ticket inflation + ticketmaster

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Where does a 15 year old get all this money?

That's not much money – hello, a couple of shows? And she expressly noted that the $200 U2 ticket is still being felt by her pocketbook. I had a job when I was 15, and very lucky to have virtually no expenses. So, what does a 15 year old with some cash do? Buy and see music, of course (at least the cool ones do…)!

Originally posted by you be betty:
how do some of you guys avoid using ticketmaster?

dont go to Ticketmaster shows. doesnt get any simpler than that!

you love boycotting stuff

yeah ;)

well, you can either boycott the stuff you think is wrong or bad, or complain about it.

most people dont like to boycott things.

i dont like to complain. (yes, except on the message board, this is my place to vent!)

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
most people dont like to boycott things.

That's because it seems that most people are sheeple.

That's because it seems that most people are sheeple. [/QB]

In some cases, sure. But in most cases, people don't like to boycott because they actually enjoy or need the product they are being asked to boycott.

For example, I boycott lots of crap. Boycotting Nike for example, because of whatever sweatshop reason, is easy. In my opinion, Nike sucks anyway. There is hardly any sacrifice there for me. Every once in awhile I'm in a store and they only have Nike crap. Minor inconvenience. Go to another store.

Boycotting TM however is difficult. I can't think of a corporation I loathe more. But if TM is the only reasonable outlet for whatever event I want to go to (I can't mush up to Montreal and buy at the ticket window for hockey tickets, for example) I'm screwed. I can boycott TM, but I end up being pissed when the event rolls around. And in the end, I've accomplished little - TM doesn't even know who I am.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Where does a 15 year old get all this money?

Originally posted by you be betty:
oh dear, i know.
last april i payed close to $200 to see u2, and that was a cheap ticket, and i'm still broke from the occasion…

i guess what i forgot to convey in my original post was being pissed at how ticketmaster somehow took a $31 ticket up to $45. because, y'know, it's just that expensive to "handle" my ticket, and "process" my order, and all.


and :EDIT: what i have still meant to say is that…how can they get away with that? i know it's slightly hypocritical that i am still paying for it, but…ticketmaster…how??

i actually worked, for a whole year. $15 a week. almost every cent of it went to that show.

oops. i didn't mean to repost. i meant to add on to above, that…
i, unfortunately, am not a spoiled little rich kid. i might just be the only kid in bethesda without a cell phone and credit card. but i get $12 a week from my parents–covering everything. when i want to go to shows, i'll end up staying in the house isolated + not going out so i can pay for my ticket. but usually it is worth my while. nobody will really hire me so much since i'm under 16 so i can't do a whole lot other than tutoring, which is my $15 a week. which ended. so i am broke…yet again.

Originally posted by you be betty:
nobody will really hire me so much since i'm under 16 so i can't do a whole lot other than tutoring, which is my $15 a week. which ended. so i am broke…yet again.

Go cut some lawns. Tax free and you'll make a lot more than $15/week. I'm sure Rhett needs his lawn cut.

Babysit, wash you neighbor's car, pull weeds, rake leaves, mow lawns…just a few ideas. All things I used to do when I was a kid.

Babysitting is easy…we usually give $8/an hour or so.

I'm being serious when I say that if one of the neighborhood kids just knocked on my door and asked if I needed any work done I'd probably put them to work for the day. Why don't you try it?

Good for you! Hope you enjoyed the show.

Originally posted by you be betty:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Where does a 15 year old get all this money?

Originally posted by you be betty:
oh dear, i know.
last april i payed close to $200 to see u2, and that was a cheap ticket, and i'm still broke from the occasion…

i guess what i forgot to convey in my original post was being pissed at how ticketmaster somehow took a $31 ticket up to $45. because, y'know, it's just that expensive to "handle" my ticket, and "process" my order, and all.


and :EDIT: what i have still meant to say is that…how can they get away with that? i know it's slightly hypocritical that i am still paying for it, but…ticketmaster…how??

i actually worked, for a whole year. $15 a week. almost every cent of it went to that show.

Originally posted by PigIron:


In some cases, sure. But in most cases, people don't like to boycott because they actually enjoy or need the product they are being asked to boycott.

For example, I boycott lots of crap. Boycotting Nike for example, because of whatever sweatshop reason, is easy. In my opinion, Nike sucks anyway. There is hardly any sacrifice there for me. Every once in awhile I'm in a store and they only have Nike crap. Minor inconvenience. Go to another store.

