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Roll Call:Wilco
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:constitution ave. is closed until 9, as are all streets crossing constitution from 23rd to the u.s. capitol.
Wilco doesn't go on until 10 pm. Is there really going to be a traffic problem going INTO DC at that hour? Am I missing something?
I caught the Sunday night show & have mixed feelings.
Most new songs were good - some were even great: "At least that's what you said" was Crazy Horsesque.
But I walked away unsatisfied knowing just how good the show could have been. Like the review above, both AM & Summer Teeth were ignored (1 song from ST - after 2 hours). I appreciate the artistic growth & experimental bent, but not at the expense of ignoring a significant portion of their most likable catalog. Watching them was like seeing the evil alt-country Radiohead twin. I even like RH, but one's enough thanks.
And it's not like this tour is an abberation. I've seen them 4 times & each was like an exercise in contempt for all the older material.
It makes you appreciate a band and tour like the recent Pixies shows even more - all the best songs, all the time.
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If you like A.M. check out Frogholler coming soon to Iota (Sat July 10). I doubt you'll see a better band in this genre this year. I caught them last eve in one of the strangest shows I've ever seen. It was at a coffeehouse (byob). No promotion. Just a stop over on the way to St Louis & Twangfest. More band members were on stage than actual attendees. Still, they put on one of my fav shows of the year. So much talent, & so likable.
other reviews:
"……..their excellent new work Railings, simply the best band I've heard in years. Great songwriting, they are a deliriously entertaining live act, that truly create their own genre." - Andrew Aber The Village Voice
"If country music is about trying to lead an ordinary life in America's small towns and rural counties, it makes sense that alternative-country should be music about trying to lead a bohemian life in the same circumstances. Few acts pursue this latter strategy with as much devotion or with as much success as Frog Holler, a sextet from the area around Kutztown, Pa. …….. It reminds us that Frog Holler is one of our most underrated alt-country acts." - Geoffrey Himes The Washington Post
Frog Holler is fond of loud drums and Neil Young-worthy guitar solos. Its notoriously intense live show would fit right in at a Texas honky-tonk, a West Virginia hoedown, or at a noisy Philly club like the North Star." - Amy Phillips The Philadelphia Inquirer
Most new songs were good - some were even great: "At least that's what you said" was Crazy Horsesque.
But I walked away unsatisfied knowing just how good the show could have been. Like the review above, both AM & Summer Teeth were ignored (1 song from ST - after 2 hours). I appreciate the artistic growth & experimental bent, but not at the expense of ignoring a significant portion of their most likable catalog. Watching them was like seeing the evil alt-country Radiohead twin. I even like RH, but one's enough thanks.
And it's not like this tour is an abberation. I've seen them 4 times & each was like an exercise in contempt for all the older material.
It makes you appreciate a band and tour like the recent Pixies shows even more - all the best songs, all the time.
*********************
If you like A.M. check out Frogholler coming soon to Iota (Sat July 10). I doubt you'll see a better band in this genre this year. I caught them last eve in one of the strangest shows I've ever seen. It was at a coffeehouse (byob). No promotion. Just a stop over on the way to St Louis & Twangfest. More band members were on stage than actual attendees. Still, they put on one of my fav shows of the year. So much talent, & so likable.
other reviews:
"……..their excellent new work Railings, simply the best band I've heard in years. Great songwriting, they are a deliriously entertaining live act, that truly create their own genre." - Andrew Aber The Village Voice
"If country music is about trying to lead an ordinary life in America's small towns and rural counties, it makes sense that alternative-country should be music about trying to lead a bohemian life in the same circumstances. Few acts pursue this latter strategy with as much devotion or with as much success as Frog Holler, a sextet from the area around Kutztown, Pa. …….. It reminds us that Frog Holler is one of our most underrated alt-country acts." - Geoffrey Himes The Washington Post
Frog Holler is fond of loud drums and Neil Young-worthy guitar solos. Its notoriously intense live show would fit right in at a Texas honky-tonk, a West Virginia hoedown, or at a noisy Philly club like the North Star." - Amy Phillips The Philadelphia Inquirer
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:We want to make sure we get there so we can get a better spot than you :) JK Rhett. Anyway, has anyone learned anymore about the availability of the Heads of State concert poster. I assume it will be for sale at the show. I'd definitely like to get my mits on one.
Wilco doesn't go on until 10 pm. Is there really going to be a traffic problem going INTO DC at that hour? Am I missing something?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:there is ALWAYS traffic going into dc. welcome to suburban life. well, on 66 at least, 395 isn't nearly as bad
Wilco doesn't go on until 10 pm. Is there really going to be a traffic problem going INTO DC at that hour? Am I missing something?
I've seen Frog Holler, and can attest, too, that they put on a fun show.
Might go seem them at Iota again. It's the same night that Old 97's are playing live on Penn (in the day) so would make a nice two shows in a day outting.
Might go seem them at Iota again. It's the same night that Old 97's are playing live on Penn (in the day) so would make a nice two shows in a day outting.
