Originally posted by jadetree:Thanks Jadetree…I enjoyed that article, although I don't agree with Oates philosophy. Teams only "rent" players for their benefit, not the player's. So if a team signs anyone for a playoff run it's because they feel they need that player so he's every bit a part of that team, he's the link they've been missing. Colorado signed Hunter, and then Bourke with the player's career in mind, but they wouldn't have done it had they not thought the player could improve the team.
Here is an article about Oates and the Cup that was in the St. Louis paper today -
[url=http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/Sports/Blues/E0611A5F8B5765F186256D3B001B38DD?OpenDocument&Headline=Time+might+be+right+for+Oates'+first+Cup]http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/Sports/Blues/E0611A5F8B5765F186256D3B001B38DD?OpenDocument&Headline=Time+might+be+right+for+Oates'+first+Cup
soccer today?
From the BBC world service.
Seaman to join Man City
Seaman ended his Arsenal career on a high
His final hurrah
Photos of his highs and lows
Career facts and figures
Manchester City have confirmed that David Seaman has agreed a one-year contract to join the club.
City manager Kevin Keegan was known to be on the trail of the out-of-contract Arsenal and England goalkeeper as a replacement for Peter Schmeichel.
Keegan worked with Seaman when he was coach of the England team.
After 13 seasons with Arsenal, the 39-year-old was told by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger he would not be first choice next season - although he was offered a one-year contract with the promise of a place on the club's coaching staff.
There's going to be bodily fluids all over that new stadium the City of Manchester just GAVE them…semen in the goal area and shite everywhere else!
Seaman to join Man City
Seaman ended his Arsenal career on a high
His final hurrah
Photos of his highs and lows
Career facts and figures
Manchester City have confirmed that David Seaman has agreed a one-year contract to join the club.
City manager Kevin Keegan was known to be on the trail of the out-of-contract Arsenal and England goalkeeper as a replacement for Peter Schmeichel.
Keegan worked with Seaman when he was coach of the England team.
After 13 seasons with Arsenal, the 39-year-old was told by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger he would not be first choice next season - although he was offered a one-year contract with the promise of a place on the club's coaching staff.
There's going to be bodily fluids all over that new stadium the City of Manchester just GAVE them…semen in the goal area and shite everywhere else!
Originally posted by mankie:Oh dear god…….
Let me repeat what I just said on "boys don't cry"
GO DUCKS! GO DUCKS! GO DUCKS!
WIN ONE FOR THE OATESY!!!!
Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals on the road! I can't handle this.
Originally posted by vansmack:You know that EVERYONE except Devils fans are behind the Ducks…..fate is on the Ducks side too, because the home team can't win every game in a series….I think 3-1 for the Duckies!
Originally posted by mankie:Oh dear god…….
Let me repeat what I just said on "boys don't cry"
GO DUCKS! GO DUCKS! GO DUCKS!
WIN ONE FOR THE OATESY!!!!
Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals on the road! I can't handle this.
Originally posted by mankie:I tend to agree with you now - especially after Kariya's legendary performance Saturday night.
You know that EVERYONE except Devils fans are behind the Ducks…..
While the league says that Stevens' hit was legal, it was not clean by any stretch of the imagination. It was a cheap shot at best. I didn't think we'd see Kariya until December at the earliest.
Anyhow, if anyone is interested, I'll be at the Park Bench Pub (Cleveland Park, the old Club Soda if you're old enough to remember that place) tonight to watch Game 7. I won't be the friendliest person while the game is on, but in between periods I can be fun. It won't be hard to find out which person in the bar is vansmack.
Originally posted by vansmack:
The one in the old/new CA Surf footie shirt?? ;)
It won't be hard to find out which person in the bar is vansmack.
Originally posted by mankie:Yeah, that or my Kariya jersey….
The one in the old/new CA Surf footie shirt?? ;)
ac milan and barcelona have just been confirmed for rfk on july 30. don't know the date tickets go on sale though.
European soccer champion AC Milan will play Spanish power FC Barcelona on July 30 at RFK Stadium after negotiations to stage the exhibition at FedEx Field collapsed.
Game organizers and city officials wouldn't comment on the switch yesterday, but a source familiar with the talks said an official announcement would probably be made this week.
A spokesman for ChampionsWorld, the New Jersey-based company sponsoring the Milan-Barcelona match and Manchester United's summer tour, had said late last month that a deal was close to being finalized for Milan to play at the home of the Washington Redskins. But the sides apparently couldn't reach a compromise on financial details.
