$6 Yuengling?

that stinking 9:30 Club. i mean, they let in underage kids that can't drink to every show, and they don't even limit their numbers! sometimes, the entire venue is filled with people too young to buy a bud light! how do they expect to move enough volume to keep prices at below market level with those practices? moreover, when they book a show that doesn't generate huge bar revenue, do they learn their lesson and pass on it the next time? noooooooo. they keep doing what they think is right, occasionally adjusting their price structure to match market forces and respond to their fixed and variable costs. clearly, they just don't care about us drinkers. i feel betrayed. were my soul not in a glowing green globe underneath eddie's desk, i would so be outta there …

hey – can we figure out the real estate market next? i would really like to buy one of the new lofts in logan circle, but they are SO overpriced. it isn't like this is new york where you can find a loft anywhere. as one of the sole purveyors of such properties in our area, i think the developers have a duty to keep their prices down, even if there are people that will pay what they are asking for. i mean, who do they think they are?

Originally posted by Urbansprite:
i would really like to buy one of the new lofts in logan circle, but they are SO overpriced.

Why don't you try Logan's Run instead?

Sarcasm or not, you can't say $6 for Yuengling is fair, dude.

As far as I'm concerned, people who drink the swill that is beer deserve to be ripped off.

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:


if a ticket is too much money, don't go

if a drink is too much, don't buy it

we will notice, believe me

have you noticed that i stopped coming?

Why doesn't the club have a surcharge for those under 21? Most clubs do these days. Seth, you're missing a capitalistic opportunity.

Originally posted by xcanuck:
Be nice to your bartenders, tip well, don't be impatient, and I think you'll fin5{less for beers. I know my bar bill is usually less than what it should be and it's not just the 930 that does that.

Then again, maybe I'm getting some kind of volume discount which comes from drinking eight beers per night ;)

Drinking 8 beers a night…probably means you aren't getting a discount. You're probably just buzzed enough to not realize the amount of money you're spending.

Originally posted by Arlette:
Why doesn't the club have a surcharge for those under 21? Most clubs do these days. Seth, you're missing a capitalistic opportunity.

being a capitalist does not mean that making money takes the place of right & wrong

I just think that charging people extra because of their age is wrong, and offensive

on the business side of that, we are trying to develop our future customers, not discourage them

Isn't "Yuengling" what they do in the Swiss alps when flu season hits?

Or maybe $6 Yuengling is a sex act you can buy on the beach at Phuket island? "Hey, did you know that you can give your John Thomas a good Yuengling in Thailand for only 6 bucks American!"

Originally posted by clouds R²:
Or maybe $6 Yuengling is a sex act you can buy on the beach at Phuket island?

I can assure you, it is not.

Originally posted by squidpants:
Sarcasm or not, you can't say $6 for Yuengling is fair, dude.

it was sarcasm, and actually i do think it's fair. as a general principle, you don't get more anti-consumer than price-fixing. moreover, regulation of business pricing is only necessary where there is market failure, and once you start regulating, well, that opens up a whole can of worms that ultimately takes the control out of your hands.

in other words, it is fair because the consumer decides whether the price will function or fail. consumers stop buying beer, consumers eventually will pay less for beer. consumers keep buying beer, then they have deemed the prices to be acceptable. the supply/demand model may not be representative of you, your values, or those of the people around you. but it isn't meant to be. think about all the crap that gets played on the radio. we (a lot of us) listen to it and think, "are you f*cking kidding me?" but they are playing it because people are consuming it, and so long as they do (whoever they are), advertisers will pay the price for spots to reach them. if the advertisers stopped paying because the audience wasn't there, radio would be forced to adjust its programming. right now, people are listening, so ladies and gentlemen, we have good charlotte.

economics isn't sexy, but it is usually pretty logical, and our system allows the consumer-at-large to set the pace. what is more fair than that?

Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:


if a ticket is too much money, don't go

if a drink is too much, don't buy it

we will notice, believe me

have you noticed that i stopped coming?

And so did I…even before I moved away.

Originally posted by Urbansprite:

…economics isn't sexy, but it is usually pretty logical, and our system allows the consumer-at-large to set the pace. what is more fair than that?

Thanks for the lecture, Adam Smith, but I have attended economics class before, and that's not my definition of fair. I want to drink beer at concerts, and at these prices, I refuse to. I don't care to wait for the market to reach equilibrium. John Stuart Mill can come back to life and do a spoken word show at the 9:30 Club discussing why Yuengling was $6, and I'd still think it was too expensive.

I noticed Yuengling was $4.50 from the tap at the Black Cat last night. Maybe they have a distibutor who sells it to them for 25% less?

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:

Originally posted by Arlette:
Why doesn't the club have a surcharge for those under 21? Most clubs do these days. Seth, you're missing a capitalistic opportunity.

being a capitalist does not mean that making money takes the place of right & wrong

I just think that charging people extra because of their age is wrong, and offensive

on the business side of that, we are trying to develop our future customers, not discourage them

That's one way to look at it, but the people who are old enough to drink are adding much more to your profits than those who are not. In fact, if your venue is like most in the country, ticket sales barely cover the band guarantees and your profits come from alcohol sales. So, by increasing drink prices and not charging extra to those who cannot drink you are penalizing the people who contribute the most to your financial success.

You assume that everyone who is 21+ is idiot enough to pay 5 or 6 bucks for a cup of beer. Not true.

Originally posted by Arlette:

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:

Originally posted by Arlette:
Why doesn't the club have a surcharge for those under 21? Most clubs do these days. Seth, you're missing a capitalistic opportunity.

being a capitalist does not mean that making money takes the place of right & wrong

I just think that charging people extra because of their age is wrong, and offensive

on the business side of that, we are trying to develop our future customers, not discourage them

That's one way to look at it, but the people who are old enough to drink are adding much more to your profits than those who are not. In fact, if your venue is like most in the country, ticket sales barely cover the band guarantees and your profits come from alcohol sales. So, by increasing drink prices and not charging extra to those who cannot drink you are penalizing the people who contribute the most to your financial success.

Originally posted by squidpants:

Originally posted by Urbansprite:

…economics isn't sexy, but it is usually pretty logical, and our system allows the consumer-at-large to set the pace. what is more fair than that?

I want to drink beer at concerts, and at these prices, I refuse to. I don't care to wait for the market to reach equilibrium.

well, i'd like to own a penthouse, marry george clooney and stay 27 (ahem) for the rest of my life. what can i say. reality is a bitch.

Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
You assume that everyone who is 21+ is idiot enough to pay 5 or 6 bucks for a cup of beer. Not true.

yeah, i personally go for the $7 mini-shots of SoCo.

Originally posted by Arlette:
That's one way to look at it, but the people who are old enough to drink are adding much more to your profits than those who are not. In fact, if your venue is like most in the country, ticket sales barely cover the band guarantees and your profits come from alcohol sales. So, by increasing drink prices and not charging extra to those who cannot drink you are penalizing the people who contribute the most to your financial success.

Didn't you hear all bands play at the 9:30 club play for free and box of yummie cookies…