Top Five All-Time Greatest Debut Albums

I guess that's how fucked up the masses tastes have become. If this were 1977, Drive By Truckers would be huge, huge, huge. Not that they don't appeal to the masses anyway, nearly selling out the 9:30 Club. If they were on a major label and received the right promotion, they'd be as big as Radiohead in America.

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
not that we need another opinion, but someone on the board sent me a DBT Cd, and i appreciate it very much, that they did that. But i listened to it once, and couldnt find any reason to listen to it again, unless i wanted to listen to something and not have to pay attn to it.

clearly not my style of music, and not a band to win over the masses. but that doesnt mean they are bad….sort of.

but you took the opportunity to say something negative about DBT on the FF thread…

…not that there's anything wrong with it. I found your comment very entertaining, despite disagreeing with it…

Originally posted by joz:
in my defense, let me say that i DID NOT post anything negative or inflammatory on the DBT thread…that's for the fans to share their thoughts on the show, etc. i merely made a statement on the fiery furnaces thread which rhett, of course, had to chime in on and continues to drag out here. oy vey.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
If this were 1977, Drive By Truckers would be huge, huge, huge.

I'm not so sure about that:

The Top 40 Singles of 1977:

"You Light Up My Life" - Debby Boone (First chart appearance: 9/17/77; Highest position: #1)
"I Just Want To Be Your Everything" - Andy Gibb (5/28/77; #1)
"Evergreen" - Barbra Streisand (1/8/77; #1)
"Undercover Angel" - Alan O'Day (5/7/77; #1)
"I Like Dreamin'" - Kenny Nolan (12/11/76; #3)
"Dancing Queen" - Abba (1/22/77; #1)
"Torn Between Two Lovers" - Mary MacGregor (12/25/76; #1)
"Higher And Higher" - Rita Coolidge (6/11/77; #2)
"Best Of My Love" - The Emotions (7/2/77; #1)
"Southern Nights" - Glen Campbell (3/5/77; #1)
"Angel In Your Arms" - Hot (4/2/77; #6)
"Don't Leave Me This Way" - Thelma Houston (1/29/77; #1)
"I'm Your Boogie Man" - K.C. & the Sunshine Band (4/2/77; #1)
"Margaritaville" - Jimmy Buffett (5/7/77; #8)
"When I Need You" - Leo Sayer (3/26/77; #1)
"Telephone Line" - Electric Light Orchestra (7/9/77; #7)
"Rich Girl" - Hall and Oates (2/5/77; #1)
"Slow Dancin'" - Johnny Rivers (7/30/77; #10)
"Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band" - Meco (8/22/77; #1)
"Rocky (Gonna Fly Now)" - Bill Conti (5/7/77; #1)
"Things We Do For Love" - 10cc (1/29/77; #5)
"Weekend In New England" - Barry Manilow (12/25/76; #10)
"Hotel California" - Eagles (3/12/77; #1)
"You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" - Leo Sayer (11/6/76; #1)
"Nobody Does It Better" - Carly Simon (8/27/77; #2)
"Whatcha Gonna Do" - Pablo Cruise (6/11/77; #6)
"I've Got Love On My Mind" - Natalie Cole (2/26/77; #5)
"On And On" - Stephen Bishop (7/23/77; #11)
"Do You Wanna Make Love" - Peter McCann (5/21/77; #5)
"Sir Duke" - Stevie Wonder (4/16/77; #1)
"Got To Give It Up" - Marvin Gaye (4/23/77; #1)
"Dreams" - Fleetwood Mac (4/30/77; #1)
"Carry On Wayward Son" - Kansas (2/5/77; #11)
"Easy" - Commodores (6/25/77; #4)
"Lonely Boy" - Andrew Gold (4/16/77; #7)
"Feels Like The First Time" - Foreigner (4/23/77; #4)
"You And Me" - Alice Cooper (6/11/77; #9)
"Car Wash" - Rose Royce (12/11/76; #1)
"Keep It Comin' Love" - K.C. & the Sunshine Band (8/13/77; #2)
"Don't Give Up On Us" - David Soul (2/19/77; #1)


Top Albums of 1977:


At The Hollywood Bowl - The Beatles
Barry Manilow/Live - Barry Manilow
Book Of Dreams - The Steve Miller Band
Boston *
Commodores
Hotel California - Eagles *
Live At The London Paladium - Marvin Gaye
A New World Record - Electric Light Orchestra *
Night Moves - Bob Seger *
Part 3 - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
Point Of Know Return - Kansas
Rumours - Fleetwood Mac *
Silk Degrees - Boz Scaggs
Simple Dreams - Linda Ronstadt *
A Star Is Born - Soundtrack

Oasis - Definitely Maybe
Stone Roses - Stone Roses
Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
New Radicals - Maybe you've been Brainwashed Too
Cartel - yet to be recorded or released.

