Dylan at AU

ok so we all know that bob dylan is really old, really scraggly, and kind of scary looking. however, he's still pretty damn legendary and i think played a great show last night. i didn't know every single song he played, but it was no matter because it all sounded wonderful. instead of one encore he did two, which was fun.

complaint about Bender, though: mainly just the location of the bathrooms. for real, the lines were so insanely long, but then were all compressed behind more seats and walls that it was almost impossible to move. badtimes.

overall, i thought the crowd was pretty cool - lots of aging hippies, lots of aging hippies with their kids, dads bringing their sons and daughters, random stoners, college kids, and the like. the permeating smell of the incense, however, wasn't so cool. ugh, i hate incense.

I love it when people make fun of the people that still go to 80's shows when they are going to freakin' 60's-70's shows. :roll:

Better yet Guiny, is how so much of the newer music that they listen to is strongly influenced by so much 80s music now.

I almost can't wait for some of them to age about 15-20 years and watch them have to put up with much younger people telling them how washed up they and their music are. Better yet, all the insinuations that they should just stay home and rock in their rocking chairs and not in the rock clubs.

It's attitudes like that that will make them age before their time. :D

I think that one of the few exceptions is Walkie, ironically, one of the youngest people on the board. Cheers to you Walkie! ;)

heh.

90's Punk Decries Punks of Today

BERKELEY, CAâ??Nineties punk Drew Tolbert, 29, expressed scorn Monday for the punks of today, denouncing them as "phony poseurs unworthy of the word 'punk.'"

These kids today have no idea what real punk is," said Tolbert, who called himself "Steve Spew" from 1992 until May 1999…

Originally posted by Jaguär:

I think that one of the few exceptions is Walkie, ironically, one of the youngest people on the board. Cheers to you Walkie! ;)

Thanks, Jag. You know, I just listen to what I like â?? and it hasn't failed me yet…

I love how all the older people are all so bitter, and group everyone else on the board in to one group no matter what the topic is.

That's only happened after so much bashing by the younger people. Or in some cases, some of the older ones who can't break out of the 'getting too old to rock' kind of thinking mode.

Turn around is only fair play.

You rarely ever see on this board older people making fun of younger people and their music, at least on the basis of age or newness. It happens but not much. But you do very often see others tearing apart seasoned rockers or older music.

As a statistian would do, throw Flawd and Mankie out of the picture. They are the extremes of either side of the issue. :p

Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:

Originally posted by Jaguär:

I think that one of the few exceptions is Walkie, ironically, one of the youngest people on the board. Cheers to you Walkie! ;)

Thanks, Jag. You know, I just listen to what I like â?? and it hasn't failed me yet…

Same here. Part of the reason I rarely bother with critics. I tend to only skim to see what's out there, not what they think about it. Once in awhile I find something I really like and it turns out to be something from years ago that slipped past my radar and it's as though it's brand new to me. Generally, it all has to do with my own personal taste and my moods.

in the immortal words of those hardcore Canadian punk rockers Three Days Grace…

"I Hate Everything About You"

and

"You Shit Is Overrated"

Have a nice day :D

Originally posted by Jaguär:


I think that one of the few exceptions is Walkie, ironically, one of the youngest people on the board. Cheers to you Walkie! ;)

What about me? ;)

shut up

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I love it when people make fun of the people that still go to 80's shows when they are going to freakin' 60's-70's shows. :roll:

You go and see crap like Berlin and Flock of seagulls. Its not that its old that I take umbridge with, its that it was crap at the time. It is crap now, and till the day the sun burns up it will always be crap.

I like music from every decade except the 50's, I save that for Rhett. The only people who do not like music from more than one decade are Guiny and Mankie, who only go to shows if the band or its members acheived fame in the 80's.

phew I feel better for getting that off of my chest.

So what's your favorite artists from 1900-1949? and where do you thing the Beatles, Rolling Stones, David Bowie, The Who, etc would be without the influence of artists from the 50s? And I do believe that Bowie got his fame earlier than the 80's…

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
and where do you thing the Beatles, Rolling Stones, David Bowie, The Who, etc would be without the influence of artists from the 50s?

You can like a band without liking their influences.

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
So what's your favorite artists from 1900-1949?

I meant the Rock and Roll era. Which probably really started in the 50s. The 50s thing was just a nod to Rhett and his liking of music from a past decade, but not the 80s.

