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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.

Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.

"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, … the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.

"We are not five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."

This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.

The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."

The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.

Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.
and they say there is a LEFT-wing bias in the media… oh, wait, the URL explains it all.
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
long live facts!

an equally unbiased, scientific version of the truth available here. thank goodness someone eventually got it right.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
and they say there is a LEFT-wing bias in the media… oh, wait, the URL explains it all.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.
Originally posted by sweetcell:
long live facts!

an equally unbiased, scientific version of the truth available here. thank goodness someone eventually got it right.
I don't see any numbers or statistics on rates of immigrant crime v. Iraqi war KIAs in your link? Argumentum ad Invidiam.
Hmmm….

~16,000 murders in the US every year.

50.0 percent are committed by blacks
47.6 percent are committed by whites
2.4 percent were committed by other races

90% of all illegal aliens in the US are from Latin America, a group that apparently only kills a portion of 2.4% of all murders in the US.

FBI Crime Stats

And this study claims that 13% are committed by illegal aliens?

Something doesn't add up my friend.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Originally posted by vansmack:
Hmmm….

~16,000 murders in the US every year.

50.0 percent are committed by blacks
47.6 percent are committed by whites
2.4 percent were committed by other races

90% of all illegal aliens in the US are from Latin America, a group that apparently only kills a portion of 2.4% of all murders in the US.

FBI Crime Stats

And this study claims that 13% are committed by illegal aliens?

Something doesn't add up my friend.
That's 3 years old.

Btw, arguing with vansmack is more fun.
When I first read this thread title, I though you were talking about aliens from outter space.
i'm curious as to what percentage of those "americans" killed are other illegal aliens?
I tried to get more info from that FAMILY MATTERS site, but got nothing. I guess that's a bad sign. Still, until I see the 2006 FBI uniform crime stats..?

Don't ever quote those missing black on white rape stats, because those have since been removed by the FBI because of political inconvenience.
Take that, vansmack!
Originally posted by kosmo:
i'm curious as to what percentage of those "americans" killed are other illegal aliens?
I'm glad you axed.

"illegal aliens are often silent on family violence and afraid to report crime within their communities"

source
Originally posted by vansmack:
FBI Crime Stats

And this study claims that 13% are committed by illegal aliens?

Something doesn't add up my friend.
That something is that the study doesn't specify murders for a one year period, but all illegal alien murders total. One year of FBI stats is meaningless. Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.
Originally posted by Dudek Chakra:
]That's 3 years old.

If they're using any actual numbers at all, I'd be shocked if they were from 2006. There is a small possiblilty that they're using 2005 crime numbers, but I doubt that as well.

Even if they are using 2006 numbers, it would seem that the proposed increase from 2000-2004 numbers seems quite high to be believable.
Table 2.3
Murder Victims
by Race and Sex, 2004

Sex
Race Total Male Female Unknown
White 6,929 5,031 1,896 2
Black 6,632 5,562 1,067 3
Other 365 269 95 1
Unknown 195 128 41 26
Total 14,121 10,990 3,099 32


Acorrding to the FBI numbers, hispanics, whether legal or not, don't commit ANY murder!
Something doesn't add up my friend.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Hmmm….

~16,000 murders in the US every year.

50.0 percent are committed by blacks
47.6 percent are committed by whites
2.4 percent were committed by other races

90% of all illegal aliens in the US are from Latin America, a group that apparently only kills a portion of 2.4% of all murders in the US.

FBI Crime Stats

And this study claims that 13% are committed by illegal aliens?

Something doesn't add up my friend.
Table 2.3
Murder Victims
by Race and Sex, 2004

Sex
Race Total Male Female Unknown
White 6,929 5,031 1,896 2
Black 6,632 5,562 1,067 3
Other 365 269 95 1
Unknown 195 128 41 26
Total 14,121 10,990 3,099 32


Acorrding to the FBI numbers you provided vansmack, hispanics, whether legal or not, don't seem to commit ANY murders at all!

Something doesn't add up my friend.

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I wanted this all in one poast, but some genius trimmed the edit feature…go figure!?!
Illegal aliens? Time to call Fox Mulder!!