Any porsche drivers?

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Q: What's the difference between and porcupine and a Porsche?

A: The porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

I drive a VW, it's the same as a Porsche, only slower and not as nice and you can't attract women in it…

Did I mention that it has a CD player and dual beverage holders?

Originally posted by Shadrach:
I drive a VW, it's the same as a Porsche, only slower and not as nice and you can't attract women in it…

Did I mention that it has a CD player and dual beverage holders?

Flower holder or no flower holder?

Originally posted by Sir HC:

Originally posted by Shadrach:
I drive a VW, it's the same as a Porsche, only slower and not as nice and you can't attract women in it…

Did I mention that it has a CD player and dual beverage holders?

Flower holder or no flower holder?

It's a Jetta, so it doesn't come with the flower holder.

Originally posted by Shadrach:
I drive a VW, it's the same as a Porsche, only slower and not as nice and you can't attract women in it…

A vw is the same as a Porsche huh? Is that what you tell the chicks in the bar?

For that last fucking]/b] time, here's the story regarding the relationship between VW and Porsche….

In many ways the Porsche resembles the beetle-shaped Volkswagen. It should, since it is a direct descendant; but its heritage goes back almost to the beginnings of the automobile age. The Porsche is the distilled essence of almost fifty years of success, failure, and experimentation. One might say that the modern Porsche really began in 1902 when Dr. Ferdinand Porsche built his first car. That car was the Lohner electric. It was quite remarkable because of its method of power transmission. A gasoline engine drove a generator which supplied power to electric motors mounted right on the wheel hubs! What is important about this type of drive is that it showed Porsche's early preoccupation with power transmission. He always wanted the power as close to the driving wheels as possible, a system which does away with long drive shafts. This thinking is reflected in both the Volkswagen and Porsche cars which have the engines mounted adjacent to the driving rear axle.

After building the Lohner, Dr. Porsche moved ahead rapidly. He has had a hand in the design of more cars and components than possibly any other engineer. Following the Lohner he designed or improved cars for Panhard, Austro-Daimler, Mercedes-Benz, Auto-Union, Volkswagen, Renault, and Cisitalia. Many of his innovations are used throughout the entire industry. Torsion-bar suspension, swing axles, the opposed cylinder engine, and the entire rear-engine concept were either developed or improved on the drawing board of Ferdinand Porsche. Yet it was not until 1947 that a car bore his name.

If we are to call the Porsche the son of Volkswagen, we should also mention that much of the engineering was done by Dr. Porsche's own son, Ferry. In 1930 Dr. Porsche formed his own engi neering'firm, and young Ferry joined it as soon as he could qualify. It was during the great turmoil that accompanied the design of the Volkswagen during the late thirties that Porsche conceived the idea of a sports-type Volkswagen. During 1938 he worked out the exact plans. The car was to be similar to the VW in every way except the frame and body. It would use a V W engine, but highly modified to provide more power. Transmission and running gear were to be the same except for higher stressing to handle the stronger thrust. Shortly before World War II this car was actually constructed and tested, but the plans were laid aside due to the military emergency.

Just before the end of the war Allied forces discovered the Wolfsburg factory where the VW's were built. A further search led to the seventy-year old Dr. Porsche at Gmund in southern Austria. The British army interned him in his own house until the French requested his services. These services were to be in the form of assistance in the design of a small rear-engined Renault. Porsche's knowledge of rear-engine design was invaluable to the Renault firm, and the car they finally built with his aid is the familiar 4-CV. But the war was a bitter experience, and the French authorities regarded him as an enemy. Porsche was jailed in 1945 and remained in the custody of the French until 1947. Ferry Porsche petitioned time and time again for the old man's release, and finally the French agreed - if a bond of one million francs would be posted. This was well beyond the means of the family, but it was Dr. Porsche's reputation that finally freed him. Somebody wanted him to build a car. It was Piero Dusio, former racing driver and head of the Cisitalia firm. Dusio guaranteed the bond because he wanted Porsche to design a racing car.