FedEx Field hasn't hosted a major soccer event since the 1999 Women's World Cup.
AC Milan, owned by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, won its sixth European Cup title on May 28 by beating Italian rival Juventus on penalty kicks. Barcelona, suffering through a subpar Spanish league season, lost in the quarterfinals of the European Cup.
RFK Stadium also is expected to be named Wednesday as a venue for this fall's Women's World Cup.
Meantime, AC Milan signed Brazil's World Cup-winning captain, Cafu, to a two-year contract after his agreement with Serie A rival Roma expired.
European soccer champion AC Milan will play Spanish power FC Barcelona on July 30 at RFK Stadium after negotiations to stage the exhibition at FedEx Field collapsed.
Game organizers and city officials wouldn't comment on the switch yesterday, but a source familiar with the talks said an official announcement would probably be made this week.
A spokesman for ChampionsWorld, the New Jersey-based company sponsoring the Milan-Barcelona match and Manchester United's summer tour, had said late last month that a deal was close to being finalized for Milan to play at the home of the Washington Redskins. But the sides apparently couldn't reach a compromise on financial details.
FedEx Field hasn't hosted a major soccer event since the 1999 Women's World Cup.
AC Milan, owned by Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, won its sixth European Cup title on May 28 by beating Italian rival Juventus on penalty kicks. Barcelona, suffering through a subpar Spanish league season, lost in the quarterfinals of the European Cup.
RFK Stadium also is expected to be named Wednesday as a venue for this fall's Women's World Cup.
Meantime, AC Milan signed Brazil's World Cup-winning captain, Cafu, to a two-year contract after his agreement with Serie A rival Roma expired.
cool something else interesting to add to the calendar…
so professor mankie in what finer drinking hole will you be giving tutorials to those of us who know the rules of the games but not the current faces?
so professor mankie in what finer drinking hole will you be giving tutorials to those of us who know the rules of the games but not the current faces?
btw, tickets are on sale for the blackburn rovers game on july 16 right now.
Manchester OKs Transfer Fee for Beckham
20 minutes ago
MANCHESTER, England - Manchester United announced on Tuesday it had agreed a transfer fee with Barcelona for the sale of England captain David Beckham.
The deal is subject to a number of conditions including personal terms and Joan Laporta being elected president of Barcelona, United said.
"Manchester United confirms that club officials have met Joan Laporta, the leading candidate for the presidency of Barcelona," the club said in a statement.
"These meetings have resulted in an offer being made for the transfer of David Beckham to Barcelona.
"This offer is subject to a number of conditions and critically to both Mr. Laporta being elected president on Sunday 15 June and Barcelona subsequently reaching agreement with David Beckham on his personal contract.
"Manchester United confirms that, in the event that all of the conditions are fulfilled, then the offer would be acceptable."
FC Barcelona said Tuesday it had no comment on the Beckham transfer and referred all queries to Laporta. Laporta could not be immediately contacted.
Manchester United's announcement came after months of speculation about Beckham's future. Another Spanish club, nine-time Champions Cup winner Real Madrid, current champion AC Milan and Inter Milan had also been linked with a move for the England captain.
As is customary with transfer dealing, no fee was revealed by Manchester United. Newspaper reports have said any bid for Beckham would have to be at least 30 million pounds (US$48 million).
Beckham, who has been at Manchester United for almost 13 years and has helped the club win eight league titles in 11 years and the Champions Cup in 1999, is currently in Los Angeles with his pop star wife, "Posh Spice" Victoria.
Beckham told the Los Angeles Times he was happy to stay at Manchester United but had never said he would remain there for the rest of his career.
in other news, ac milan signed Cafu
20 minutes ago
MANCHESTER, England - Manchester United announced on Tuesday it had agreed a transfer fee with Barcelona for the sale of England captain David Beckham.
The deal is subject to a number of conditions including personal terms and Joan Laporta being elected president of Barcelona, United said.
"Manchester United confirms that club officials have met Joan Laporta, the leading candidate for the presidency of Barcelona," the club said in a statement.
"These meetings have resulted in an offer being made for the transfer of David Beckham to Barcelona.
"This offer is subject to a number of conditions and critically to both Mr. Laporta being elected president on Sunday 15 June and Barcelona subsequently reaching agreement with David Beckham on his personal contract.
"Manchester United confirms that, in the event that all of the conditions are fulfilled, then the offer would be acceptable."
