The Digital Music Thread

More DRM silliness courtesy Sony

"Sony kills DRM stores – your DRM music will only last until your next upgrade"

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/01/sony-kills-drm-store.html

the gist being that SONY is discontinuing their DRM riddle store and the catch is one can only enjoy music purchased from it on the computer or player on which it's been downloaded to.
Originally posted by kosmo:
Anyone using Anywhere.fm? because I'm liking whats on offer… i.e. Upload your own music, let others listen to it and it's licensed! Only problem is I don't generally rip my CDs to MP3s….
what format do you rip to - flac?

interesting service, but i don't need my music on the go - i have what i need on my work laptop. and i have more music than i know what to do with (and here comes emusic). i'm looking to simplify my life, so i'll skip on this one.
i generally don't rip my CDs at all seeing as I don't own or really want an iPod… so it's a mixture of CD and eMusic mp3s for moi… kosmette rips AAC for her iPod which isn't supported by this site yet…

i'm not looking to use this service as online storage only to be able to recreate my playlist so people can legally listen to them.
Originally posted by kosmo:
More DRM silliness courtesy Sony

"Sony kills DRM stores – your DRM music will only last until your next upgrade"

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/01/sony-kills-drm-store.html

the gist being that SONY is discontinuing their DRM riddle store and the catch is one can only enjoy music purchased from it on the computer or player on which it's been downloaded to.
I can't believe that Sony would do such a thing </sarcasm>.
I love the user policy:

Don't Steal Music!

It's the first one I've ever read in its entirety.

Originally posted by kosmo:
don't get me wrong rebel.fm is a cool idea and would be a nifty way to share playlists and yes it's sort of like having friends over to listen to music, but it needs a way to get legal in terms of copyright law.
I'd be wary of how much time you're putting into these new ventures. I will never forget how many nights I spent uploading my CDs into MP3.com's database so that I could stream them from MP3.com's website no matter where I was only to have the site shut down in a month.

That's kind of how I feel about all of these sites until they do one of two things:

(1) Amend the DMCA
(2) Work out a deal with the recording industry

The idea of if we build it they will come and then they'll have to negotiate with us is such a failed model at this point…
I didn't have to upload anything with Reble.fm. I came home from work to find all of my songs catalogs and ready, without much effort on my part.

Search for aobehr if you want to browse. I warn you…it's hipster friendly.

Originally posted by vansmack:
I'd be wary of how much time you're putting into these new ventures. I will never forget how many nights I spent uploading my CDs into MP3.com's database so that I could stream them from MP3.com's website no matter where I was only to have the site shut down in a month.
kosmo – thought you and others would like this blog: http://blog.wired.com/music/
iTunes DRM hacked
this is actually video and not music, but i didn't want to start another thread for this:

Hulu - watch streaming TV shows and movies (but mostly clips of the latter, as far as i can tell). looks legit.
well i was going to make a bunch of snide remarks about the recent itunes/beatles deal, but it turns out that the initial reports were false…
Originally posted by kosmo:
well i was going to make a bunch of snide remarks about the recent itunes/beatles deal, but it turns out that the initial reports were false…
It was because of the American Idol night where they performed Lennon/McCartney songs and because of the Apple/AI deal, they were all made available on iTunes. That's what all the deliberations were about - crappy cover versions!
actually it was this report

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/07/nmacca107.xml

iTunes to strike deal over Beatles' hits

By Sophie Borland
Last Updated: 2:16am GMT 08/03/2008

Sir Paul McCartney is expected to release the Beatles back catalogue for download on the internet in a deal which could be worth up to £300 million.

blah blah blah

guess the unnamed source close to macca didn't have the story correct..

it would appear this story got legs due to paul's pending divorce settlement and possibly micheal jackson's own financial problems.
found another one of those upload and share music with your friends websites and i shit you not as this is what is posted about whether or not it's legal

tunesbag.com
Is tunesBag a legal service?

Yes, tunesBag can only be used to manage music you already have. You can share your library with friends according to the law in Austria (Privatkopie).

