sonickteam2
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Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 07:58 PM UTC
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An Historic Community
A Historic Community
or both?
pjrudolph
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 08:00 PM UTC
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I would say "A" but I think either one is correct.
RatBastard
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 08:00 PM UTC
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An… Its an exception to the rule. The leading 'H' has a vowel sound so to speak and thus calls for an instead of a.
sonickteam2
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 08:07 PM UTC
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ok ok
dr. grammer says
A or An?
According to The Oxford Dictionary of American Usage and Style, "The indefinite article a is used before words beginning with a consonant sound, including /y/ and /w/ sounds. The other form, an, is used before words beginning with a vowel sound. Hence, a European country, a Ouija board, a uniform, an FBI agent, an MBA degree, an SEC filing. Writers on usage formerly disputed whether the correct article is a or an with historian, historic, and a few other words. The traditional rule is that if the h- is sounded, a is the proper form. Most people following that rule would say a historian and a historic–e.g.:'Democrat Bill Clinton appears within reach of capturing the White House in Tuesday's election, but Republicans hope that late momentum, can enable President Bush to win a historic upset' (Dallas Morning News). Even H.W. Fowler, in the England of 1926, advocated a before historic(al) and humble (MEU1).
The theory behind using an in such a context, however, is that the h- is very weak when the accent is on the second rather than the first syllable (giving rise, by analogy, to an habitual offender, an humanitarian, an hallucinatory image, and an harassed schoolteacher). Thus no authority countenances an history[emphasis added], though a few older ones prefer an historian and an historical.
Today, however, an hypothesis and an historical are likely to strike readers and listeners as affectations. As Mark Twain once wrote, referring to humble, heroic, and historical: 'Correct writers of the American language do not put an before those words' (The Stolen White Elephant,1882). Anyone who sounds the h- in such words should avoid pretense and use a (Garner 1).
walkonby
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 08:13 PM UTC
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how about "the historic community"?
bags
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 09:15 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
The traditional rule is that if the h- is sounded, a is the proper form. Most people following that rule would say a historian and a historic–e.g.:'Democrat Bill Clinton appears within reach of capturing the White House in Tuesday's election, but Republicans hope that late momentum, can enable President Bush to win a historic upset' (Dallas Morning News).
This is what I was taught for public speaking. And you use the long "A" in speech before the h word.
By the way, that example sentence has an errant comma in it. Good job, Dallas!
pjrudolph
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 09:19 PM UTC
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Nice! I got it right. was just a lucky guess.
Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
The traditional rule is that if the h- is sounded, a is the proper form.
bags
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Re: Grammar Test
October 11, 2005 at 10:07 PM UTC
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-edit- Odd double post….sorry
RatBastard
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Re: Grammar Test
October 12, 2005 at 02:10 AM UTC
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An is still correct over A.
lwoxley
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Re: Grammar Test
October 12, 2005 at 08:43 AM UTC
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How about this one!
An Post
Right or wrong…or both?
smakawhat
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Re: Grammar Test
October 12, 2005 at 03:05 PM UTC
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how about a hysterectomy?
lwoxley
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Re: Grammar Test
October 12, 2005 at 03:41 PM UTC
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a hymn?
lwoxley
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Re: Grammar Test
October 12, 2005 at 03:43 PM UTC
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a he
a him
a her
a horse
a house
a horrible experience
a high
a hot cup of coffee
a huge hill
a hill
a home
the list is endless…….
grateful
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Re: Grammar Test
September 12, 2016 at 07:22 PM UTC
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bob72
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Re: Grammar Test
September 12, 2016 at 11:19 PM UTC
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Bob the substitute Home Ec teacher comes into my kitchen and wants to borrow a egg.
grateful
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Re: Grammar Test
September 13, 2016 at 02:58 PM UTC
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If you don't want it sunny-side up, I can make it over easy.