FC Barcelona said Tuesday it had no comment on the Beckham transfer and referred all queries to Laporta. Laporta could not be immediately contacted.
Manchester United's announcement came after months of speculation about Beckham's future. Another Spanish club, nine-time Champions Cup winner Real Madrid, current champion AC Milan and Inter Milan had also been linked with a move for the England captain.
As is customary with transfer dealing, no fee was revealed by Manchester United. Newspaper reports have said any bid for Beckham would have to be at least 30 million pounds (US$48 million).
Beckham, who has been at Manchester United for almost 13 years and has helped the club win eight league titles in 11 years and the Champions Cup in 1999, is currently in Los Angeles with his pop star wife, "Posh Spice" Victoria.
Beckham told the Los Angeles Times he was happy to stay at Manchester United but had never said he would remain there for the rest of his career.
in other news, ac milan signed Cafu
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:First the Ducks, now this. this has become one of the worst sports week of my life.
Manchester OKs Transfer Fee for Beckham
20 minutes ago
MANCHESTER, England - Manchester United announced on Tuesday it had agreed a transfer fee with Barcelona for the sale of England captain David Beckham.
The deal is subject to a number of conditions including personal terms and Joan Laporta being elected president of Barcelona, United said.
"Manchester United confirms that club officials have met Joan Laporta, the leading candidate for the presidency of Barcelona," the club said in a statement.
"These meetings have resulted in an offer being made for the transfer of David Beckham to Barcelona.
"This offer is subject to a number of conditions and critically to both Mr. Laporta being elected president on Sunday 15 June and Barcelona subsequently reaching agreement with David Beckham on his personal contract.
"Manchester United confirms that, in the event that all of the conditions are fulfilled, then the offer would be acceptable."
FC Barcelona said Tuesday it had no comment on the Beckham transfer and referred all queries to Laporta. Laporta could not be immediately contacted.
Manchester United's announcement came after months of speculation about Beckham's future. Another Spanish club, nine-time Champions Cup winner Real Madrid, current champion AC Milan and Inter Milan had also been linked with a move for the England captain.
As is customary with transfer dealing, no fee was revealed by Manchester United. Newspaper reports have said any bid for Beckham would have to be at least 30 million pounds (US$48 million).
Beckham, who has been at Manchester United for almost 13 years and has helped the club win eight league titles in 11 years and the Champions Cup in 1999, is currently in Los Angeles with his pop star wife, "Posh Spice" Victoria.
Beckham told the Los Angeles Times he was happy to stay at Manchester United but had never said he would remain there for the rest of his career.
in other news, ac milan signed Cafu
Originally posted by vansmack:
It's not over till the signatures are complete.
First the Ducks, now this. this has become one of the worst sports week of my life.
Sorry about the Ducks Smackie…they can hold their heads up high though.
Originally posted by mankie:Cheers Mankie. It was tough to watch, but I did give them a standing ovation for the last minute of the game. It was a tremendous run and I'm proud of them. Then I cried like a baby the entire walk home.
Sorry about the Ducks Smackie…they can hold their heads up high though.
Originally posted by mankie:You said it brother….
It's not over till the signatures are complete.
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At a hastily arranged news conference in his Barcelona office, Laporta - stood by a screen displaying United's website statement - said: 'When David Beckham arrives from holiday, we will begin negotiations with him.
'If I am not elected president, I would turn over the transfer to the man who does win.'
Meanwhile, another candidate, Martinez Roviram, rubbished the potential transfer.
'Beckham is a media signing and more of a dream than reality. He is a player we would never try to sign,' he said on Spanish radio. 'He crosses well but we need someone to score the goals. We want to sign a number nine.
'Beckham makes a lot of news off the pitch but we're not interested in appearing in gossip columnns.'
Beckham upset by deal to Barcelona
Associated Press
LONDON – David Beckham indicated Tuesday he would reject a deal that would send the Manchester United star to Barcelona.
Beckham was upset by the agreement and has no plans to meet with Joan Laporta, who is running for president of the Barcelona club, said the player's management company, SFX.
The English and Spanish teams agreed on the transfer, but the deal was contingent on Laporta winning Sunday's election and Beckham agreeing to contract terms.
"David is very disappointed and surprised to learn of this statement and feels that he has been used as a political pawn in the Barcelona presidential elections,'' SFX said.
Laporta said he would be talking to Beckham as soon as the player returned from the United States. Beckham is recovering from a broken right wrist.