His health broken, but still full of automotive ideas, Dr. Porsche returned to his home and designed the Cisitalia. Ferry had already done the basic work and his father added the refinements. Like every other car he created, the Cisitalia was full of innovations. It was designed to conform to the 1.5-liter racing formula of the time, but its tiny twelve-cylinder engine was capable of developing 450 horsepower. The engine was rear mounted, of course, but the truly startling idea was a four-wheel drive! This was unheard of on a racing car, but no one could protest against the sure-footed traction of four driving wheels. In addition the front-wheel drive could be cut in and out at the driver's will. The Cisitalia firm moved to Argentina shortly after the car was built, and the machine was never seriously raced.

The short-lived Cisitalia episode served a fine purpose. It started Dr. Porsche on the road to his own sports car. The first Porsche was produced in 1947 and exhibited to the public in 1949. It has been a success ever since. In 1950, at the age of seventy-five, Dr. Porsche died. This was a man whose career began shortly after the beginnings- of the automobile; a man whose engineering genius was applied to almost every phase of the development of the automobile; a man who will not be forgotten because of the automobile that bears his name.


BTW…Porsche were a major factor in the design for the Harley Davidson V-Rod…does that make a Harley the same as a Porsche? :roll:

I drive a Corolla…pretty much the same thing as a Porsche but with better gas mileage.

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I drive a Civic hatchback. It's like an SUV, only smaller. And it gets 35 MPG.

I drive a Mazda3, it's like a Corvette only bigger. And bigger is better.

There are a lot more recent links between VW and Porsche:

The last VW boss was Ferdinand Piech who was Ferdinand Porsche's grandson.

Porsche just made a major investment in VW: http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/panamera/

They have collaborated on vehicles a few times most notably the Porsche 924: a crappy car with a crappy VW engine and more recently the toureg.

But a jetta is about as close to a porsche as a a ford escort.

Wow, clearly the concept of sarcasm is lost on some people.

Originally posted by Shadrach:
Wow, clearly the concept of sarcasm is lost on some people.

I can only speak for myself, but quite the contrary actually.

Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:

Originally posted by Shadrach:
Wow, clearly the concept of sarcasm is lost on some people.

I can only speak for myself, but quite the contrary actually.

Not quite sure I know what you're saying here? I get your claim to be in the know when it comes to sarcasm, but are you saying that sarcasm is never lost on "some" people?

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I had no idea Porsches were so popular in South Carolina. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Beets, do you really have a Civic that old? That's an awesome car. I had an 88 Civic and it lasted 15 years before I finally got rid of it. Loved that car.

The VW Jetta is basically a Porsche with a different skin. They are built on the same assembly line in Wolfsburg. They take a Porsche engine, file the Porsche ID info off it, re-stamp it with VW information, and drop it into a Jetta body. You get yourself a VW Jetta V6 GLI, you can take on any but the top of the line Porsche at a light and win. Same suspension system too, tweaked a bit for the Jetta's larger size. Porsche downplays this information because they need the volume sales that VW production affords, but don't want to lose their niche market.

By the way, if you want to see a real asshole, look at the driver of a Porsche SUV.

Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
Beets, do you really have a Civic that old? That's an awesome car. I had an 88 Civic and it lasted 15 years before I finally got rid of it. Loved that car.

Nah, not nearly that old, just a decrepit '91. I just liked that pic a lot more. Check out those whitewalls…

D'oh! I didn't notice the whitewalls before, that's hilarious!

Just to warn you, when I finally decided to sell my '88 Civic, I couldn't find a buyer at any price… I finally donated it to Goodwill for a tax deduction…

Your sarcasm was indeed lost on me, but in my defence I sold Porsche's for over 10 years (before defecting to Ferrari/Maserati) and if I had a $1 for everytime some prick made the "Porsche is just an overpriced VW really" I would be up with Bill Gates in the bank account stakes! I personally think Porsche took a major step in the wrong direction with the introduction of the water cooled 996, then totally lost the plot with the Cayenne. Porsche's finances will disagree with me, but I'm strictly speaking out of nostalga. When this business makes me rich I will buy a 993 as a toy, because I still think it's the most enjoyable sports car to drive, (if you know how to drive it) and I would also buy a Maserati Quattroporte as the family car.

The reality is, if you drive a car that's less than 10 years old, Porsche most likely had something to do with it's development, they r&d for just about every manufacture out there.

Whatever, there's only one vehicle worth its weight….

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