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Off shore drilling = a 3% increase of the amount of domestic gas made available to the American Public in the year 2015 at the earliest, and will have virtually no effect on price.

Demand from China and India made the price go up, a demand we all knew was coming.

The war in Iraq decreased supply to the world to a tune of about half it was before the war (from 3 million barrels a day down to 1.8 million barrels a day). For comparative effect, the increase by 2030 from the expanded off shore drilling is about 200,000 barrels a day, or the equivelant of about 11% of what was lost from the Iraq war.

Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
so we should vote for the guy thats been voting with the current moron running the country for the past 8 years? i'll take lack of experience over lack of judgement any day

You know, when I go to the gas station and get pissed that gas is $3.50/gallon, I generally blame Barack Obama who voted for the Bush energy bill and opposes off-shore drilling instead of John McCain who voted against the Bush energy policy, favors energy independence, BUT has the letter R after his name. But hey, McCain's a Bush clone, I know because a douchebag on a nightclub messageboard said so once.

i see name calling is all you have left

Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Hey douchebag, drive a hybrid or smaller car, carpool, ride a bike, or walk. I laugh at you for getting pissed about the price of gas, loser.

You forgot to remind me that all our gas problems can be fixed by inflating our tires. Your idiot Messiah assured us all from his million dollar house financed by criminals that was all we needed to do.

financed by criminals? i thought his wealth came from writing books…

the inflating the tires was a common sense suggestion supported by other organization and never meant to provide a permanent solution. the knee jerk deriding of the this suggestion by the McCain campaign is typical of how his organization handles such issues. fire first think later and end up with egg on their faces.

do you really want a potential president who has in the past enjoyed gambling and also cozies up to lobbiests from the the gaming industry?

anybody voting for mccain is nuts PERIOD.. the republicans have run the country into the ground.. you don't reward that by voting republican ..

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:

Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
so we should vote for the guy thats been voting with the current moron running the country for the past 8 years? i'll take lack of experience over lack of judgement any day

You know, when I go to the gas station and get pissed that gas is $3.50/gallon, I generally blame Barack Obama who voted for the Bush energy bill and opposes off-shore drilling instead of John McCain who voted against the Bush energy policy, favors energy independence, BUT has the letter R after his name. But hey, McCain's a Bush clone, I know because a douchebag on a nightclub messageboard said so once.

i see name calling is all you have left

despite the fact that i disagree with everything Julian points out, the use of the word douchebag was directed AT him first, therefore i think he does reserve the right to use it back.

i never called him a douchebag. i enjoy most of his posts

I was unaware I called anyone in particular a douchebag. It was a "royal douchebag" applying to a vague collective of Obamaphiles, the same way the Queen of England refers to herself as a "we" when she means herself.

ah i see. i assumed because you quoted me, the douchebag was thrown in my direction. which is gross

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i never called him a douchebag. i enjoy most of his posts

I believe Rhett called him a douchebag on the previous page.

after he called everyone against him douchebags

I don't think they're freaked out now. The ones freaked out now? GOP.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/27/2008-09-27_calls_rise_among_republicans_for_sarah_p.html

Originally posted by manimtired:
i stand by the statement that the dems freaked out about palin when she was announced. no?

Originally posted by vansmack:
Off shore drilling = a 3% increase of the amount of domestic gas made available to the American Public in the year 2015 at the earliest, and will have virtually no effect on price.

I believe that off-shore drilling is yet another republican manipulation of people. Off-shore drilling WILL reduce dependancy of Middle East Oil. thats true.

most people infer that to mean lower prices. dont be fooled, you'll just be putting money into someone elses pockets.

What's most interesting is how my not calling anyone a douchebag overrides me pointing out again the fact that John McCain is not a Bush clone, and its Obama who has sided with Bush on several economic disasters like his latest energy policy. Obama failed, again, today to show any qualifications for the Presidency when he, as the supposed de facto leader of the Democrats at this point, failed to get House Democrats to back the economic bailout bill he himself supported. I can't wait to elect this guy to office so he and his democratic majority in both houses find themselves unable to be united under Obama's glorious hand of HopeChange.

The Obamaphiles are salivating at passing the buck off on McCain, when all we needed for the economic bailout plan to pass was Obama to unite his majority in Congress, in which case all the Republicans could vote "no" and it'd be tough cookies. But alas, I suppose photo ops was more important then uniting people and getting things done. Then again, if he had actually tried, we would've seen he couldn't have done it anyway since he's a divisive, weak-handed charlatan with no clothes. I love the talk of new politics and building coalitions across the aisle from a guy who cannot sway his own Congressional majority to pass a bill he backs. Great work, Obama.

the democrats in the house were not going to solely bear the brunt of the voters anger on this bill, nor should they 5 weeks from the election. if anything you have it backwards, the now protectionist mccain couldnt get the house republicans on board. heck, he didnt even need all of them

Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:

The Obamaphiles are salivating at passing the buck off on McCain, when all we needed for the economic bailout plan to pass was Obama to unite his majority in Congress, in which case all the Republicans could vote "no" and it'd be tough cookies.

so basically because he didnt convince 100% or 200 some house democrats to ALL vote a very hasty , almost emergency knee jerk reaction yes to probably the most risky, costly, volitale legislation perhaps in the history of earth that he's not qualified?

mccain was for this bill too and he only need like 1/3 of repubs!!

I guess we should vote for the candidate with the most frequent flier miles.

It's been known for many years that Rhett is a douchebag, so pointing it out doesn't add much to the discussion.

Sarah Palin is a cunt.

Ever since her cuntishness started to shine through, I've been afraid that Biden would mutter "fucking cunt" under his breath during the debate. And that'd be a much more aggregious slip-up than McCain's "horseshit."

Off shore drilling = a 3% increase of the amount of domestic gas made available to the American Public in the year 2015 at the earliest, and will have virtually no effect on price.

What I don't get is: doesn't the notion of reducing price imply that we have a nationalized oil industry? I mean, since we actually have a privatized oil industry, wouldn't a barrel of oil made here just get sold on the same world commodity market at the world market price no different than if it was produced somewhere else? Help me out here.

Originally posted by edbert:

Off shore drilling = a 3% increase of the amount of domestic gas made available to the American Public in the year 2015 at the earliest, and will have virtually no effect on price.

What I don't get is: doesn't the notion of reducing price imply that we have a nationalized oil industry? I mean, since we actually have a privatized oil industry, wouldn't a barrel of oil made here just get sold on the same world commodity market at the world market price no different than if it was produced somewhere else? Help me out here.

no, you nailed it. price wouldnt change a bit. Besides, Oil companies already have leases on drillable areas in the US. They just choose NOT to drill on them because they figure gas to be higher in the future so they will wait for the price to go up even more.

This whole thing is nothing more than Bush wanting to hand his oil buddies millions of acres of drillable land to ensure they are filthy rich for the rest of their, and their grandkids, lives.

it might actually be more of a pile of lies than that war in Iraq!!!!