<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>The problem probably is that most white families in DC are pretty well off, as you point out they need to be, and are not seen as giving a lot back to the city as a whole. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>what, is their tax money no good?<P>
Audioslave?
That City Paper article was striking in regards to the people who are moving into those new million-dollar lofts in Adams-Morgan. Apparently they are already complaining about the noise from the 18th Street strip. What the hell did they expect? You can be sure that before too long they'll be agitating to get those businesses to tone it down. As a long time DC resident, I'd be just as happy to see many of the new peeps who are coming in and trying to suburbanize the city stay out.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> ermm poorlulus boss was on npr saying the same thing, wich is odd as their store is in Adams Morgan. Probably not the best self-advert, but there you go.<P>Apparently she was protesting about the graffiti.<P><BR>As for you Thirsty, I grew up in a quiet village. I can look back upon my innocent teen years and smile. Although at the time I lusted for the bright lights and big city and in a way I still do. <P>But if I had kids would I want tham to grow up in a neighbourhood where I see used syringes, smashed beer bottles, drunks and fighting?<P>Although these are normal features of the world it maybe better to let innocence prevail for a few years at least.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>now that you say that, I think poorlulus boss was actually on Channel 5 news as well<BR>
I guess you didn't take what I said as I thought you would. It was a joke. I doubt I would raise my kids in the city either. There's a lot to be said for lots of open space. <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>As for you Thirsty, I grew up in a quiet village. I can look back upon my innocent teen years and smile. Although at the time I lusted for the bright lights and big city and in a way I still do. <P>But if I had kids would I want tham to grow up in a neighbourhood where I see used syringes, smashed beer bottles, drunks and fighting?<P>Although these are normal features of the world it maybe better to let innocence prevail for a few years at least.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><p>[This message has been edited by thirsty moore (edited 01-14-2003).]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Celeste:<BR><B> what, is their tax money no good?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>well forgetting the fact they can afford accountants who help lighten their tax burden, I think DC needs more than that, maybe I am naive for wanting people to care about more than just their backyard
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Doctor Doom:<BR><B>That City Paper article was striking in regards to the people who are moving into those new million-dollar lofts in Adams-Morgan. Apparently they are already complaining about the noise from the 18th Street strip. What the hell did they expect? You can be sure that before too long they'll be agitating to get those businesses to tone it down. As a long time DC resident, I'd be just as happy to see many of the new peeps who are coming in and trying to suburbanize the city stay out.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>different article from the school one, but this one pissed me off, too…there are already too many SUV driving shitheads in DC…and I agree, what did they expect?<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> well forgetting the fact they can afford accountants who help lighten their tax burden, I think DC needs more than that, maybe I am naive for wanting people to care about more than just their backyard</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>who's to say that they don't care…the point is that the families who want to send their kids to the schools here DO care…DC, like many big cities, is just grossly mis-managed, and DC has some further handicapping factors other cities don't…like the fact that people who work here but do not live here do not have their income taxes go to DC…probably something to do with its mixed up identity of not being a city or a state, exactly<p>[This message has been edited by Celeste (edited 01-14-2003).]
you said, "what is their tax money no good?", which seems to say that is enough, doesn't show a lot of caring, unless following the law is caring<P>and I was pointing out before that one of the problems with race relation problems in dc is that they may be <B>perceived</B> as not caring
i havent bought the new audioslave cd yet.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by thirsty moore:<BR><B> It was a joke. <BR> <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sorry, I am trying to write a massive review and it means I cant concentrate on the board like I should. Remeber to give me a good hard slap the next time you see me.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>you said, "what is their tax money no good?", which seems to say that is enough, doesn't show a lot of caring, unless following the law is caring<P>and I was pointing out before that one of the problems with race relation problems in dc is that they may be perceived</B> as not caring<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>You're right about perceptions…I just wanted to point out that the city does have an obligation to provide services to its inhabitants for their property tax money…the idea that the government has a "right" to taxes is heinous enough, but, I can see that, we share roads, utilities, etc…and schools…and I'm sure the wealthy (white) folks pay more taxes<BR>
So I'm guessing that nobody has any clue why DC was snubbed by Audioslave?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Celeste:<BR><B> <BR>You're right about perceptions…I just wanted to point out that the city does have an obligation to provide services to its inhabitants for their property tax money…the idea that the government has a "right" to taxes is heinous enough, but, I can see that, we share roads, utilities, etc…and schools…and I'm sure the wealthy (white) folks pay more taxes</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>the government does have the right to taxes as long as we continue to live by the social contract we do, I would like to see one of these extreme anti-tax militia type guys try and live for a while without needing at least something that has been at least partially funded by tax money<P>if the government does not have the right to tax money, citizens dont have the right to roads, utilities, etc…and schools<P>and I don't know why we put such an emphasis on separating the government as this overbearing entity, the government is us, we are the government, corny sounding, but true
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JGatz:<BR><B>So I'm guessing that nobody has any clue why DC was snubbed by Audioslave?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>because there aren't as many Rage Against the Machine fans here, because there were not enough upper middle class kids in the city to get taught about the plight of the opressed by a pseudo-intellectual rock band
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> because there aren't as many Rage Against the Machine fans here, because there were not enough upper middle class kids in the city to get taught about the plight of the opressed by a pseudo-intellectual rock band</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ever heard of Fugazi?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ggw:<BR><B> Ever heard of Fugazi?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>yeah and I bet they don't even pull in as many people as Audioslave would at local shows
I agree with what Markie says below. Except as I near the age of 36, the lure of the bright lights of the big city have dimmed significantly for me. Other than a shorter commute (assuming I stay employed in the city, and don't get a job in Rockville or Fairfax or something), the city doesn't really offer me what interests me. And if an event in the city does catch my attention, well that's what my car or Metro is there for.<P><BR>As for you Thirsty, I grew up in a quiet village. I can look back upon my innocent teen years and smile. Although at the time I lusted for the bright lights and big city and in a way I still do. <P>But if I had kids would I want tham to grow up in a neighbourhood where I see used syringes, smashed beer bottles, drunks and fighting?<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JGatz:<BR><B>So I'm guessing that nobody has any clue why DC was snubbed by Audioslave?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>We were blessed.<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B> yeah and I bet they don't even pull in as many people as Audioslave would at local shows</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>so fugazi's message is validated by their comparative lack of popularity? i don't like rage and i certainly don't care at all about audioslave, but that crazy dredded bastard never struck me as someone who is using his political beliefs to get chicks.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback:<BR><B> so fugazi's message is validated by their comparative lack of popularity? i don't like rage and i certainly don't care at all about audioslave, but that crazy dredded bastard never struck me as someone who is using his political beliefs to get chicks. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>clearly my original comment about rage against the machine was a cheap shot, did not intend to start a debate over whose message is valid