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Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox

alex
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 01:06 AM UTC #
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
hot hot heat?
lol
Barcelona
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 01:31 AM UTC #
I didn't like Pearl Jam, but I am starting to like them now that it is mentioned that they care about global warming.
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 05:42 PM UTC #
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
not trying to be a dick, but i worked on this stuff:

http://newsroom.wri.org/mediakits_contents.cfm?MediaKitID=1
Itâ??s true, you donâ??t have to work very hard in trying to be a dick. Thanks for all of the scholarly critiques you referenced! Have you read much E.O.Wilson? Itâ??s nice to see you professionally contributing to the discourse at hand. Iâ??m sure that your scientific credentials are more than sterlingâ?¦what are your scientific credentials, btw?

You can massage the data all that you wish. That will not change the fact that the theory of global warming due to the intervention of homo sapiens is unproven. And it will not change the fact that rock stars are self indulgent glory hounds who like to preen and polish their own facades with the blood of starving Ethiopians. Yeah, right, Phil Collins really cares about starving skeletons. Thatâ??s why he flew the Concorde so he could play in Philadelphia. I wonder how much carbon dioxide Live Aid generated? Save the whales, save those snails! Blame George Harrison for spawning phony rock star â??global awarenessâ??. Yeah, Pearl Jam are really sharing and caring dudes. Did you notice the hatâ?¦genuine hemp fiber. Those dudes really care a lot about the environment. When they tour Shangai next year they are gonna use rickshaws instead of idling diesels.

<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/fae03b48.jpg" alt=" - " />
sonickteam2
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 06:03 PM UTC #
Drivin' N' Cryin' ?
sonickteam2
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 06:04 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Barcelona:
I didn't like Pearl Jam, but I am starting to like them now that it is mentioned that they care about global warming.
hehehehe

hahahaha

:)
sonickteam2
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 06:22 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
not trying to be a dick, but i worked on this stuff:

http://newsroom.wri.org/mediakits_contents.cfm?MediaKitID=1
Itâ??s true, you donâ??t have to work very hard in trying to be a dick. Thanks for all of the scholarly critiques you referenced! Have you read much E.O.Wilson? Itâ??s nice to see you professionally contributing to the discourse at hand. Iâ??m sure that your scientific credentials are more than sterlingâ?¦what are your scientific credentials, btw?

You can massage the data all that you wish. That will not change the fact that the theory of global warming due to the intervention of homo sapiens is unproven. And it will not change the fact that rock stars are self indulgent glory hounds who like to preen and polish their own facades with the blood of starving Ethiopians. Yeah, right, Phil Collins really cares about starving skeletons. Thatâ??s why he flew the Concorde so he could play in Philadelphia. I wonder how much carbon dioxide Live Aid generated? Save the whales, save those snails! Blame George Harrison for spawning phony rock star â??global awarenessâ??. Yeah, Pearl Jam are really sharing and caring dudes. Did you notice the hatâ?¦genuine hemp fiber. Those dudes really care a lot about the environment. When they tour Shangai next year they are gonna use rickshaws instead of idling diesels.
talk about a tiresome, meandering post!!!!!


the ONLY thing worth reading was "theory of global warming due to the intervention of homo sapiens is unproven" and thats just for comic value. a theory, unproven? no shit? whoodathunkit!!!
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 06:39 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Iâ??m sure that your scientific credentials are more than sterlingâ?¦what are your scientific credentials, btw?
i worked for an environmental think-tank, helping to publicize our scientists' work, and helping to translate the work of our institute to the media and laypeople

yourself?
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 06:43 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
And it will not change the fact that rock stars are self indulgent glory hounds who like to preen and polish their own facades with the blood of starving Ethiopians.
and i totally agree with you on this … i can't stand most celebrity environmentalists, they're invariably ill-informed and hypocritical … but morons sure do listen to them, so i guess they help
cholli2
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 07:07 PM UTC #
Dinosaur Jr. ?
jude376
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 14, 2006 at 09:53 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Blame George Harrison for spawning phony rock star â??global awarenessâ??.
Are you effing serious? You just blasphemed a Beatle. Why is it so abhorrent for celebrities to use their fame to raise awareness (and money) for good causes - causes that may even be (gasp!) near and dear to their hearts? Would you prefer they hoarded their money, spending it all on worthless crap?

Harrison cared very deeply about the situation in Bangladesh. All royalties from the sale of The Concert for Bangladesh to this day still go to UNICEF. Later on, he even established his own charitable foundation, The Material World Foundation.

