Demolish Nissan Pavilion...the Coldplay thread.

Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
yeah that box is gone

Which I didn't realize until I went to check the exact words when you asked. Perhaps they've changed their review scale?

ratings key

10.0: Must be Radiohead

9.5-9.9: Great enough to play on your college radio set

9.0-9.4: Try playing this one on your guitar all night in your dorm room

8.5-8.9: The CD is pretty good but runs the risk of becoming mainstream

8.0-8.4: You should buy any green washed out retro t-shirts by this band

7.5-7.9: Good enough for maybe a sticker on your guitar case

7.0-7.4: Decent enough to talk about in the coffee shop

6.0-6.9: Needs more white guitarists with black-rimmed glasses

5.0-5.9: Might be good for a fratboy band, those neanderthals

4.0-4.9: Reviewer couldn't find any Cloves before writing and was angry

3.0-3.9: Too many unintelligent people might understand it

2.0-2.9: Curls up the ends of our bowl haircuts with shame

1.0-1.9: Did not cause a single tear to flow from our weepy eyes

0.0-0.9: That ain't Radiohead

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Sure, but Metacritic has some minimum number (6?) of reviews that an album must get from a list of recognized publications, so its not just random favorites of particular writers.

There are over 100 albums listed on the site, meaning that out of 100 albums reviewed by six or more publications, less than 1% of them are rated "below average." That just doesn't jive with reality.

why not think about it as an A-F school-type grading system where an A is 90-100, F is 0-60 … that seems more like where most reviewers are coming from

plus, they're generally reviewing well-made albums which probably appeal to some section of fans somewhere, so that alone should lift it above a 5 on a 10 scale …. there are dozens of albums released every week that could be rated 1-5 on a 10 scale because they're just horribly recorded, written, and performed … the ones actually reviewed by major media have largely passed those hurdles

Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Coming from the south, getting to Nissan is never that bad, no matter how late I try and get there. I go up 234 (I think) and take a left on wellington, and there's never, ever any traffic until that point, and from there it's only 20 minutes even if packed.

I always seem to luck out leaving as well. I think it only took me 20-30 minutes to get out of the parking lot to leave after Coldplay, and I didn't run out afterwards or anything (and again, going down 234 instead of 66 means there's virtually no one else around).

i would assume this is very different for, say, a big and rich show, than it would be for a coldplay show

i'm guessing for any of their big country shows that more people come from the west east and south than from the north

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
i would assume this is very different for, say, a big and rich show, than it would be for a coldplay show

i'm guessing for any of their big country shows that more people come from the west east and south than from the north

That maybe so, but since I do not listen to country music, we have no way to test that hypothesis.

I was simply offering this observation in thoughts that, if it takes the average DC-area chap 2.5-3 hours to get to/leave Nissan, perhaps they should consider going down 95 and coming my way. Sure, you back track 15 miles or so, but better 15 minutes then 3 hours, no?

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Q: Which critics and publications are included in your calculations?

A: Magnet*

how the hell could they ever translate magnet's reviews into a point system … those things are by far the most ambiguous reviews i read, and i often like them more than other reviews

Originally posted by bearman:
I'm kind of surprised that a band like Travis never made it to where Coldplay is. If Coldplay can do this well in the States, then it's a bit of a puzzlement to me that Travis (who write better songs, are way more fun and funny, and cuter too) never found that audience that would take them to bigger venues and more album sales. They have more charisma and aren't as much of a downer. Of course, that last record of theirs was utter crap, but they had some decent songs early on, especially "Good Feeling" which is a great record.

agreed; but i also think Travis and Coldplay kind of hit around the same time. it's good ole' Nirvana and Soundgarden fun and games…

Originally posted by you be betty:

Originally posted by bearman:
I'm kind of surprised that a band like Travis never made it to where Coldplay is. If Coldplay can do this well in the States, then it's a bit of a puzzlement to me that Travis (who write better songs, are way more fun and funny, and cuter too) never found that audience that would take them to bigger venues and more album sales. They have more charisma and aren't as much of a downer. Of course, that last record of theirs was utter crap, but they had some decent songs early on, especially "Good Feeling" which is a great record.

agreed; but i also think Travis and Coldplay kind of hit around the same time. it's good ole' Nirvana and Soundgarden fun and games…

travis has been around since 96. coldplay had an early EP out in 98. travis has been around for a bit longer. they just never hit it big (or as big) as coldplay in the states, but it seems they are plenty popular in the UK :)

If Pumpkins and Coldplay were playing a double header…that would be the perfect time to demolish Nissan Pavillion.

Add Travis to the bill, and I'll push down the plunger…

just out of curiosity; does it cost the band more/do they make less if they were to play something like, 3-4 sold out nights at 9:30?

Nissan holds 25,000

930 holds 1200

you do the math

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
Nissan holds 25,000

930 holds 1200

you do the math

That's about 21 930 shows…

A couple of years back Tom Petty did an entire month at the Filmore in SF. I don't think you've ever done anything similar, have you? Not that it makes great business sense but it's an interesting idea, taking a pretty good selling artist and giving them an entire month of shows at the club. Hey that's all the rage in Vegas. They built brand new theatres for Celine and Elton. They don't have to lug their gear all over the country for a tour but they still charge the same amount for tickets and they play in the same place every night.

What great band can you convince not to go on tour but play a month of shows at the 930 instead???

Good Charlotte?

It took us 3 1/2 hours from Columbia, MD. I'll never do it again. Philly, NYC, here I come. At least the 3+ hour drive to New York would be worth it. Goddamn Virginia roads! What a backwards state!

the problem is that, as many times as people say they're not going back there, they go anyway

so it's very hard to convince a band like Coldplay that people don't want to go there when the show sells out

believe me, I tried

and now they are able to say I was wrong, people will go there

and I'm thinking maybe they're right…I mean, they obviously are right

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
the problem is that, as many times as people say they're not going back there, they go anyway

so it's very hard to convince a band like Coldplay that people don't want to go there when the show sells out

believe me, I tried

and now they are able to say I was wrong, people will go there

and I'm thinking maybe they're right…I mean, they obviously are right

I go to around 12-15 shows a year, and I've still never been to Nissan, because of the traffic issues. I'll go to Baltimore, Philly, A.C., NY, even Vegas for shows, but no Nissan. there's never been a show there worth that fight. so there's one for you Seth. Tell Coldplay's management. Psyched for Wee Fighters/Foozer tomorrow.

a little digging turns up

DC Music Management
1555 North Vine Street
Los Angeles, CA 90028 United States

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
the problem is that, as many times as people say they're not going back there, they go anyway

So Seth, is that your justification for giving people the shaft on the price of a yuengling?

It's the wages of sin…the price that you must pay for even wanting to go and see Hanson &/or Tom Jones.

Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:

Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
the problem is that, as many times as people say they're not going back there, they go anyway

So Seth, is that your justification for giving people the shaft on the price of a yuengling?

no, but it's the same supply/demand theory…if sales drop, then we will obviously need to reconsider…you should quit buying it if it bothers you that much

when was the last time you remember the price of Yuengling changing?