Austrian law
§ 42 UrhG. (1) Jedermann darf von einem Werk einzelne Vervielfältigungsstücke auf Papier oder einem ähnlichen Träger zum eigenen Gebrauch herstellen.
(4) Jede natürliche Person darf von einem Werk einzelne Vervielfältigungsstücke auf anderen als den in Abs. 1 genannten Trägern zum privaten Gebrauch und weder für unmittelbare noch mittelbare kommerzielle Zwecke herstellen.
(5) Eine Vervielfältigung zum eigenen oder privaten Gebrauch liegt vorbehaltlich der Abs. 6 und 7 nicht vor, wenn sie zu dem Zweck vorgenommen wird, das Werk mit Hilfe des Vervielfältigungsstückes der �ffentlichkeit zugänglich zu machen. Zum eigenen oder privaten Gebrauch hergestellte Vervielfältigungsstücke dürfen nicht dazu verwendet werden, das Werk damit der �ffentlichkeit zugänglich zu machen.
Source: www.ris.bka.gv.at
Further information: i4j.at
Anyone see Billy Bragg's Op-Ed piece for the New York Times this weekend?

Op-Ed Contributor
The Royalty Scam
By BILLY BRAGG
Dorset, England

LAST week at South by Southwest, the rock music conference held every year in Austin, Tex., the talk in hotel lobbies, coffeeshops and the convention center was dominated by one issue: how do musicians make a living in the age of the Internet? Itâ??s a problem our industry has struggled with in the wake of the rising popularity of sharing mp3 music files.

Our discussions were brought into sharp relief when news reached Austin of the sale of Bebo.com to AOL for a staggering $850 million. Bebo is a social-networking site whose membership has risen to 40 million in just two years. In Britain, it ranks with MySpace and Facebook in popularity, although its users tend to come from a younger age group.

Estimates suggested that the founder, Michael Birch (along with his wife and co-founder, Xochi), walked away with $600 million for his 70 percent stake in the company.

I heard the news with a particular piquancy, as Mr. Birch has cited me as an influence in Beboâ??s attitude toward artists. He got in touch two years ago after I took MySpace to task over its proprietary rights clause. I was concerned that the site was harvesting residual rights from original songs posted there by unsigned musicians. As a result of my complaints, MySpace changed its terms and conditions to state clearly that all rights to material appearing on the site remain with the originator.

A few weeks later, Mr. Birch came to see me at my home. He was hoping to expand his business by hosting music and wanted my advice on how to construct an artist-centered environment where musicians could post original songs without fear of losing control over their work. Following our talks, Mr. Birch told the press that he wanted Bebo to be a site that worked for artists and held their interests first and foremost.

In our discussions, we largely ignored the elephant in the room: the issue of whether he ought to consider paying some kind of royalties to the artists. After all, wasnâ??t he using their music to draw members â?? and advertising â?? to his business? Social-networking sites like Bebo argue that they have no money to distribute â?? their value is their membership. Well, last week Michael Birch realized the value of his membership. Iâ??m sure heâ??ll be rewarding those technicians and accountants who helped him achieve this success. Perhaps he should also consider the contribution of his artists.

The musicians who posted their work on Bebo.com are no different from investors in a start-up enterprise. Their investment is the content provided for free while the site has no liquid assets. Now that the business has reaped huge benefits, surely they deserve a dividend.

Whatâ??s at stake here is more than just the morality of the market. The huge social networking sites that seek to use music as free content are as much to blame for the malaise currently affecting the industry as the music lover who downloads songs for free. Both the corporations and the kids, it seems, want the use of our music without having to pay for it.

The claim that sites such as MySpace and Bebo are doing us a favor by promoting our work is disingenuous. Radio stations also promote our work, but they pay us a royalty that recognizes our contribution to their business. Why should that not apply to the Internet, too?

Technology is advancing far too quickly for the old safeguards of intellectual property rights to keep up, and while we wait for the technical fixes to emerge, those of us who want to explore the opportunities the Internet offers need to establish a set of ground rules that give us the power to decide how our music is exploited and by whom.

We need to do this not for the established artists who already have lawyers, managers and careers, but for the fledgling songwriters and musicians posting original material onto the Web tonight. The first legal agreement that they enter into as artists will occur when they click to accept the terms and conditions of the site that will host their music. Worryingly, no one is looking out for them.

If young musicians are to have a chance of enjoying a fruitful career, then we need to establish the principle of artistsâ?? rights throughout the Internet â?? and we need to do it now.

Billy Bragg is a songwriter and author.