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Praise be to God!

bnyced0
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 03:42 PM UTC #
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
You'll find no argument from me there.

Anyway, this all distracts from the point of this thread, which is that Falwell has joined Mohammed Atta and the other 19 9-11 hijackers to spend an eternity in screaming pain in the burning sulfur pits of Hell.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Al Sharpton is more of a racist than I'll ever be.
If only there was a hell, no he'll just provide some wonderful composte. Hopefully some beautiful flowers will sprout out of the grave site so that he wouldn't have died in vain.
ggw
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 03:42 PM UTC #
True dat – when Rhett questions why he should care about the death of a dope fiend musician, everyone gets up in his business. Yet, when someone they don't like/agree with/respect dies, then hey! – it's "pop open a bottle of champagne" time!


Originally posted by nkotb:
But isn't there any merit in being a bigger person? I think that's my main problem with politics in general. One side insults the other, the other does it back claiming the first side is stopping to mudslinging. And repeat.
Doctor Doom
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 03:55 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
True dat – when Rhett questions why he should care about the death of a dope fiend musician, everyone gets up in his business. Yet, when someone they don't like/agree with/respect dies, then hey! – it's "pop open a bottle of champagne" time!

Well, this *is* a music board, last I checked. So if a musician dies, people are likely gonna care.

If you object to this, I'm sure Liberty Baptist University has a forum where Falwell will be treated with respect, and "dope fiend musicians" will not.
ggw
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 04:05 PM UTC #
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
If you object to this, I'm sure Liberty Baptist University has a forum where Falwell will be treated with respect, and "dope fiend musicians" will not.
Not surprisingly, you totally missed the point.
bunnyman
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 04:06 PM UTC #
I don't know about the rest of you, but I really didn't wish any ill onto Falwell. I thought there was more value and worth in a stepped-in turd than in him (or his so-called "faith"), but where he is now doesn't matter to me. What matters is that his hateful intolerance and ignorance is silenced, and maybe that is at the core of some people's joy. Hell, I wasn't sad when the Pope died, even though many could argue that he touched many people in a positive way. At the end of the day, we're all gonna high tail it on the big train to the sky, and maybe someone will be happy when I leave this planet. And at that point, will it matter?

When a musician dies, their gift of talent goes with them…but with Falwell, his voice is gone and that is kind of a relief. Now some of us can go back to screwing Tinky Winky and hanging out with our feminist bitches while we live a life of moral decay and debauchery. At least I'm happy and I can look in the mirror every morning and not hate what I see. Anyone as hateful as Falwell probably can't say the same.
TheDirector217
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 04:34 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Still, it's a bit tacky to mock someone the day they die, don't you think? Not that I'm a fan.

But what if I thought the Clash sucked, and I came on here mocking Joe Strummer the day he died. Would there be nothing wrong with that?
There would be something wrong that for the undeniable fact that The Clash fuckin' RAWKED. Regardless of how you may feel about them on a personal level, the Clash were great. Don't gotta like 'em, but if you REALLY fuck with music you MUST at the least respect them/their catalog.

On some real shit though, I believe Joe Strummer moved more people on a personal level than Falwell ever did. You're talking about a pompous hatemonger (This is coming from someone that's actually a "Christian.") who moved a couple hundred thousand people (and THAT may be a push) versus someone who touched millions. The fact that a lead singer of a band is more revered than a so-called man of God should be some foretelling shit. Real talk.

Now, with that all said, do I take joy in this man's Falwell's death???? Nah, I don't. That's some wrong shit. Somebody lost a husband, a father, etc. So my heart goes out to his family. But there's one question that needs to be answered here.

Will I, TheDirector217, carrier of the large, ahem, organ, miss Jerry Falwell???

I answer that with a resounding FUCK NO.

True story. Good day . . . . . :D
skeeter
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 04:47 PM UTC #
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
On some real shit though, I believe Joe Strummer moved more people on a personal level than Falwell ever did. You're talking about a pompous hatemonger (This is coming from someone that's actually a "Christian.") who moved a couple hundred thousand people (and THAT may be a push) versus someone who touched millions. The fact that a lead singer of a band is more revered than a so-called man of God should be some foretelling shit. Real talk.
You're kidding, right?