We made it…last ones on the list :p

http://mp3.washingtonpost.com/picks/

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
If this were 1977, Drive By Truckers would be huge, huge, huge.

I get the feeling that if it were 1977, they would top your list of overrated bands.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:

"Telephone Line" - Electric Light Orchestra (7/9/77; #7)

I used to LOVE that song.

Barry Manilow/Live - Barry Manilow

A classic, if only for the Commercial Medley.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
but you took the opportunity to say something negative about DBT on the FF thread…

I get Joz's point, though – he/she's not hiding dislike for DBT, but not trashing them in a thread obviously for fans to talk about the show, etc. I try to do the same thing – not sure I'm always successful, but is there any need for me to dump on superchunk in a thread on them specifically, just to say "I think superchunk suck." Now, in a thread on the best albums where a discussion of superchunk comes up, different story 'cuz we're discussing bands generally.

So the rule is we're only supposed to say positive things on a thread about a specific band?

Originally posted by Bags:
sure I'm always successful, but is there any need for me to dump on superchunk in a thread on them specifically, just to say "I think superchunk suck." [/QB]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
not that we need another opinion, but someone on the board sent me a DBT Cd, and i appreciate it very much, that they did that. But i listened to it once, and couldnt find any reason to listen to it again, unless i wanted to listen to something and not have to pay attn to it.

clearly not my style of music, and not a band to win over the masses. but that doesnt mean they are bad….sort of.

Good, you can send it to me….

10 bucks says you'll hate it.

Originally posted by redsock:

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
not that we need another opinion, but someone on the board sent me a DBT Cd, and i appreciate it very much, that they did that. But i listened to it once, and couldnt find any reason to listen to it again, unless i wanted to listen to something and not have to pay attn to it.

clearly not my style of music, and not a band to win over the masses. but that doesnt mean they are bad….sort of.

Good, you can send it to me….

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
10 bucks says you'll hate it.

Originally posted by redsock:

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
not that we need another opinion, but someone on the board sent me a DBT Cd, and i appreciate it very much, that they did that. But i listened to it once, and couldnt find any reason to listen to it again, unless i wanted to listen to something and not have to pay attn to it.

clearly not my style of music, and not a band to win over the masses. but that doesnt mean they are bad….sort of.

Good, you can send it to me….

I happen to like a good dose of southern-fried rock now and again. I honestly have never listened to DBT, but I'll take that bet. My musical tastes are far more diverse than yours i imagine.

Originally posted by joz:
…i realize that even crappy bands need fans too. how would groups like color me badd go on to create such timeless classics as "i wanna sex you up" without a strong fanbase to support them?

I wonder how much you would like them (DBT) if they looked & dressed like Interpol and lived in NY - instead of wearing flannel shirts, drinking PBR & living in GA.

I think you're being strongly influenced by something in addition to the music. DBT is much too closely related to a band like Wilco for you to love one & hate the other. (I'm not mistaking your affection for Wilco with someone else am I?)

Id have to think for a while to get my Top 5 but here are some noteworthy debut releases that I didnt see while glancing at the other posts:

Rites of Spring-Rites of Spring
Bad Brains-ROIR cassette
Slayer-Show No Mercy
Toadies-Rubberneck
Shudder to Think-Curses Spells Voodoo Mooses
Run DMC-Run DMC
Jesus Lizard-Goat
The Polyphonic Spree-The Beginning Stages Of…
Nirvana-Bleach
Bloodrock-Bloodrock
Wesley Willis-Radiohead
Schoolly-D-Saturday Night The Album
Kings X-Out of the Silent Planet
Masters Of Reality-Masters of Reality (Def American version NOT Delicious Vinyl version)
Ween-The Pod

Hunter

Originally posted by grotty:

Originally posted by joz:
…i realize that even crappy bands need fans too. how would groups like color me badd go on to create such timeless classics as "i wanna sex you up" without a strong fanbase to support them?

