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PigIron
Joined: November 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 05:54 AM UTC #
Originally posted by PigIron:
Originally posted by vansmack:
For clarification sake, is there a difference in your eyes between rap and hip hop?
Rap - Generic bling-bling thug music that needs image to sell. Not to say its horrible, some may be good in one's opinion, but very cookie-cutter.
Hip hop - Genre in which artists contribute thoughtful lyrics to beats.

I don't know how old the poster is but older stuff: Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Eric B. and Rakim, Gang Starr, NWA, Run DMC, Big Daddy Kane, Ice-T. PE and Tribe you cannot go wrong with any record. Most of these have best of records by now.

Newer stuff: Im getting older so I'm losing touch, but Roots, Common, Outkast and Jurassic 5 are all great. Also, newer Mos Def and Talib is pretty damn good!
chaz
Joined: December 09, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 01:22 PM UTC #
I'd reccommend anything by:

MC Hammer
NKOTB (New Kids on the Block)
Kriss Kross

Those should get you started.
thirsty moore
Joined: January 11, 2000 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 6131
Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 01:33 PM UTC #
Charles de Gaulle

Thank you for your recommendations. I will take note of them.
chaz
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 01:43 PM UTC #
Originally posted by econo:
Charles de Gaulle

I like it!
ratioci nation
Joined: November 22, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 01:59 PM UTC #
this thread would never have been here in the good old days, I am very disappointed in you econo, very, cant we talk about coldplay
thirsty moore
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 02:04 PM UTC #
What can I say. I'm a downwardly mobile white guy that needs to develop other tastes.
sonickteam2
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 02:08 PM UTC #
get anything by Latryx, Lateef, Quannum, Lyrics born, blackalicious or gift of gab.

its much more creative and "today" than anything put out in the 90s!
ratioci nation
Joined: November 22, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 02:10 PM UTC #
Originally posted by econo:
What can I say. I'm a downwardly mobile white guy that needs to develop other tastes.
well then just buy everything by 3rd Bass
thirsty moore
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 02:11 PM UTC #
Nice.
BookerT
Joined: October 30, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 03:00 PM UTC #
if you like "illmatic," you'd probably dig raekwon's "only built 4 cuban linx." that's like the only rap album i ever listen to. nas is on one of the songs on there. lots of ghostface. "criminology" from this album ranks behind only "da mystery of chessboxin'" as my favorite rap song.
HoyaSaxa03
Joined: March 22, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 7053
Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 03:15 PM UTC #
Originally posted by BookerT:
if you like "illmatic," you'd probably dig raekwon's "only built 4 cuban linx." that's like the only rap album i ever listen to. nas is on one of the songs on there. lots of ghostface. "criminology" from this album ranks behind only "da mystery of chessboxin'" as my favorite rap song.
ah, good call … i haven't put that album on in a while, will have to do that today …
shoot ur shot
Joined: July 02, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 300
Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 06:03 PM UTC #
there still seems to be some clarification needed in regards to what separates rap from hip hop. It's simple. Rap=the music. Hip hop=the whole street culture of the music. That is what is meant by the "four elements of hip hop" - dj'ing/beatmaking (the music), mc'ing (the speech), breaking (the dance) and writing/graffiti art (the art). Rap and Hip Hop are not distinguished by lyrical content. Rap is everything from Nelly and Ludacris to Percee P amd Lord Finesse. There's good rap and there's bad rap just like with any other genre of music.

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jd930
Joined: May 03, 2005 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 185
Re: Hip Hop June 30, 2005 at 06:56 PM UTC #
check out the Decipher show on WPFW 89.3, M-F 11PM
chaz
Joined: December 09, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop July 01, 2005 at 01:02 AM UTC #
Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
there still seems to be some clarification needed in regards to what separates rap from hip hop. It's simple. Rap=the music. Hip hop=the whole street culture of the music. That is what is meant by the "four elements of hip hop" - dj'ing/beatmaking (the music), mc'ing (the speech), breaking (the dance) and writing/graffiti art (the art). Rap and Hip Hop are not distinguished by lyrical content. Rap is everything from Nelly and Ludacris to Percee P amd Lord Finesse. There's good rap and there's bad rap just like with any other genre of music.
Thank you Professor Griff.
thirsty moore
Joined: January 11, 2000 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hip Hop July 02, 2005 at 10:12 PM UTC #
Thanks for the suggestions all. I've learned a lot about Queens Bridge in the past few days.
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