<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dandy01:<BR><B>3 for Moz/0 for Robert. Aww..</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>the smiths splitting up meant they couldnt sully their good name by half hearted low quality come back albums.<P>thank god.
Ottobar tonight
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jadetree:<BR><B>I just discovered that Finn performs it with Marr on Finn's live cd, 7 Worlds Collide.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hum, I dont normally like "live" videos. That might be worth getting though….<P>Ow, by the way anyone got any tick repellant?<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> the smiths splitting up meant they couldnt sully their good name by half hearted low quality come back albums.<P>thank god.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>yeah, I personally prefer Staring at the Sea: The Singles; from there, it goes downhill.<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dandy01:<BR><B>3 for Moz/0 for Robert. Aww..</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'll throw in one for Mr. Smith. Disintegration = greatest album ever.<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> $35 for soft cell would be money much better spent than $100 or more on McCartney. <BR>Both acts are well past their sell by date apparently.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>McCartney is McCartney, the Beatles are the Beatles, McCartney is NOT the Beatles… thats like saying Morrisey playing Smiths songs is the Smiths..<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fico:<BR><B> McCartney is McCartney, the Beatles are the Beatles, McCartney is NOT the Beatles… thats like saying Morrisey playing Smiths songs is the Smiths..<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>so the Beatles like the smiths and clash split up before their work decended into rubbish.<P>Of that we can be thankful.<P>So what. <P>The beatles still say nothing to me about my life.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by not too shabby:<BR><B> I'll throw in one for Mr. Smith. Disintegration = greatest album ever.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>but its not even as good as kiss me kiss me kiss me.<P>Shame on you.<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR><P>The beatles still say nothing to me about my life.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It's hard when yer a manchild with a torn on your side…<P><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> The beatles still say nothing to me about my life.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Since when is that a measure of good song writing? What does Beethoven say to you about your life?<P>To ignore the impact the Beatles and their body of work has had on the music industry and all bands after them (including the Smiths) would be extremely narrow-minded. They were innovative and influential in a way the Smiths could never even dream of achieving. Hell, I am sure I listen to the Smiths a good bit more often than the Beatles.. but that doesn't make them a better band.
I think this whole agrument goes back to the Oasis-sshole quote that if they were around first in the 60's they would have been bigger than the Beatles. If the Beatles had not kicked up the singer-songwriter market to the level it became, and the hysteria for British bands, the Smiths might never have formed. Definitely true for Oasis.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> but its not even as good as kiss me kiss me kiss me.<P>Shame on you.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Nope, Disintegration is much better, and I will not be shamed.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by not too shabby:<BR><B> Nope, Disintegration is much better, and I will not be shamed.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Tell you what.. you put "Galore" against any of the "Best of Smiths" compilations and its definitely a toss up..they both amassed an outstanding body of work that at least to my ears still sound as fresh and relevant as 10 years ago…<P>Not to mention that Galore doesn't include gems included in other compilations such as staring at the sea…<P>
When I think of The Cure……..It always comes back to "Pornography"……love that damn album……and I saw 'em about half a dozen times for other albums……none compared……
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback:<BR><B> They were innovative and influential in a way the Smiths could never even dream of achieving. <P>vs<P>Hell, I am sure I listen to the Smiths a good bit more often than the Beatles.. but that doesn't make them a better band.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So the smiths are directly more influential on you than the Beatles.<P>That was the point I was making. <P>WELL DONE,<P>fool.<BR>
The tour for The Top back at the old Ontario Theatre was a damn fine show.'84 I believe.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fico:<BR><B> Tell you what.. you put "Galore" against any of the "Best of Smiths" compilations and its definitely a toss up<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>But the difference not conveyed by this is that all of the smiths songs are of a consistent good quality. Virtually every track could be a single. Infact I defy you to name one that couldnt, other than the rather obvious choice of the two instrumentals.<P>The cure on the other hand had plenty of filler and album tracks of a considerably lower quality.
Ah, but everyone stumbles a few times on the way to greatness.<P>I wouldn't say that every track on every Smiths album is single-worthy, either, but that's just my opinion.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by not too shabby:<BR><B><P>I wouldn't say that every track on every Smiths album is single-worthy, either, but that's just my opinion.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>name one!!!<P>(not oscillate wildly or Draize train or golden lights)
Well, for one, I will skip "I know it's over" 7 times out of 10, if I'm near the "next" button. I just find it to be sort of boring. <P>There are Cure songs that I would skip, too. I can't think of any band that puts out 100 percent greatness, every single time.<P>Maybe I'm just impatient. I have a habit of skipping through things to get to other things. Maybe I'm just that excited to get to the rest of the fabulous songs on the album?
While the production is more detailed than before, the Smiths are at their best when they stick to their strengths â?? "The Headmaster Ritual" and "I Want the One I Can't Have" are fine elaborations of the formula they laid out on the debut, while "Rusholme Ruffians" is an infectious stab at rockabilly. However, the rest of Meat Is Murder is muddled, repeating lyrical and musical ideas of before without significantly expanding them or offering enough hooks or melodies to make it the equal of The Smiths or Hatful of Hollow.