I wonder how much you would like them (DBT) if they looked & dressed like Interpol and lived in NY - instead of wearing flannel shirts, drinking PBR & living in GA.

I think you're being strongly influenced by something in addition to the music. DBT is much too closely related to a band like Wilco for you to love one & hate the other. (I'm not mistaking your affection for Wilco with someone else am I?)

you've brought up a good point, grotty…i definitely don't have a standard prescription for my musical tastes. i do love wilco. i also dig whiskeytown (although i despise the majority of ryan adams solo work), my morning jacket, rockabilly in general, et al. in fact, i will go as far to admit that i really enjoy classic southern rock…i enjoy a good healthy dose of the allman bros., skynyrd or molly hatchet once in a while. BUT I do not care for DBT. Call me crazy but their music is really unlistenable for me. I think sonick put it best earlier when he referred to it as background music that you really don't take notice of (I'm paraphrasing here).

Anyway, that's all I'll say about that…I'm used to this really. My husband is a huge fan of the Afghan Whigs, whom I despise (with the exception of 1 or 2 songs), so I'm constantly defending my dislike of particular bands.

btw, PBR is one of my favorite beers.

Now you're really going to rile Grotty up!

And perhaps a few other board members too.

Hell, you might as well say you dislike Guided by Voices, the Pixies, and Ian McKaye while you're at it. Troublemaker!

Originally posted by joz:


My husband is a huge fan of the Afghan Whigs, whom I despise (with the exception of 1 or 2 songs),

btw, PBR is one of my favorite beers. [/QB]

Originally posted by joz:
you've brought up a good point, grotty…i definitely don't have a standard prescription for my musical tastes. i do love wilco. i also dig whiskeytown (although i despise the majority of ryan adams solo work), my morning jacket, rockabilly in general, et al. in fact, i will go as far to admit that i really enjoy classic southern rock…i enjoy a good healthy dose of the allman bros., skynyrd or molly hatchet once in a while. BUT I do not care for DBT. Call me crazy but their music is really unlistenable for me.

Anyway, that's all I'll say about that…I'm used to this really. My husband is a huge fan of the Afghan Whigs, whom I despise (with the exception of 1 or 2 songs), so I'm constantly defending my dislike of particular bands.

2 of my favorite bands getting disparaged in the same paragraph. It is a sad day indeed. :(

joz, I've seen you list bands that you love (verve, g&r, whiskeytown, wilco, etc.) and we mostly agree. That makes it all the more strange that you would dislike DBT & the AW. It makes me wonder if you've heard the "right" songs or ever seen them live. There have been countless people that I've given music to from both bands that initially are not interested. But after seeing them live, or investing some time into listening, now have significantly different opinions.

One person specifically - a female - was initally very resistant to the whole southern rednecky DBT image. Then she heard the song Three Great Alabama Icons from the Southern Rock Opera and almost immediately changed her mind. Now they are a fav. That 'song', better than anything they have written or has been written about them - explains their perspective and is good example of the depth of their thinking and songwriting that is disguised behind a very misleading first impression:
"Such is the duality of the Southern thing."

But, I'm guessing that you probably do already know enough about DBT & the Afghan Whigs (especially living with a big fan) and maybe they really just don't appeal to you. It's probably just a perfect example of how fickle and esoteric musical tastes can be.

I just hope that someday you don't regret missing out on 2 of the best bands…ever. :D

funny thing about my dislike for the whigs, i know…my husband doesn't get it either. greg dulli bothers me for some reason; his vocal style in particular. i do care for a few songs but i can't say i would ever sit down and listen to an entire album on my own volition. my husband has played most of their albums for me and i've also tried listening to the twilight singers. no luck there either.

my husband saw the whigs live a couple of times and said that seeing dulli perform live might change my opinion. unfortunately, we always seem to be out of town when the twilight singers play. maybe someday they'll click for me. it took me a long time to come around to neutral milk hotel too but now they're one of my favorites.

i definitely wouldn't describe myself as fickle though…i'm a fairly discerning listener and can usually tell whether i'll like a band/album within 10-15 minutes of listening. that all goes back to working in program/music direction at my college radio station…we had about 10 minutes to devote to each promo cd we got in the mail to determine if it was worthy of airplay. i know i need to try and break myself of that. there's probably a lot i miss out on because i don't put in the time to give a fair listen.

i'm really trying with the whigs tho…if i liked them, it would certainly make marriage a lot easier!