jaguar
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 04:40 AM UTC
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Yes, but apparently, the Sony comes with wafers.
Here's a
poll with you guys in mind.
Doctor Doom
Joined: April 23, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 11:01 AM UTC
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Heh, this post from Jaguar's link cracked me up…
Basically, anyone who buys this should expect to get their asses kicked. I know I'll beat the first sorry SOB I see yapping on one of these. Talk about pathetic people… It's a damn PDA, not much different than the Treo.
The reason I wont buy one isn't because of Cingular, it's because the device sucks and has already been done before. MacOSX10 is a joke, a masked version of linux, so it's not exactly amazing that they put it on this PDA, seeing as people have been loading Linux on similar devices for years.
Way to go Apple, in copying the competition again, and using your sorry exscuse for an OS on it.
Posted by: Dudley | Jan 9, 2007 8:18:42 PM
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 03:37 PM UTC
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Show me a touch screen linux phone that does all this in such a simple way. I have to admit that I was surprised at how excited I was seeing this thing. I really didn't care that much about an apple phone before yesterday. My Nokia 6230b can do most of what the apple phone does but the apple phone just does it in a much cooler way, and it seems easier. It is definitely reminiscent of when the ipod came out compared to the other mp3 players at the time (to me at least).
Rhett Miller
Joined: November 15, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 03:40 PM UTC
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All this technlogy crap makes me yawn. I'd rather be in a tent in a forest, or in a kayak on a lake.
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 03:42 PM UTC
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I kind of agree. Sometimes I wish all this stuff would dissappear and I could just be hiking more or building a fire somewhere. Then I get an email.
beetsnotbeats
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 04:12 PM UTC
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We should talk!
All this technlogy crap makes me yawn. I'd rather be in a tent in a forest, or in a kayak on a lake.
godsshoeshine
Joined: September 18, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 05:42 PM UTC
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i use cingular. i like it better than the others, and i've had them all. i just call folks, though
vansmack
Joined: October 04, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 06:00 PM UTC
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I have two phones, one from work (Q from Verizon) and one personal (RAZR from Sprint), neither are Cingular because I'm a heavy data user and their data network is ridiculously slow.
Commercials usually fabricate, but that commercial of the two guys on their laptops checking email with data cards is absolutely true.
As for the Flash change that Markie (good to hear from you) is talking about, don't hold your breath. Apple is struggling with the hard drive players these days due to (1) moving parts in the hard drive units and (2) battery performance. That's why the Nike+Sport thing only works on Nano's. Running with the video is not recommended and the constant monitoring of distance and heart rate would make the hard drive needle move to much with the bouncing and the battery would drain.
Improvements in Flash will drive improvements in the iPhone, not a hard drive.
godsshoeshine
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 06:08 PM UTC
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out of curiousity what kind of data do you use on your razr? i installed gmail on mine and it crashes alot
vansmack
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 08:34 PM UTC
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A lot of it depends on your carrier. The operating systems are different on each RAZR. I used to use the RAZR from Verizon and while I found it less intuitive to find things, it was faster and more stable than my current Sprint RAZR.
I was originally a beta tester for the Sprint version so I expected it to be buggy, but even after subtle improvements since its commercial release, it's still quite slow to react to commands. That notwithstanding, it's organized much better than the Verizon RAZR - if I need to get to my top four functions, they're programmable for easy access.
As for data, I watch a lot of Sprint TV, tried to listen to Sprint streaming music (more on that when an article I authored for bigyawn comes out), check sports scores often, check train arrival times in SF daily, and check my MSN account often. Not once has my phone frozen completely, but it can get quite slow (not the data speed, the actual programs themselves). I have noticed that adding a Mini SD card has helped performance (might be a shared memory issue).
As for your phone, you have a Cingular phone so it might be the data network speeds. You're working at a peak of about 180 Kbps with a long latency time. I'm guessing that gmail is timing out due to latency.
godsshoeshine
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 09:19 PM UTC
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bummer, i was pretty excited when the gmail thing came out
vansmack
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Re: iphone...
January 10, 2007 at 10:35 PM UTC
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I'll tell you what - I'll sign up for a gmail account and test it with my RAZR and get back to you. This may narrow down the problems you're having. I know a guy who has a verizon phone and a gmail account so I'll test it on his phone too.
vansmack
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 12:21 AM UTC
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GS - are you using the Downloadable Gmail App or the web browser version?
The downloadable app works fine on the Sprint phone, but won't work on the Verizon version (doesn't support Java2ME MIDP2), but the web version works fine.
And one more silly question - you have the V3 RAZR, correct?
Doctor Doom
Joined: April 23, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 12:24 AM UTC
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I dropped my Razr in the toilet and it no longer works. :(
vansmack
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 12:33 AM UTC
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The one they call Doctor Doom said:
I dropped my Razr in the toilet and it no longer works.
I hope she was worth it.
kosmo
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 01:25 AM UTC
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can't claim this as mine, but this is tres funny….
$500 is too expensive for me, but maybe they'll make a cheaper version: the iPhone shuffle. It makes calls from your addressbook, but you have no idea who it's going to call next.
vansmack
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 01:53 AM UTC
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I thought I had read a NYT article about the name a week ago….Apple will gain the rights, but it won't be cheap.
January 10, 2007
Cisco Sues Apple Over Use of iPhone Name
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) – Cisco Systems Inc. (NASDAQ:CSCO) said Wednesday it is suing Apple Inc. in federal court over Apple's use of Cisco's registered iPhone trademark for its new handheld device.
Cisco has owned the trademark on the name "iPhone" since 2000, when it acquired InfoGear Technology Corp., which originally registered the name.
And three weeks ago, Cisco's Linksys division put the trademark to use, releasing an Internet-enabled phone called "iPhone" that uses the increasingly popular Voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP.
On Tuesday, Apple unveiled the iPhone, its "game-changing" touch-screen-controlled cell phone device that plays music, surfs the Web and delivers voicemail and e-mail.
"Cisco entered into negotiations with Apple in good faith after Apple repeatedly asked permission to use Cisco's iPhone name," said Mark Chandler, Cisco senior vice president and general counsel, in a statement. "There is no doubt that Apple's new phone is very exciting, but they should not be using our trademark without our permission."
Cisco is seeking injunctive relief to prevent Apple from copying Cisco's iPhone trademark.
"Today's iPhone is not tomorrow's iPhone. The potential for convergence of the home phone, cell phone, work phone and PC is limitless, which is why it is so important for us to protect our brand," Chandler added.
helicon1
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 03:14 AM UTC
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I read the iPhone has 5 hours of battery life. That is terrible.
sweetcell
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Re: iphone...
January 11, 2007 at 05:43 AM UTC
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Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
I read the iPhone has 5 hours of battery life. That is terrible.
Battery:
Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing
Up to 16 hours Audio playback
(
apple.com)
while not mind-blowing, those specs are definitely respectable - especially considering how much more this thing is doing. try fully recharging your phone, calling someone (on weekends, of course) and see if you can talk 5 hours… i know my phone can't do it.