Originally posted by le sonick:Just like your money and your army, nobody takes you Canadians seriously.
no one ever asked me, i can tell you that.
smoking ban starts in less than a month!
Mary J.Bilge
Princess Patricia's Light Infantry….???
The name alone must strike fear in the heart of Islamo-fascists throughout the Hindu Kush.
The name alone must strike fear in the heart of Islamo-fascists throughout the Hindu Kush.
BOUT DAMN TIME! Kill yourself if you want. Go for it, makes more room on the planet for me. Just don't take me with you. Actually I look at it as nature's way of weeding out the stupid people.
Originally posted by RatBastard:Except some people figured out a loophole by only smoking when they drink at bars!
BOUT DAMN TIME! Kill yourself if you want. Go for it, makes more room on the planet for me. Just don't take me with you. Actually I look at it as nature's way of weeding out the stupid people.
Originally posted by vansmack:ok, i'll rephrase that.
Originally posted by le sonick:Just like your money and your army, nobody takes you Canadians seriously.
no one ever asked me, i can tell you that.
was there a vote on this smoking ban in DC?
this was on the ballot?
It's like I've always said…
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Princess Patricia's Light Infantry….???
The name alone must strike fear in the heart of Islamo-fascists throughout the Hindu Kush.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
When people are too stupid to figure out what is the right proper thing to do for their own good and for the good of others, it's quite fine for the government to intervene. That is one of the functions of government, to make laws that work to create a better world.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:you don't have to be a smoker to oppose the ban. . .if you like having the ability to choose, as an adult, what to do without the government telling you what you can and can't do.
Smoke people opposed to the ban.
for example, i think it's stupid that there are vegetarians. . .do i think government should outlaw vegetarianism? no. . while it's a stupid and poorly thought out choice, you are free to make that choice, just as i am allowed to eat meat, lots and lots of meat.
Originally posted by vansmack:as sonick points out, where did the people make this decision? far as i can tell, it a bunch of anti-smoking nuts who are doing all they can not for the health of people, but simply to punish tobacco companies. anyway, for the people to have spoken, business should make the decision- if the people want this change, then business should make that decision, for the sake of profits. since they are still making money from tobacco smokers. . . . . .the people apparently haven't spoken loud enough.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:I believe the people have spoken, determined smoking has begun to interfere with or endanger another's person, and thus the ban meets…wait for it…libertarian muster.
you don't have to be a smoker to oppose the ban. . .if you like having the ability to choose, as an adult, what to do without the government telling you what you can and can't do.
Since you won't tax them more to penalize them, we are left with no alternative.
How do you explain laws regulating rape, murder, robbery, etc. or do you think that business or common people should regulate those things, not government?
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
Our current administration is exactly the opposite of what you're saying.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:i think numbers 6, 7, 8 and 10 cover those.
How do you explain laws regulating rape, murder, robbery, etc. or do you think that business or common people should regulate those things, not government?
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
1. I am the Lord thy God and thou shalt not have other gods besides me.
2. Thou shalt not make for thyself any graven image.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
4. Remember the Lord's Day to keep it holy.
5. Honor thy Father and Mother.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
10. Thou shalt not covet.
Originally posted by econo:well, as with everything, it depends on the context. our current administration is in support of the above if it deals, generally, with education and overall economics. as for social issues, well, then. . yeah, you're right, and i am well aware of it. its like friedman's monetary policy- cutting taxes is the easy part. . .
Our current administration is exactly the opposite of what you're saying.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:rape??? are you serious.
How do you explain laws regulating rape, murder, robbery, etc. or do you think that business or common people should regulate those things, not government?
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
well, put it this way, rape is forceable sex. meaning someone who wants no part in the sex, is forced to take part in it.
consentual sex, however, is legal.
smoking can be thought of the same way. when you go to a place that allows smoking, you are consenting to secondhand smoke.
if the government forced people to smoke in your house, or car then you would have an issue, but they are NOT. you are choosing to go to places that allow smoking, thus, consenting to being around it.
you cannot ever and will not ever convince me that its the popular decision to have no smoking everywhere when its been the choice of business owners since the dawn of time and most of them choose to allow smoking, and people still go to bars last time i checked.
you know what i dont like? i dont like children at baseball games. they are dirty, have lots of germs and you cant swear nearby them, but i choose to go to baseball games and therefore knowingly subject myself to germ ridden kids
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:and as far as robbery goes….wouldnt robbery be taking something of someone elses without their permission.
How do you explain laws regulating rape, murder, robbery, etc. or do you think that business or common people should regulate those things, not government?
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
the government is not here to regulate behavior. if you think someone is doing something rude, blame the parents. as for doing something stupid- just because its stupid doesn't make it illegal or require the government to step in and control people's lives.
again, this involves permission.
giving things away in the paper is the same thing as robbery only both parties have consented to the act.
Wouldn't the more apt comparison be that smokers are putting something in the air that non-smokers haven't consented to breathing?
Originally posted by le sonick:
rape??? are you serious.
well, put it this way, rape is forceable sex. meaning someone who wants no part in the sex, is forced to take part in it.
consentual sex, however, is legal.
smoking can be thought of the same way. when you go to a place that allows smoking, you are consenting to secondhand smoke.
if the government forced people to smoke in your house, or car then you would have an issue, but they are NOT. you are choosing to go to places that allow smoking, thus, consenting to being around it.
you cannot ever and will not ever convince me that its the popular decision to have no smoking everywhere when its been the choice of business owners since the dawn of time and most of them choose to allow smoking, and people still go to bars last time i checked.
you know what i dont like? i dont like children at baseball games. they are dirty, have lots of germs and you cant swear nearby them, but i choose to go to baseball games and therefore knowingly subject myself to germ ridden kids
I'm glad you agree. Every time I go someplace that allows smoking, I feel like my lungs are being raped.
That is why I'm glad my government is enacting anti-smoking laws to protect my lungs, just like they have anti-rape laws to protect my ass.
well, put it this way, rape is forceable sex. meaning someone who wants no part in the sex, is forced to take part in it.
consentual sex, however, is legal.
smoking can be thought of the same way.
That is why I'm glad my government is enacting anti-smoking laws to protect my lungs, just like they have anti-rape laws to protect my ass.
Originally posted by le sonick:rape??? are you serious.
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well, put it this way, rape is forceable sex. meaning someone who wants no part in the sex, is forced to take part in it.
consentual sex, however, is legal.
smoking can be thought of the same way.
This is old news, but apparently not everyone is aware of it.
Case for prohibiting smoking in publc places=closed.
Case for prohibiting smoking in publc places=closed.
Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:so, why do you frequent places that allow smoking? you made the choice to go and have given your consent by going to that place. you can choose not to go.
I'm glad you agree. Every time I go someplace that allows smoking, I feel like my lungs are being raped.
That is why I'm glad my government is enacting anti-smoking laws to protect my lungs, just like they have anti-rape laws to protect my ass.