Rhett Miller
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Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 04:58 PM UTC
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Anyone seen this guy driving around in his truck with a big sign that says "Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin."?
As a good citizen, I flipped him the bird and yelled, "Kerry is very fit, you fairy motherfucker. He looks pretty darn good in a windsurfer suit!"
And while I'm on the topic of loons, I just saw a bunch of fat guys walking around the mall wearing outfits that they looked like they picked up at cherokeenation.com. Did Halloween come early this year, or did the Redskins finally win a game?
thirsty moore
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 05:05 PM UTC
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The Native American Museum has recently opened.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And while I'm on the topic of loons, I just saw a bunch of fat guys walking around the mall wearing outfits that they looked like they picked up at cherokeenation.com. Did Halloween come early this year, or did the Redskins finally win a game?
Venerable Bede
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 05:11 PM UTC
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Originally posted by econo:
The Native American Museum has recently opened.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And while I'm on the topic of loons, I just saw a bunch of fat guys walking around the mall wearing outfits that they looked like they picked up at cherokeenation.com. Did Halloween come early this year, or did the Redskins finally win a game?
actually, it opens today. . .
Rhett Miller
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 05:12 PM UTC
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I know, it was a joke.
It's actually called the National Museum of the American Indian.
I though it was funny on the metro today, an
American Indian couple were standing and went to sit down and the fringes of her Indian dress get up got caught in the feather thingy he was carrying and they couldn't untangle it, so they had to sit down like Siamese twins.
Originally posted by econo:
The Native American Museum has recently opened.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And while I'm on the topic of loons, I just saw a bunch of fat guys walking around the mall wearing outfits that they looked like they picked up at cherokeenation.com. Did Halloween come early this year, or did the Redskins finally win a game?
thirsty moore
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 05:19 PM UTC
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I know it was a joke, and after a little digging I found that the museum is called National Museum of the American Indian. It's a great building that I saw in various stages of construction when I worked near the Mall.
It was funny, because when the Building Museum opened up I saw two buildings standing next to each other on the Metro in traditional dress with their steel girders all entangled.
skeeter
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 08:24 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It's actually called the National Museum of the American Indian.
Does this name surprise anyone else? I'm not overly pc, but I was quite surprised to hear them referred to as "American Indian" rather than "Native American". I'm surprised there wasn't more of a ruckus over that (unless I just missed it).
Rhett Miller
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 21, 2004 at 08:29 PM UTC
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Maybe the Indians don't buy into all the pc bullshit like certain white people do.
Hell, I'll bet a vast majority of them didn't object you the name "Washington Redskins" until they were told they were supposed to.
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It's actually called the National Museum of the American Indian.
Does this name surprise anyone else? I'm not overly pc, but I was quite surprised to hear them referred to as "American Indian" rather than "Native American". I'm surprised there wasn't more of a ruckus over that (unless I just missed it).
hitman
Joined: September 23, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 03:44 AM UTC
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
It's actually called the National Museum of the American Indian.
Does this name surprise anyone else? I'm not overly pc, but I was quite surprised to hear them referred to as "American Indian" rather than "Native American". I'm surprised there wasn't more of a ruckus over that (unless I just missed it).
For most tribes, the feelings on this topic are split down the middle. Some prefer "American Indian" while others prefer "Native American." I was down there today for the parade and opening, and was actually able to speak to some tribal members about this subject.
hitman
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 03:48 AM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Maybe the Indians don't buy into all the pc bullshit like certain white people do.
Hell, I'll bet a vast majority of them didn't object you the name "Washington Redskins" until they were told they were supposed to.
This one frosts me personally. I think the tribes should be pissed on this one, and want a change of name for the Redskins, Chiefs, Braves, Indians, and any other one I can't think of right now.
NAACP would go fuck nuts if a team was called the "Negroes" or "Nigg***s" for that matter.
The white supremacists would be in an uproar (as well as Republicans I'm sure) if a team was called the "Whities, Crackers, or Honkeys."
And the Jewish folks would be upset if a team were called the "Ki*es."
And the list can go on and on, thinking of racial slurs or other derogatory names for different ethnic groups, etc. So if it isn't acceptable for those folks, it certainly shouldn't be acceptable for the Natives.
Darth Ed
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 05:08 AM UTC
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I think the tribes should be pissed on this one, and want a change of name for the Redskins, Chiefs, Braves, Indians, and any other one I can't think of right now.
I don't think it's quite that simple. The team names Chiefs and Braves don't seem very derogatory or demeaning to me. Just the opposite in fact. I think those team names honor Native Americans. But Redskins? That is definitely pretty derogatory in my book. Indians as a team name is borderline, but their mascot when last I saw it sure looked like a demeaning and distasteful caricature.
thirsty moore
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 02:00 PM UTC
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Good question.
Originally posted by Celeste:
why do you block out letters for all terms but those that describe lowly caucasians?
hitman
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 04:01 PM UTC
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[/qb]why do you block out letters for all terms but those that describe lowly caucasians? [/QB]
Well, I guess because I'm caucasian, and not Jewish, I can use those terms. Just like blacks can call each other "nig****" but others can't.
Celeste
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 04:07 PM UTC
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fair enough…it's funny, though, that the derisive terms for caucasians do somehow seem less harmful…maybe to me because I'm not from the South or from poorer beginnings (though hardly not rich)
Rhett Miller
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 04:08 PM UTC
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Aren't you the least bit concerned that people might be offended by such terms?
Originally posted by hitman:
why do you block out letters for all terms but those that describe lowly caucasians? [/QB]
Well, I guess because I'm caucasian, and not Jewish, I can use those terms. Just like blacks can call each other "nig****" but others can't. [/QB]
hitman
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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
September 22, 2004 at 04:08 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
I think the tribes should be pissed on this one, and want a change of name for the Redskins, Chiefs, Braves, Indians, and any other one I can't think of right now.
I don't think it's quite that simple. The team names Chiefs and Braves don't seem very derogatory or demeaning to me. Just the opposite in fact. I think those team names honor Native Americans. But Redskins? That is definitely pretty derogatory in my book. Indians as a team name is borderline, but their mascot when last I saw it sure looked like a demeaning and distasteful caricature.
If you read literature from different tribes, they are split on the feelings about Chiefs and Braves. Some have pretty deep spiritual beliefs about those terms being used outside of the tribe. But it isn't honoring when fans do the "Tomahawk" at the Braves games.
