Originally posted by scoop:I've been to the club somewhere in the range of 100 times, and I've never experienced or noticed even marginally uptight behavior from staff (okay, one time they wouldn't let me take the rest of my bottle of water outside the club, which I found odd, and they did kind of bark at me, but at the end of the show there's a crowd swarming out so I don't think they have time to be polite). If anything, they tend to be very helpful up front and completely invisible out on the floor. And I'm a loud Dem who *sometimes* even drinks too much…You'd think if staff had dick tendencies, I'd have seen it. I think you should gather all your friends around behind you, and look in that mirror and see what you see, my friend. ;)
A few of my polite and professional friends have come to the same conclusion. It's an uptight place for a rock club.
Shakedown Street at 930
Originally posted by Bags:Yeah, I've seen this at a few places before. I can understand no water going in, but why the heck would they have a problem with water going out? :confused:
(okay, one time they wouldn't let me take the rest of my bottle of water outside the club, which I found odd)
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:I gotta say ditto. I love the Red Room, and it's bad enough now. Imagine if it also became the smoking section for the whole club! Oy, and the Back Bar – such a confined space…
Ugh. I would hate that. That would essentially turn those bars into smoking lounges.
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:I have no idea. And as I think about it, I was barked at pretty gruffly – when it should be pretty easy to understand that a patron would assume you could take water outside. I didn't care about the water, but was surprised they'd assume I know about this slightly odd policy…
Originally posted by Bags:Yeah, I've seen this at a few places before. I can understand no water going in, but why the heck would they have a problem with water going out? :confused:
(okay, one time they wouldn't let me take the rest of my bottle of water outside the club, which I found odd)
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:that would be really nice, as this little Betty is about as straightedge as you could get as far as drugs and smoking go (and only straightedge as far as drugs and smoking go!).
legislation maybe the way to go… but it might be better if venues were allowed to set thier own policy and create smoking/non-smoking areas on thier own. i.e. at the 9:30 club main room nonsmoking backbar smoking, same with the Black Cat, i'd just spend very little time in the Red Room.
weed is one thing. i doubt they'd ever outlaw cigs at the clubs, but you never know. regardless of whether cigarettes in general bother me or not, it is understandable that people would want to smoke at a show. just, please don't be an ass about it. it annoys the piss out of me when i'm waiting in between bands and two guys come up and completely blow smoke all over your face. it's always fun to yell "IT SMELLS LIKE LUNG CANCER IN HERE!" and walk away.
But the ostensible reason for the smoking ban is not to protect the health of the patrons but the health of the workers. Having special permits, etc doesn't address that concern. About the only thing that would would be having a special ventilated room that employees would not be required to enter (sorta like those horrible airport smoking lounges).
As as a sidebar: I was in SF earlier this year and there are a small handful of bars where smoking is allowed because the only people that work there are also owners. Nice little loophole.
As as a sidebar: I was in SF earlier this year and there are a small handful of bars where smoking is allowed because the only people that work there are also owners. Nice little loophole.
I must say, if I have the choice between seeing a show at 9:30 or the NorVa (supposing they're both on favorable nights of the week), I'll always take NorVa since they don't allow smoking on the bottom 2 floors.
well, right, but duh health should be an issue. i obviously subject myself to this when i decide to go to a show; but i mean, look at me. i've never smoked anything in my life, and never will. and i probably already have shitty lungs just from going to all the shows that i do. it sucks.
but music isn't something i am going to give up just because of some secondhand smoke.
but music isn't something i am going to give up just because of some secondhand smoke.
Originally posted by you be betty:15? Call me later, we'll talk. ;)
(and only straightedge as far as drugs and smoking go!)
I know I am very picky about what shows i see at smoking venues because of the smoking. Making clubs non-smoking would certainly make this thrift store bought tan JCrew khaki pants wearing nonsmoker/Kerry voter inclined to attend more shows.
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
I must say, if I have the choice between seeing a show at 9:30 or the NorVa (supposing they're both on favorable nights of the week), I'll always take NorVa since they don't allow smoking on the bottom 2 floors.
can we make a trade, ban tobacco smoking in public places and legalize marijuana for personal use in the home, pretty please, thanks
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:i'm not sure whether to laugh, or run away crying. i hope you aren't 40!
Originally posted by you be betty:15? Call me later, we'll talk. ;)
(and only straightedge as far as drugs and smoking go!)
(okay, okay. i'm laughing.)
Originally posted by you be betty:I'm entirely joking. See the thread where Sonick is taking his girlfriend to see Coheed…
i'm not sure whether to laugh, or run away crying. i hope you aren't 40!
(okay, okay. i'm laughing.)
Originally posted by p011@rd:Excellent request :cool:
can we make a trade, ban tobacco smoking in public places and legalize marijuana for personal use in the home, pretty please, thanks
Originally posted by SPARX:yeah that doesn't sound half bad
Originally posted by p011@rd:Excellent request :cool:
can we make a trade, ban tobacco smoking in public places and legalize marijuana for personal use in the home, pretty please, thanks
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:link me?
Originally posted by you be betty:I'm entirely joking. See the thread where Sonick is taking his girlfriend to see Coheed…
i'm not sure whether to laugh, or run away crying. i hope you aren't 40!
(okay, okay. i'm laughing.)
i really hate Coheed, too. that guys voice really irritates me.
Show your elders some respect. I'm much better looking than your average 16 year old boy, even if my car isn't as nice as the cars your 16 year old classmates at Bethesda HS drive.
And I have heard that Kosmo, who is over 40, gets hit on all the time when he is wearing his skirt.
And I have heard that Kosmo, who is over 40, gets hit on all the time when he is wearing his skirt.
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:i'm not sure whether to laugh, or run away crying. i hope you aren't 40!
Originally posted by you be betty:15? Call me later, we'll talk. ;)
(and only straightedge as far as drugs and smoking go!)
(okay, okay. i'm laughing.)
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:ha ha ha ha ha ha ha cars. remember when they put that bentley dealership in downtown bethesda? i remember that.
Show your elders some respect. I'm much better looking than your average 16 year old boy, even if my car isn't as nice as the cars your 16 year old classmates at Bethesda HS drive.
And I have heard that Kosmo, who is over 40, gets hit on all the time when he is wearing his skirt.
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:i'm not sure whether to laugh, or run away crying. i hope you aren't 40!
Originally posted by you be betty:15? Call me later, we'll talk. ;)
(and only straightedge as far as drugs and smoking go!)
(okay, okay. i'm laughing.)
and Kosmo rules. i totally respect you guys to the max.
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]: Yeah, I've seen this at a few places before. I can understand no water going in, but why the heck would they have a problem with water going out? :confused:Because they have no guarantee it's just water. For all they know, you poured your gin and tonic in the water bottle and are trying to leave with it.
So I was in San Francisco this summer and the amount of pot smoking that was going on in clubs, bars, and on the street was just weird. One club (Zeitgeist?) was like a dead show. I like not having so much of that crap going on here.