Boycotting TM however is difficult. I can't think of a corporation I loathe more. But if TM is the only reasonable outlet for whatever event I want to go to (I can't mush up to Montreal and buy at the ticket window for hockey tickets, for example) I'm screwed. I can boycott TM, but I end up being pissed when the event rolls around. And in the end, I've accomplished little - TM doesn't even know who I am.

thats stupid. well then, I boycott Tampax. but its no biggie, cause i dont really use Tampons anyway.

if you dont "loathe" ticketmaster enough to stop using them (even if it may inconvenience you a smidge) then dont complain about them, tell people how awful they are and all that shit, what a joke…

boycotting TM is NOT difficult. they dont call me up asking me to buy tickets. i dont just walk by TM outlets and see the tickets all shiny in the window. they dont send me tickets in the mail and say "if you return these in 14 days, you will not be charged"

no. boycotting TM is hard cause you dont want to. and people would LOVE to boycott things, but, it would inconvenience them. and in the long run, they'd rather have the pants ripped off them then take a stand.

thats sheeple, people. :)

You are wrong, complaining IS a perfectly viable solution. If you complain to the right people, ie. Congressmen, something may just be done. The reason that people still buy tickets even though they are excesively overpriced is that Ticketmaster holds a monopoly on ticketing for major concert/sporting events in this country. When the ticketing copany is owned by the same company that owns most of the venues and promoters, there is a real problem. Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB), and if you merely boycott, but do not complain and encourage others to boycott on a mass scale, then your impact will not be felt.

As a side note, I went online to purchase DMB tickets in January and after clicking "purchase" to seal the deal for my excellent pavillion seats, it tells me I had just purchased lawn seats (some sort of glitch). I immediately purchase 2 more pavillion seats, and when I call ticketmaster to have them cancel the lawn seats, they tell me that they can't refund the "service charge." Anyhow, the day before the show when I open the tickets I see that the woman (either a complete moron or a bitch), cancelled my GOOD tickets and sent the lawns. There was notihng i could do at that point..

Originally posted by wizman:
You are wrong, complaining IS a perfectly viable solution. If you complain to the right people, ie. Congressmen, something may just be done. The reason that people still buy tickets even though they are excesively overpriced is that Ticketmaster holds a monopoly on ticketing for major concert/sporting events in this country. When the ticketing copany is owned by the same company that owns most of the venues and promoters, there is a real problem. Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB), and if you merely boycott, but do not complain and encourage others to boycott on a mass scale, then your impact will not be felt.

i am not wrong, actually.

there are no congressman on this board. first off. and b, you can bitch and moan at whoever you want and they may or may not listen, but stop giving someone money, and they'll notice.

and in closing, if you really wanna make a difference, fuck Ticketmaster and stay home and write a letter to your congressman, 2 birds with one stone, baby!

heres a quote: "people dont want to make a difference, people want a difference to be made"
- i dont know, but someone probably did say it.

Originally posted by wizman:
Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB),

MLB? Explain please?

How do you know there are no Congressman on this board?

Originally posted by wizman:
You are wrong, complaining IS a perfectly viable solution. If you complain to the right people, ie. Congressmen, something may just be done. The reason that people still buy tickets even though they are excesively overpriced is that Ticketmaster holds a monopoly on ticketing for major concert/sporting events in this country. When the ticketing copany is owned by the same company that owns most of the venues and promoters, there is a real problem. Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB), and if you merely boycott, but do not complain and encourage others to boycott on a mass scale, then your impact will not be felt.

wait, lets recap.

i said: if you dont like TM , then stop using them, dont just complain about them.

you said: you are wrong, dont just boycott, complain about them too.

are you sure we are disagreeing?

Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:

Originally posted by wizman:
Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB),

MLB? Explain please?

MLB also maintains a unique, controlling relationship over the sport, including most aspects of minor league baseball. This is due in large part to a 1922 U.S. Supreme Court ruling which declared baseball is not considered interstate commerce (and therefore not subject to federal antitrust law), despite baseball's own references to itself as an "industry" rather than a "sport."

Clear Channel doesn't own Ticketmaster, but Ticketmaster does have exclusive agreements to sell tickets for several venues in the US. For Clear Channel to own Ticketmaster would come under serious scrunity.

I'm suprised that MLB is going to be allowed to purchase and use Tickets.com as it's online service, talk about control…

heres a way i like to screw over ticketmaster…

buy cheap tickets to the game/show, then make fake ones with a better seat/section. part of the way through, make your way down and VIOLA! you have great seats for a cheap price!

maybe thats not really screwing over ticketmaster…