Originally posted by grotty:
I caught the Sunday night show & have mixed feelings.
Most new songs were good - some were even great: "At least that's what you said" was Crazy Horsesque.
But I walked away unsatisfied knowing just how good the show could have been. Like the review above, both AM & Summer Teeth were ignored (1 song from ST - after 2 hours). I appreciate the artistic growth & experimental bent, but not at the expense of ignoring a significant portion of their most likable catalog. Watching them was like seeing the evil alt-country Radiohead twin. I even like RH, but one's enough thanks.
And it's not like this tour is an abberation. I've seen them 4 times & each was like an exercise in contempt for all the older material.
It makes you appreciate a band and tour like the recent Pixies shows even more - all the best songs, all the time.
*********************
If you like A.M. check out Frogholler coming soon to Iota (Sat July 10). I doubt you'll see a better band in this genre this year. I caught them last eve in one of the strangest shows I've ever seen. It was at a coffeehouse (byob). No promotion. Just a stop over on the way to St Louis & Twangfest. More band members were on stage than actual attendees. Still, they put on one of my fav shows of the year. So much talent, & so likable.
other reviews:
"……..their excellent new work Railings, simply the best band I've heard in years. Great songwriting, they are a deliriously entertaining live act, that truly create their own genre." - Andrew Aber The Village Voice
"If country music is about trying to lead an ordinary life in America's small towns and rural counties, it makes sense that alternative-country should be music about trying to lead a bohemian life in the same circumstances. Few acts pursue this latter strategy with as much devotion or with as much success as Frog Holler, a sextet from the area around Kutztown, Pa. …….. It reminds us that Frog Holler is one of our most underrated alt-country acts." - Geoffrey Himes The Washington Post
Frog Holler is fond of loud drums and Neil Young-worthy guitar solos. Its notoriously intense live show would fit right in at a Texas honky-tonk, a West Virginia hoedown, or at a noisy Philly club like the North Star." - Amy Phillips The Philadelphia Inquirer
Originally posted by Mongo:I assume it will be available at the show. It will likely be available on the Heads of State site at some point also, but those guys are always a little slow in updating their site.
Anyway, has anyone learned anymore about the availability of the Heads of State concert poster. I assume it will be for sale at the show. I'd definitely like to get my mits on one.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:Definitely go Rhett - I know you saw them a while ago. My opinion is that they have improved SO much. Maybe not as performing musicians, but Railings is much better than the previous 3 records. Better songs = better shows. A mantra Wilco should heed.
I've seen Frog Holler, and can attest, too, that they put on a fun show.
Might go seem them at Iota again. It's the same night that Old 97's are playing live on Penn (in the day) so would make a nice two shows in a day outting.
Originally posted by Bollocks:Actually, bicyclists are allowed on the Whitehurst. You'd just have to be somewhat, um, suicidal to try it. (Just the same as it's been found bicyclists are allowed in the tunnels under traffic circles– like Scott and Thomas. you'll notice the no bikes signs have disappeared.)
Better check they allow bicycles on the Whitehurst Freeway before taking that route.
Bikes are allowed on every road in DC except for roads with posted "motorized vehicles only" signs– as in 295 and 395.
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:YES!!
Originally posted by Bollocks:Actually, bicyclists are allowed on the Whitehurst. You'd just have to be somewhat, um, suicidal to try it. (Just the same as it's been found bicyclists are allowed in the tunnels under traffic circles– like Scott and Thomas. you'll notice the no bikes signs have disappeared.)
Better check they allow bicycles on the Whitehurst Freeway before taking that route.
Bikes are allowed on every road in DC except for roads with posted "motorized vehicles only" signs– as in 295 and 395.
Just one step closer to our ultimate goal…to make DC a "BIKES ONLY" city…hard to imagine el'pres in his cyclecade though.
Didn't he have a bike accident recently?
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Just one step closer to our ultimate goal…to make DC a "BIKES ONLY" city…hard to imagine el'pres in his cyclecade though.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:I had emailed them a while ago, and they said they would be available after the show in a limited number. Did not mention them being at the show, but they could be.
I assume it will be available at the show. It will likely be available on the Heads of State site at some point also, but those guys are always a little slow in updating their site.
Originally posted by thirsty moore:NO! He did not have an accident on his bike….al queada put a stick in his spokes.
Didn't he have a bike accident recently?
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Just one step closer to our ultimate goal…to make DC a "BIKES ONLY" city…hard to imagine el'pres in his cyclecade though.
True enough, they hated his freedom.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
NO! He did not have an accident on his bike….al queada put a stick in his spokes.
Originally posted by pollard:They said it was a run of 1000, which is pretty huge considering 250-300 is standard. So they will definitely be selling them somewhere. The show would seem to make the most sense. A poster of last night's NYC show is available both on the Wilco site and on the site of the designer www.thepatentpending.com
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:I had emailed them a while ago, and they said they would be available after the show in a limited number. Did not mention them being at the show, but they could be.
I assume it will be available at the show. It will likely be available on the Heads of State site at some point also, but those guys are always a little slow in updating their site.
I caught the Sunday night show & have mixed feelings.It's called evolution…all bands, at least the good ones, do it. Don't get me wrong; I enjoy the old albums as much as anyone however I don't listen to those albums, pining for the old days and thinking…"Why doesn't Wilco make 'likeable' music anymore?". Why would any band, unless they're on their last-leg reunion or retirement tour, want to drag their fans down memory lane? One last sing-along for the road…
Most new songs were good - some were even great: "At least that's what you said" was Crazy Horsesque.
But I walked away unsatisfied knowing just how good the show could have been. Like the review above, both AM & Summer Teeth were ignored (1 song from ST - after 2 hours). I appreciate the artistic growth & experimental bent, but not at the expense of ignoring a significant portion of their most likable catalog. Watching them was like seeing the evil alt-country Radiohead twin. I even like RH, but one's enough thanks.
And it's not like this tour is an abberation. I've seen them 4 times & each was like an exercise in contempt for all the older material.
It makes you appreciate a band and tour like the recent Pixies shows even more - all the best songs, all the time.
Like Pablo Honey for Radiohead, A.M. isn't the strongest album. I think YHF and the yet-to-be-released, A Ghost is Born are Wilco's best work to date. I could cherry-pick 20 tracks off Wilco's first few albums (including the long-winded, albeit great, Being There) and be hard-pressed to get anything comparable to the genius of YHF and AGIB. (Side note…I'm listening to Hail to the Thief right now and it certainly gives the Bends/OK Computer some strong competition for best RH album).
…and, as for the Pixies, I saw them recently at Coachella and, though they fulfilled one of my concert fantasies, I'll be surprised if any new material they may (or may not) write/record will push new ground or, for that matter, even be musically relevant. Wilco is NOW…and better than they ever were.
Can't wait to hear the new album live tonight…hope everyone has a great time at the show.
more like devolution (is that a word?) to those of us who like their first two albums the best.
It's easy for you to say they've "evolved" and that it's a good thing, because you prefer the new stuff.
Liz Phair has evolved too.
It's easy for you to say they've "evolved" and that it's a good thing, because you prefer the new stuff.
Liz Phair has evolved too.
Originally posted by joz:
I caught the Sunday night show & have mixed feelings.It's called evolution…all bands, at least the good ones, do it. Don't get me wrong; I enjoy the old albums as much as anyone however I don't listen to those albums, pining for the old days and thinking…"Why doesn't Wilco make 'likeable' music anymore?". Why would any band, unless they're on their last-leg reunion or retirement tour, want to drag their fans down memory lane? One last sing-along for the road…
Most new songs were good - some were even great: "At least that's what you said" was Crazy Horsesque.
But I walked away unsatisfied knowing just how good the show could have been. Like the review above, both AM & Summer Teeth were ignored (1 song from ST - after 2 hours). I appreciate the artistic growth & experimental bent, but not at the expense of ignoring a significant portion of their most likable catalog. Watching them was like seeing the evil alt-country Radiohead twin. I even like RH, but one's enough thanks.
And it's not like this tour is an abberation. I've seen them 4 times & each was like an exercise in contempt for all the older material.
It makes you appreciate a band and tour like the recent Pixies shows even more - all the best songs, all the time.
Like Pablo Honey for Radiohead, A.M. isn't the strongest album. I think YHF and the yet-to-be-released, A Ghost is Born are Wilco's best work to date. I could cherry-pick 20 tracks off Wilco's first few albums (including the long-winded, albeit great, Being There) and be hard-pressed to get anything comparable to the genius of YHF and AGIB. (Side note…I'm listening to Hail to the Thief right now and it certainly gives the Bends/OK Computer some strong competition for best RH album).
…and, as for the Pixies, I saw them recently at Coachella and, though they fulfilled one of my concert fantasies, I'll be surprised if any new material they may (or may not) write/record will push new ground or, for that matter, even be musically relevant. Wilco is NOW…and better than they ever were.
Can't wait to hear the new album live tonight…hope everyone has a great time at the show.
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Originally posted by joz:ya lost me with that one
(Side note…I'm listening to Hail to the Thief right now and it certainly gives the Bends/OK Computer some strong competition for best RH album).
I'm not even talking about musical 'preferences', Rhett…In fact, my favorite Wilco songs are on Being There (I'll take Passenger Side from A.M. and She's a Jar/Via Chicago from ST as runner's up). HOWEVER, I don't think there's any question that, with YHF/AGIB, Wilco is pushing musical boundaries and making better, more cohesive albums than they were 5 or 6 years ago. I think that a year or two from now, Wilco fans will love the newer songs as much as the early stuff. In hindsight, can anyone deny that Sgt. Pepper's was lightyears ahead of Meet the Beatles?? I'm sure there were those who, at the time, looked at Meet the Beatles the same as those of you who think AM is Wilco's magnum opus.