Oh yea and what Pollard said.

Has anyone else seen the Victoria Secret commercial featuring Bob Dylan? It is so weird, sad, and funny.

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
So what's your favorite artists from 1900-1949?

I meant the Rock and Roll era. Which probably really started in the 50s. The 50s thing was just a nod to Rhett and his liking of music from a past decade, but not the 80s.

Oh yea and what Pollard said.

I totally admit to not liking the Beach Boys but enjoy many of the bands influenced by them. And tis fine if you were just taking a shot at Rhett about 50's music. But to disregard an entire decade of the most influential music for future generations seems a bit closed minded. I would suspect that Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Elvis, Sam Cooke, Larry Williams, Bill Haley, Carl Perkins, The Isley Brothers, Otis Redding, Eddie Cochran, just to mention a few will have longer lasting impact then say Soft Cell, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Myracle Brah, Elbow, Adam Green, etc.

I'm listening to a neat compliation called "The American Roots of the British Invasion", which has the orginial American artists recordings of songs later recorded by British Invasion artists.

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I love it when people make fun of the people that still go to 80's shows when they are going to freakin' 60's-70's shows. :roll:

You go and see crap like Berlin and Flock of seagulls. Its not that its old that I take umbridge with, its that it was crap at the time. I like music from every decade except the 50's, I save that for Rhett. The only people who do not like music from more than one decade are Guiny and Mankie, who only go to shows if the band or its members acheived fame in the 80's.

Was BDB from the 80's? What about T-Rex? How about early Beatles? Marianne Faithfull? Solas? Oasis? B&S? (to name just a few)

The 80's were the best decade for music…not the only one.

As for some of the reunion tours, I will agree that, for the most part, many reunion bands coming out were shit the first time round. Duran Duran were nothing more than the N'Sync of their time and Flock of Seagulls would never have sold a record without the silly haircut. Many others however still sound much better than the 15 minute kids of today.

BTW Did anyone see the article on this very issue that was on the front page of USA Today last week. It was about college students who, thanks to the internet, have realized that bands from the past are much better than the shit of today, and these bands (Queen, Led Zepp, Pink Floyd) are finding increases in sales, and college students are now rifling through their parents album collections for other treasures…..I'm telling you, todays music cannot hold a candle to bands from the past.

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:

I would suspect that Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Elvis, Sam Cooke, , Bill Haley, The Isley Brothers, Otis Redding, Eddie Cochran, just to mention a few will have longer lasting impact then say Soft Cell, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Elbow, Adam Green, etc.
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You will be pleased to note that somewhere in the UK, I have a collection of 7 inch vinyl that includes all of whats left of the first list.

I have all of what is left on the second list here on CD.


Its not very forward thinking just sucking up back-catologues. Plus it means you would never get to see a good show, like the position Mankie is in.

Mike Peters brought his vintage music and fighting spirit to Jaxx on Saturday. In his prime, Peters, the founding frontman of '80s British rant-rockers the Alarm, put antiwar and anti-poverty tirades over a melody and beat that any suburbanite could easily absorb. These days, he's railing about ageism in pop music.

"There's a force operating against our generation!" Peters, now 45, told the crowd made up mainly of folks of a similar age, while introducing a recently recorded track, "45 RPM." Because the music industry showed no interest in the reconstituted Alarm, Peters released that song under the group name the Poppyfields, and even filmed a video for "45 RPM" with handsome lads posing as the band. The tactic worked, in the short term. The garage-rock tune got rave reviews. But when Peters confessed that the geezerly Alarm was behind the music, a backlash ensued. A critic for the Guardian put the Alarm's return on a list of the 10 worst reunions in rock history and warned fans to look out for "sweaty anthems about guns and storms."



But the folks who came to Jaxx wanted an evening of sweaty anthems. And the Alarm – now consisting of Peters and '80s vets guitarist James Stevenson (Generation X), bassist Craig Adams (the Mission) and drummer Steve Grantley (Stiff Little Fingers) – complied with vigor.

Among the period pieces was "Absolute Reality," which took on the president of the United States (that would mean Ronald Reagan). And "Strength," which sounds even more like U2 than it did two decades ago, had him begging, "Give me someone to live for!" The crowd supplied whoa-oh-oh-ohs in all the right places. As they left the club, fans were invited to have Peters record their favorite Alarm rant with a personal dedication for $150.