ahhhh, marion barry. now that was leader!
Dubya back on the sauce
I'm sure of plenty of addicts go cold turkey. How many of this nebulous "plenty" stay clean? I've known 4 heroin addicts in my life; none of them have been able to stay clean.
Btw, Xavier, you post the lamest 'look-at-the-chip-on-my-shoulder' shit on this board. How come? Is it because I'm black?
Btw, Xavier, you post the lamest 'look-at-the-chip-on-my-shoulder' shit on this board. How come? Is it because I'm black?
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
What the hell are you talking about? Plenty of drug and alcohol abusers go cold turkey.
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:one doesn't just up and quit a lifelong habit like drinking or blow. His polls are slipping and the cracks in his cartoon policymaking are beginning to show, so it follows that he'd go back to what he knows best - getting fucked up. It's not like he's ever acheived anything meaningful or character building in his life that he can reference in tight times like these - failed oil exec, he was relieved of his minority stake ownership of the Rangers - that
You guys will believe anything you read…..LOL
agreed.
and continues to give a shit. he has a genuine interest in global issues that would put Bush to sleep.
and continues to give a shit. he has a genuine interest in global issues that would put Bush to sleep.
Originally posted by bearman:
Putting Bubba and Dubya in the same boat is laughable to me. Not that Bubba was perfect by any means, but at least he gave a damn.
are you kidding? invading Iraq was on the table way before 9-11. Kissinger proposed invading Saudi Arabia in 73 during the first major gas crisis. The US is pretty serious about maintaining a steady supply of oil. No oil means no commerce and no defense.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by hostiledm:Isn't GW the one who went looking for Osama in Iraq, basically?
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:The reflex Clinton argument is getting so old. How many years ago was Clinton in office, but yes, it is his fault Osama is STILL alive.
Osama should be sending Clinton Christmas cards every year for letting him live longer. Thanks, Bill.
the jokes about Bill Clinton's philandering will probably never end. But Clinton and his views and opinions still count.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:Like Bill Clinton did….LOL [/QB]
I really would like to see him exit the White House in deep shame
You're black?
Steve Earle has managed to stay off of junk, and everything else he was addicted to.
Steve Earle has managed to stay off of junk, and everything else he was addicted to.
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:
I'm sure of plenty of addicts go cold turkey. How many of this nebulous "plenty" stay clean? I've known 4 heroin addicts in my life; none of them have been able to stay clean.
Btw, Xavier, you post the lamest 'look-at-the-chip-on-my-shoulder' shit on this board. How come? Is it because I'm black?
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
What the hell are you talking about? Plenty of drug and alcohol abusers go cold turkey.
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:one doesn't just up and quit a lifelong habit like drinking or blow. His polls are slipping and the cracks in his cartoon policymaking are beginning to show, so it follows that he'd go back to what he knows best - getting fucked up. It's not like he's ever acheived anything meaningful or character building in his life that he can reference in tight times like these - failed oil exec, he was relieved of his minority stake ownership of the Rangers - that
You guys will believe anything you read…..LOL
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:I know, furthest thing from my mind also.
You're black?
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:Trust me….there are loads and loads of junkies, drunks and crackheads who get clean and stay clean.
I'm sure of plenty of addicts go cold turkey. How many of this nebulous "plenty" stay clean? I've known 4 heroin addicts in my life; none of them have been able to stay clean.
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:…and to shame. Mind you Sadam Husseins interest in Global issues would put hee-haw to shame.
agreed.
and continues to give a shit. he has a genuine interest in global issues that would put Bush to sleep.
Originally posted by bearman:
Putting Bubba and Dubya in the same boat is laughable to me. Not that Bubba was perfect by any means, but at least he gave a damn.
Yes, I was kidding. Getting Osama was just the REASON to go in to Iraq at this time (the undercurrent reason, there were the whole WMD as well…)
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:
are you kidding? invading Iraq was on the table way before 9-11. Kissinger proposed invading Saudi Arabia in 73 during the first major gas crisis. The US is pretty serious about maintaining a steady supply of oil. No oil means no commerce and no defense.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by hostiledm:Isn't GW the one who went looking for Osama in Iraq, basically?
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:The reflex Clinton argument is getting so old. How many years ago was Clinton in office, but yes, it is his fault Osama is STILL alive.
Osama should be sending Clinton Christmas cards every year for letting him live longer. Thanks, Bill.
Originally posted by Bags:
[QB] , there were the whole WMD as well…)
Where did they dispose of those in the end? ;)
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:Ireland
Where did they dispose of those in the end? ;) [/QB]
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:Oh, those must be the ones the IRA just decommissioned. :roll:
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:Ireland [/QB]
Where did they dispose of those in the end? ;)
Here's Gerry Adams and P. O'Neill at the decommissioning ceremony.
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ehtiopian, at any rate
god bless Steve Earle and all, but does anyone on this board personally know someone who went cold turkey and quit for life? saying there are "plenty of people" doesnt really prove anything to me. My experience says otherwise.
ANd it's beside the point anyhow. It's a fact that Bush has been a hard partier for most of his life. Drinking is a part of his culture. Add to that the likelihood that he and his kin are genetically predisposed to addiction - his daughters, Jeb's kids. Bush also tends to stick his chest out and front righteousness regardless of the facts. So when he says he quit cold turkey, I get skeptical.
god bless Steve Earle and all, but does anyone on this board personally know someone who went cold turkey and quit for life? saying there are "plenty of people" doesnt really prove anything to me. My experience says otherwise.
ANd it's beside the point anyhow. It's a fact that Bush has been a hard partier for most of his life. Drinking is a part of his culture. Add to that the likelihood that he and his kin are genetically predisposed to addiction - his daughters, Jeb's kids. Bush also tends to stick his chest out and front righteousness regardless of the facts. So when he says he quit cold turkey, I get skeptical.
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
You're black?
Steve Earle has managed to stay off of junk, and everything else he was addicted to.
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:
I'm sure of plenty of addicts go cold turkey. How many of this nebulous "plenty" stay clean? I've known 4 heroin addicts in my life; none of them have been able to stay clean.
Btw, Xavier, you post the lamest 'look-at-the-chip-on-my-shoulder' shit on this board. How come? Is it because I'm black?
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
What the hell are you talking about? Plenty of drug and alcohol abusers go cold turkey.
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:one doesn't just up and quit a lifelong habit like drinking or blow. His polls are slipping and the cracks in his cartoon policymaking are beginning to show, so it follows that he'd go back to what he knows best - getting fucked up. It's not like he's ever acheived anything meaningful or character building in his life that he can reference in tight times like these - failed oil exec, he was relieved of his minority stake ownership of the Rangers - that
You guys will believe anything you read…..LOL
whadya mean back on again? It's like he never left. :)
Originally posted by _Sexy Fitsum_:Your personal experience includes 4 people you say you know who were heroin addicts. I'd hardly call that a wealth of personal experience.
god bless Steve Earle and all, but does anyone on this board personally know someone who went cold turkey and quit for life? saying there are "plenty of people" doesnt really prove anything to me. My experience says otherwise.
Believe me when I say that I know what I'm talking about here and not just talking out of my ass. I've known many people who have died, done jail again and again etc. over drugs, but I also know many people and have many friends who have gotten clean from drugs and stayed clean for years, decades, whatever, and continue to stay clean. Now obviously I can't say these people have "quit for life" until we put them in the ground due to natural or otherwise non-drug related causes (which I've also done a time or two).
So to answer your question in one word, yes.