Harrison phoney? That's just ridiculous. :roll:
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 15, 2006 at 06:47 PM UTC #
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/84d610a2.jpg" alt=" - " />

Jewel cases are not environmentally friendly nor are biodegradeable. A typical CD jewelcase is made up of 85 grams of PolyVinyl Chloride (PVC). When the CD case is no longer needed, it either sits for thousands of years in landfills or is incinerated, which releases dioxin into the atmosphere, one of the most toxic carcinogens on the planet. A single 1,000 order of replicated CDs, using standard plastic jewel cases creates nearly 200 lbs. of one of the most dangerously toxic chemicals on the planet today.
kosmo
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 15, 2006 at 09:06 PM UTC #
Nice facts but downloading from eMusic does require the use of jewel cases… Why don't you dig up some facts on how bad for the environment the Internet is?
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 16, 2006 at 01:44 PM UTC #
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Nice facts but downloading from eMusic does require the use of jewel cases
It does? How so?
kosmo
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 16, 2006 at 02:54 PM UTC #
well i could go back and edit my orginial post, but as usually the brain was going faster than the fingers..

revised statement

Nice facts but downloading from eMusic doesn't require the need of jewel cases… and eMusic is something that Hoya and I use thus resulting in less jewel cases having to be made! plus La La is allowing the swapping of disc thus resulting in even more jewel cases being made.
jude376
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 16, 2006 at 03:17 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Jewel cases are not environmentally friendly nor are biodegradeable. A typical CD jewelcase is made up of 85 grams of PolyVinyl Chloride (PVC). When the CD case is no longer needed, it either sits for thousands of years in landfills or is incinerated, which releases dioxin into the atmosphere, one of the most toxic carcinogens on the planet. A single 1,000 order of replicated CDs, using standard plastic jewel cases creates nearly 200 lbs. of one of the most dangerously toxic chemicals on the planet today.
You're missing the point. Obviously, it is impossible to live in a way that has a zero impact on the environment. But you do have choices. And you can minimize your impact by choosing the more environmentally friendly option.

Specifically regarding your jewel case example, some bands have forgone plastic jewel cases in favor of cardboard ones. To go back to my environmental posterchild band Cloud Cult, they use re-used jewel cases, print their inserts on recycled paper, and even use non-PVC shrink wrap. And like kosmo mentioned, we now have the option of buying music online, eliminating the need for packaging completely.

When there isn't an environmentally friendly option, you can use your consumer power to demand it. Remember when CDs used to come encapsulated in those useless long carboard boxes? Ever wonder why they stopped doing that? Pressure from environmentally-minded consumers, that's why.

New York Times Article
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 17, 2006 at 12:10 PM UTC #
Originally posted by jude376:
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Jewel cases are not environmentally friendly nor are biodegradeable. A typical CD jewelcase is made up of 85 grams of PolyVinyl Chloride (PVC). When the CD case is no longer needed, it either sits for thousands of years in landfills or is incinerated, which releases dioxin into the atmosphere, one of the most toxic carcinogens on the planet. A single 1,000 order of replicated CDs, using standard plastic jewel cases creates nearly 200 lbs. of one of the most dangerously toxic chemicals on the planet today.
You're missing the point. Obviously, it is impossible to live in a way that has a zero impact on the environment. But you do have choices. And you can minimize your impact by choosing the more environmentally friendly option.

Specifically regarding your jewel case example, some bands have forgone plastic jewel cases in favor of cardboard ones. To go back to my environmental posterchild band Cloud Cult, they use re-used jewel cases, print their inserts on recycled paper, and even use non-PVC shrink wrap. And like kosmo mentioned, we now have the option of buying music online, eliminating the need for packaging completely.

When there isn't an environmentally friendly option, you can use your consumer power to demand it. Remember when CDs used to come encapsulated in those useless long carboard boxes? Ever wonder why they stopped doing that? Pressure from environmentally-minded consumers, that's why.

New York Times Article
I'll bet you are a lot of fun at parties…
jude376
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 17, 2006 at 06:41 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
I'll bet you are a lot of fun at parties…
Friendly, well-informed people usually are.
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox July 18, 2006 at 07:01 PM UTC #
Originally posted by jude376:
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
I'll bet you are a lot of fun at parties…
Friendly, well-informed people usually are.
Sometimes the jokes write themselves.
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