Interesting topic (for a change)

Remember, mankie said all empires must fall, and just as Ricky Gervais said when accepting the Golden Globe…."I come from a small place called England, you know, we used to run the world before you lot"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3430199.stm

Yeah…and I'm reading that book called Fat Land (just started) in which the author observes that the first fad diet came out in England at the height of its imperialism, and now the U.S. has such high obesity and all kinds of fad diets…another similarity. (Strangely enough, though, the author's main point seems to be that poorer Americans have more of a risk of obesity)

They certainly aren't talking about anything new there. Annoyed Americans have been saying this for years.

Originally posted by mankie:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3430199.stm

When are you going to return what you have stolen from others?

I know the US hasn't really helped the Native Americans out at all, but didn't the Britain kick all the natives off of Diego Garcia forcing them into poverty?

Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
When are you going to return what you have stolen from others?

We'll return the sculptures to the Greeks if you return this country to it's rightful owners….deal?

Originally posted by Celeste:
(Strangely enough, though, the author's main point seems to be that poorer Americans have more of a risk of obesity)

That's more due to a lack of education on nutrition don't you think?

Originally posted by mankie:

Originally posted by Celeste:
(Strangely enough, though, the author's main point seems to be that poorer Americans have more of a risk of obesity)

That's more due to a lack of education on nutrition don't you think?

Well, this will be getting off topic, but, there are a few different opinions out there on why this seems to be…

I recently read an article that talked about a lack of quality, fresh produce in inner-city grocery stores…some say also, that crappy, processed food is cheaper. In Nickel and Dimed, that author suggested that many poor people buy fast food because they are living in hotels/motels without kitchens or pots and pans to prepare regular meals…education may be just a very small part of it, especially because the information out there about food and nutrition is so varied, often conflicting and confusing, anyway…

Originally posted by Celeste:

Originally posted by mankie:

Originally posted by Celeste:
(Strangely enough, though, the author's main point seems to be that poorer Americans have more of a risk of obesity)

That's more due to a lack of education on nutrition don't you think?

Well, this will be getting off topic, but, there are a few different opinions out there on why this seems to be…

I recently read an article that talked about a lack of quality, fresh produce in inner-city grocery stores…some say also, that crappy, processed food is cheaper. In Nickel and Dimed, that author suggested that many poor people buy fast food because they are living in hotels/motels without kitchens or pots and pans to prepare regular meals…education may be just a very small part of it, especially because the information out there about food and nutrition is so varied, often conflicting and confusing, anyway…

Those lazy bastards should get off their fat arses and get a job so they can pay their own rent on an apartment and buy their own healthy food, and aren't sponging of the welfare state, or maybe sue the fast food chains because they didn't know it would turn their arses into lard.

Do you like my Rhett impersonation?

Originally posted by mankie:
Those lazy bastards should get off their fat arses and get a job so they can pay their own rent on an apartment and buy their own healthy food, and aren't sponging of the welfare state, or maybe sue the fast food chains because they didn't know it would turn their arses into lard.

Do you like my Rhett impersonation? [/QB]

LOL!!! spot on! (poor rhett :p )

that sounds like a normal makie post to me…and not one without some degree of valid point

About education on nutrition… While education may help, I think most of the problem is due to eating patterns started at a young age. Simply saying eating junk food is bad isn't going to stop someone from eating junk food. Healthier foods need to be introduced into the diet.

yeah…and "junk" food is actually addictive, and many items have ingredients that people don't even understand…or that they wouldn't expect to be in particular foods…"hidden" sugars, fats, etc…

Originally posted by Celeste:

Originally posted by mankie:

Originally posted by Celeste:
(Strangely enough, though, the author's main point seems to be that poorer Americans have more of a risk of obesity)

That's more due to a lack of education on nutrition don't you think?

Well, this will be getting off topic, but, there are a few different opinions out there on why this seems to be…

I recently read an article that talked about a lack of quality, fresh produce in inner-city grocery stores…some say also, that crappy, processed food is cheaper. In Nickel and Dimed, that author suggested that many poor people buy fast food because they are living in hotels/motels without kitchens or pots and pans to prepare regular meals…education may be just a very small part of it, especially because the information out there about food and nutrition is so varied, often conflicting and confusing, anyway…

the bottom line is that proper nutrition is expensive, especially in a society where sustainable, organic agriculture is a boutique industry…and two liters of pepsi are about .99 cents.

that's kind of true…you can buy a loaf of white bread for like a buck, but a loaf of whole grain bread is over three dollars…there ARE creative ways to eat healthy for not alot of dough, but many poor don't may not the time or resources to figure all that out, plus, the pleasure and buzz from sugary and fatty foods probably is a comfort in otherwise difficult lives…

This reminds me of John Cleese as Robin Hood in TIME BANDITS, "The poor are going to be absolutely pleased."

and can someone please tell me why a company would feel the need to put high fructose corn syrup in tomato soup???? (just realized this upon looking at what was supposed to be my lunch)

"high fructose corn syrup"

It's in a lot of processed foods. It is cheap and sweet. Can help consistency too.

yeah…it was a rhetorical question :)

just makes me want to have every damn thing be home-made…

Originally posted by mark e smith:
"high fructose corn syrup"
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It's in a lot of processed foods. It is cheap and sweet. Can help consistency too.

Can help obesity too.