First showed up at Nordstrom's a few months back, now they're everywhere, including Target.

Link - image didn't work
$88
Nordstrom Cinched Jelly Tote

Italian chic in sherbet shades. Fashioned with a near-translucent look–all the better to show off sweet 'cinching' at the snap top.

Originally posted by Bags:
ou only go to one show a month, you put less wear on your dogs…

Careful…you're talking to a man who runs at least 25 miles a week on average… :)

though I now see that he just sort of said that himself

Isn't the city/suburb argument tired as hell?

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
If someone is over 25 and still strongly defining people or themselves by their fashion, they probably are living a pretty empty, shallow life anyway.

Tou shouldnt be so mean to Mankie.

Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Isn't the city/suburb argument tired as hell?

Yep, one person always brings it up though. Care to guess whom? :roll:

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
If someone is over 25 and still defining people by what they think they know about him/her from an internet bulletin board, they probably are living a pretty empty, shallow life anyway.

I agree with that completely.

I gotta admit, you have a knack for being the one person that just kind of runs this into a dead end, an internet version of namecalling. Even Mankie's pretty virulent on this one, but is far less…I can't think of the perfect word.

I believe that would be Bags. She brought the suburban vs. urban question into the thread.

The thread was originally about a smoking ban, and she made the assertion that people from VA or MD (suburbanites) shouldn't have a say as to whether there should be a smoking ban in DC bars.

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Isn't the city/suburb argument tired as hell?

Yep, one person always brings it up though. Care to guess whom? :roll:

Originally posted by Bags:
As it is, DC residents have little say over what happens in their own city.

How so? (I seriously am curious)

I could see you saying they don't have a say in what goes on in their own *country* but how do they have less say than folks in any other city…and, whose fault would that be?

Yup, I brought up the residency issue in terms of the smoking ban. Only. I think it's a valid piece of the discussion. From my comment, we could've kept talking about the smoking ban alone.

Balls moved it to the commuter tax, which moved it to quality of life, which moved it to VA/MD vs DC and then the who's cooler than whom discussion.

I never said, for instance, Montgomery county was worse for having it, or better, or different. But when it comes to passing laws about the District, I think it should be a district issue. I did not begin to draw comparisons or qualitative distinctions.

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
I believe that would be Bags. She brought the suburban vs. urban question into the thread.

The thread was originally about a smoking ban, and she made the assertion that people from VA or MD (suburbanites) shouldn't have a say as to whether there should be a smoking ban in DC bars.

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Isn't the city/suburb argument tired as hell?

Yep, one person always brings it up though. Care to guess whom? :roll:

Are there no cities in MD and Virginia?

Wasnt Bags point that that it should be decided by DC residents?


Someone else then capitalised on this weak opportunity to make a city vs suburban debate.

Even though our tax base is gathered from DC residents, our city's budget and numerous decisions that affect the budget must be passed by the federal congress.

Another example is the ban against the commuter tax – we are the only jurisdiction which had the federal government step in and disallow us from even considering a policy/tax issue.

Very little self-determination. The real solution really would be to slice off a hunk of DC that is strictly federal land, without residents, and let the rest either become a self-determining state, or part of MD or VA.

Originally posted by Ball Girl:

Originally posted by Bags:
As it is, DC residents have little say over what happens in their own city.

How so? (I seriously am curious)

I could see you saying they don't have a say in what goes on in their own *country* but how do they have less say than folks in any other city…and, whose fault would that be?

I completely agree with you. It is an issue for DC voters to decide. And not MD or VA people. My point was that if there were a commuter tax, I think that should buy suburbanites a vote on the issue.

So the thread went in other directions. Don't they all?

Originally posted by Bags:
Yup, I brought up the residency issue in terms of the smoking ban. Only. I think it's a valid piece of the discussion. From my comment, we could've kept talking about the smoking ban alone.

Balls moved it to the commuter tax, which moved it to quality of life, which moved it to VA/MD vs DC and then the who's cooler than whom discussion.

I never said, for instance, Montgomery county was worse for having it, or better, or different. But when it comes to passing laws about the District, I think it should be a district issue. I did not begin to draw comparisons or qualitative distinctions.

Originally posted by Got Balls?:
I believe that would be Bags. She brought the suburban vs. urban question into the thread.

The thread was originally about a smoking ban, and she made the assertion that people from VA or MD (suburbanites) shouldn't have a say as to whether there should be a smoking ban in DC bars.

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by Ball Girl:
Isn't the city/suburb argument tired as hell?

Yep, one person always brings it up though. Care to guess whom? :roll: