violence by the club AGAIN

Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
[QB] I don't know why everyone is ganging up against me? All I really want is to hold hands around this sunshiny globe of happiness, sharing and caring with all peoples no matter their color, creed or religion.
With the comment you made, you're more interested in starting flame war than solving. Have you forgot about Dimebag Darrell getting killed in an Ohio Nightclub in Dec. 2004? Have you forgot about a man being stabbed to death at a Corrosion of Conformity concert in Tampa, FL. almost 2 years? My point is that violence can happen anywhere. Whether it's inside or outside the club; whether it's in the hood or the suburbs. Whether overseas or in our own backyard, violence doesn't discriminate!
Originally posted by RonniStar:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
[QB] I don't know why everyone is ganging up against me? All I really want is to hold hands around this sunshiny globe of happiness, sharing and caring with all peoples no matter their color, creed or religion.
With the comment you made, you're more interested in starting flame war than solving. Have you forgot about Dimebag Darrell getting killed in an Ohio Nightclub in Dec. 2004? Have you forgot about a man being stabbed to death at a Corrosion of Conformity concert in Tampa, FL. almost 2 years? My point is that violence can happen anywhere. Whether it's inside or outside the club; whether it's in the hood or the suburbs. Whether overseas or in our own backyard, violence doesn't discriminate!
Yeah, basically. But Grand Wizard Dupek doesn't quite get that. Let's just blame the black folk & move along . . . .
:roll:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Is it okay to hate if you have been a victim?
i think a better question is "is hating the best thing to do?" (or even the only thing to do), to which i believe the answer is no. did the perp get that person once, or for the rest of their life? how long should the victimization go on? i realize it's easy for me to engage in arm-chair psychology ("get some help") having never been victimized myself…
So is this like a female pack of droogies or what?
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Is it okay to hate if you have been a victim?
i think a better question is "is hating the best thing to do?" (or even the only thing to do), to which i believe the answer is no. did the perp get that person once, or for the rest of their life? how long should the victimization go on? i realize it's easy for me to engage in arm-chair psychology ("get some help") having never been victimized myself…
canadians…
Last night my friend and I walked from the club down Vermont Ave. to U St and then on to Coppi's at 14th & U and then we walked back the same way later on. Nobody mugged us or even looked threatening. Nor did we observe any raging packs of black girls roaming the streets.
Originally posted by twangirl:
Last night my friend and I walked from the club down Vermont Ave. to U St and then on to Coppi's at 14th & U and then we walked back the same way later on. Nobody mugged us or even looked threatening. Nor did we observe any raging packs of black girls roaming the streets.
i've even heard that people live in this area and walk around it every day. the horrors, i can't imagine how they survive.
a young man was killed in Nissan's parking lot either last year or the year before. So it happens everywhere. I don't feel scared when I leave the club and it's not going to stop me from attending shows. But I feel bad for the bouncer who got spit on because that is the lowest form of disrespect and it's just plain disgusting.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Grand Wizard Dupek[…]blame the black folk
Damn, but some of these Wizards have grand ta-tas!
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I still think many, if not most, regular maroons on this bboard are either living in the past…or are indeed truly stupid(and not just pretending).

I am not a racist at all, or no more or less than anyone else on this bboard. Maroons not included.

I DO like the topic of race & the politics of it, though, as it's the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Which also seems to me to be an invisible gorilla to many on this bboard.

Maybe a better anology is: In Soviet times it was forbidden for ordinary, run-of-the-mill Russians to listen to The Voice Of America on their shortwave radios…deemed by the state to be dangerous for the proletariat's ears. But what were the dissidents doing anyway? And what happened to the Soviet Union later as a result???

That's right, if you tell someone that something is forbidden then it becomes a secret desire. You're correct in saying I get a payoff from the reactions of dyed in the wool apparatchiks like yourself. If this was Soviet Russia, no doubt you would have already turned me into the NKVD, who would readilly ship both our asses to a Siberian uranium mine. Me, for behaviors contrary to the revolution…and you, well you can't be trusted by comrade Stalin anymore, for being a suspicious motherfucker who turns people in. Thanks a lot.

I say: Fuck the status quo! I say: Why don't you go back to the sixties where you all belong?!?

Pick up some groovy signs and march in the streets for gorbal harmony or freedom for the oppressed Afhgan freedom fighters, or something..? Stick it to the man! Anything. It suits you, grandly.
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:

I DO like the topic of race &amp; the politics of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r06ft8xMqRM
I'd also submit that the studiously outre and "noncomformist", the artistic and "creative people" who pride themselves on "marching to a different drum", in fact march in slavish lockstep politically, socially, and philosophically.

That's evidenced here all the time.
Dupek, the Henry David Thoreau of our time.
indeed, and like thoreau his ideas are very current - for the mid-19th century. and nice work comparing yourself to anti-soviet dissidents, very apt comparison :roll: i posit that prisoners of conscience in Siberia would have resented it immensely.

Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I say: Fuck the status quo! I say: Why don't you go back to the sixties where you all belong?!?
will do, as soon as (a) you figure out the physics of time travel, and (b) do the same yourself except set your dial to the 1860's. you'll be free to pet your invisible gorilla all you want.
What is I drove thru downtown DC blaring a racist music CD in my convertable…not as a gesture of racism, but just because I bought the cd and wanted to hear what all the brouhaha was all about -to understand?

And it's off to the mines with you…you overly inquisitive intellectual, you!
Why do you all take his bait….Dupek I'm guessing, is white. Wether he's racist or not is neither here nor there. Regardless, what's the big deal?…if you don't like racism then don't be racist.

It just pisses me off that white racists are censored and portrayed as some kind of outlaw yet it's socially acceptable to be black and racist, almost to the point of encouraged. If you don't think so just tune in to any black oriented radio or tv station and listen to the hate broadcast over our airwaves in the form off that disgusting rap and/or hip-hop music.

I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
What is I drove thru downtown DC blaring a racist music CD in my convertable..
Dupek, are you a fan of Prussian Blue?
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Why do you all take his bait….Dupek I'm guessing, is white. Wether he's racist or not is neither here nor there. Regardless, what's the big deal?…if you don't like racism then don't be racist.

It just pisses me off that white racists are censored and portrayed as some kind of outlaw yet it's socially acceptable to be black and racist, almost to the point of encouraged. If you don't think so just tune in to any black oriented radio or tv station and listen to the hate broadcast over our airwaves in the form off that disgusting rap and/or hip-hop music.

I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.
I think the distinction is that for the most part your so-called "black racist" have no power to have their hatred translate into detrimental consequences for their targets, where as the institutionalized racism practiced by "white racists", or virtually any other communities where stereotyping, isolation from others (asian, hispanic, semitic, etc.) has the organizational power to do real damage.

There could be an argument for the self-inflicted harm all racist experience from their limited world view, but to play the devils advocate, black racist are far more "moronic" than virtually all others because their ability to affect the changes they rage for are so limited and their mode of protest so self-destructive that it's extremely pathetic. So while for the casual foreign observer the hyprocrisy of giving "black racist" a pass is troubling, it's not really a pass it's just so incosequential that it's not worth the time it would take to deplore it. Is Dupek a racist, who knows? A provocateur, certainly. I find most of his comments slightly amusing because if he is a racist he sure is wasting a lot time on this board when he could be plotting how to eradicate the impure among us so it's kind of a relief. Grand wizard he'll never be, though most of them were idiots too. No offense intended.
So you are agreeing that it's okay to be black and racist but not white and racist…hmmmmmm, interesting.
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Dupek, are you a fan of Prussian Blue?
The smilie t-shirts are cute! Plus the Olsen twins sandwich factor is a plus.
Originally posted by bnyced0:
I think the distinction is that for the most part your so-called "black racist" have no power to have their hatred translate into detrimental consequences for their targets.
You are clearly a "Hot House" type of person…insulated from reality.

I regularly experience black on white racism at my job.