Falwell had his own TV show (or was it a network?) He had contact on a daily basis with millions of people. He and his people managed to become a viable force in pressuring the US government to take them seriously. At one time he had millions of religious followers that hung on his every word.

Joe Strummer was the leader of a rock band that, frankly, didn't really sell all that many records. Yeah, he's an icon, but he had nowhere near the devoted following of Falwell.
calecp01
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:04 PM UTC #
What's wrong with being disrespectful towards people of faith? Believing in ancient religious dogma above all else is ignorant and dangerous… I don't see what is respectable about that…

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm not going to get into a debate over the existence of a God, but you seem quite disrespectful to the vast majority of people in the world who choose to believe in his/her existence.

Of course science can't prove the existence of God, that's why they call it FAITH.
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:06 PM UTC #
Aside from Reagan, Falwell was the best thing punk music ever had. For that I eulogize him.

I really didn't like him much either. I get my rocks off arguing with hypocritical trustfund poseurs. Them leather trousers and spiked blue mohawks ain't cheap, you know.
manimtired
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:14 PM UTC #
What's wrong with being disrespectful towards people of faith? Believing in ancient religious dogma above all else is ignorant and dangerous… I don't see what is respectable about that…
quite an ignorant post
nkotb
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:19 PM UTC #
Christ, we're a bunch of people that can't resist tearing into one another for musical tastes! Why is it so surprising we wouldn't be tolerant of each other's beliefs?!?

Originally posted by manimtired:
What's wrong with being disrespectful towards people of faith? Believing in ancient religious dogma above all else is ignorant and dangerous… I don't see what is respectable about that…
quite an ignorant post
calecp01
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:39 PM UTC #
Originally posted by manimtired:
What's wrong with being disrespectful towards people of faith? Believing in ancient religious dogma above all else is ignorant and dangerous… I don't see what is respectable about that…
quite an ignorant post
Why?
manimtired
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:49 PM UTC #
why?
just a major generalization…
ya know..all gays are sex addicts…keep them away!!! why should i show them respect?
ggw
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 05:52 PM UTC #
Originally posted by cale:
Originally posted by manimtired:
What's wrong with being disrespectful towards people of faith? Believing in ancient religious dogma above all else is ignorant and dangerous… I don't see what is respectable about that…
quite an ignorant post
Why?
Because faith and religion are distinct things.
calecp01
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 06:57 PM UTC #
Well, I can try to back up my generalization with some rational arguments… at least I think I can… which someone who says gays are sex addicts probably can't (although is being a sex addict necessarily a bad thing?) anyway - people who adhere to ancient religious dogma are dangerous even if they aren't fundamentalists because they raise their offspring to believe these texts are true, and both the Bible and Koran have plenty of nasty parts, and no real way to determine which are the parts to ignore and which are the parts to follow. Generalizing them as ignorant is based on the fact that I think it is plainly obvious that the Bible was written by plain old humans, and not even divinely *inspired*, due to the many contradictions, bad math and science, lack of anything that couldn't be imagined during the time and place it was written, failed prophecies, etc. so believing they are the word of God is ignorant and ignorance doesnâ??t need to be respected, im my own humble opinion.

Originally posted by manimtired:
why?
just a major generalization…
ya know..all gays are sex addicts…keep them away!!! why should i show them respect?
calecp01
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 07:02 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by cale:
Originally posted by manimtired:
What's wrong with being disrespectful towards people of faith? Believing in ancient religious dogma above all else is ignorant and dangerous… I don't see what is respectable about that…
quite an ignorant post
Why?
Because faith and religion are distinct things.
Not following… I mean, I understand they are different things, but I think in the context of this discussion we're talking about people of faith being people that believe the religious texts of Christianity to be true in some fasion… so why would that make my post ignorant?
Rhett Miller
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Re: Praise be to God! May 16, 2007 at 07:05 PM UTC #
yes

Originally posted by cale:
[QB](although is being a sex addict necessarily a bad thing?) QUOTE]
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