"If I am not elected president, I would turn over the transfer to the man who does win,'' Laporta said at a news conference.
Another candidate in Sunday's election, Josep Martinez-Rovira, said he had no interest in signing the England captain, perhaps the world's most recognizable soccer star.
"Beckham is a media signing and more of a dream than reality. He is a player we would never try to sign,'' Martinez-Rovira told Spanish radio.
He said Beckham passes well but does not score enough.
"Beckham makes a lot of news off the pitch, but we're not interested in appearing in gossip columns,'' he said.
Announcement of the transfer agreement came after months of speculation about his future.
Another Spanish club, Real Madrid, and the Italian teams AC Milan and Internazionale also had been linked to a possible move for the 28-year-old midfielder.
As is customary in transfers, no fee was disclosed by Manchester United. Newspaper reports have said any bid for Beckham would have to be at least $48 million.
Beckham has helped Manchester United win six of its eight league titles in 11 years and the European Champions Cup in 1999. He has been at Manchester United for almost 13 years, including its youth teams.
Beckham is in Los Angeles with pop star wife Victoria, formerly of the Spice Girls. Before Tuesday's announcement, he had told the Los Angeles Times he was happy to stay at Manchester United but had never said he would remain there for the rest of his career.
Beckham is paid a reported $143,000 a week at Manchester United. He is worth $79.5 million, according to a recent survey of Britain's richest people in The Sunday Times. He has a myriad of endorsement and sponsorship deals and is featured on billboard and magazine covers around much of the world.
If the deal does go through, Beckham could face his old team for the first time Aug. 3. Manchester United plays Barcelona in an exhibition game that opens Philadelphia's new Lincoln Financial Field.
Manchester United's U.S. tour is aimed at enhancing the club's profile in a country where soccer takes a back seat to other sports.
Beckham is getting even more visibility of late in the British film "Bend it Like Beckham,'' with the title based on his trademark ability to curl a free kick over a wall of defenders into the net.
Although Manchester United is soccer's wealthiest club, making big profits every year, it cannot afford to buy players without trying to balance the books.
Two players the club is said to be interested in are Brazilian World Cup star Ronaldinho of Paris Saint Germain and Harry Kewell, Leeds United's Australian forward.
"There will always be changes at a team like Man United,'' Beckham has said.
Beckham has dismissed suggestions of a rift with Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson despite several publicized fallouts.
Ferguson left his star player on the bench several times last season. In the locker room after a 2-0 loss to Arsenal, Ferguson kicked a soccer shoe that accidentally struck Beckham above the left eye.
"Despite what many people say about me and Sir Alex Ferguson, he's been a father figure to me,'' Beckham said.
Associated Press
LONDON – David Beckham indicated Tuesday he would reject a deal that would send the Manchester United star to Barcelona.
Beckham was upset by the agreement and has no plans to meet with Joan Laporta, who is running for president of the Barcelona club, said the player's management company, SFX.
The English and Spanish teams agreed on the transfer, but the deal was contingent on Laporta winning Sunday's election and Beckham agreeing to contract terms.
"David is very disappointed and surprised to learn of this statement and feels that he has been used as a political pawn in the Barcelona presidential elections,'' SFX said.
Laporta said he would be talking to Beckham as soon as the player returned from the United States. Beckham is recovering from a broken right wrist.
"If I am not elected president, I would turn over the transfer to the man who does win,'' Laporta said at a news conference.
Another candidate in Sunday's election, Josep Martinez-Rovira, said he had no interest in signing the England captain, perhaps the world's most recognizable soccer star.
"Beckham is a media signing and more of a dream than reality. He is a player we would never try to sign,'' Martinez-Rovira told Spanish radio.
He said Beckham passes well but does not score enough.
"Beckham makes a lot of news off the pitch, but we're not interested in appearing in gossip columns,'' he said.
Announcement of the transfer agreement came after months of speculation about his future.
Another Spanish club, Real Madrid, and the Italian teams AC Milan and Internazionale also had been linked to a possible move for the 28-year-old midfielder.
As is customary in transfers, no fee was disclosed by Manchester United. Newspaper reports have said any bid for Beckham would have to be at least $48 million.
Beckham has helped Manchester United win six of its eight league titles in 11 years and the European Champions Cup in 1999. He has been at Manchester United for almost 13 years, including its youth teams.
Beckham is in Los Angeles with pop star wife Victoria, formerly of the Spice Girls. Before Tuesday's announcement, he had told the Los Angeles Times he was happy to stay at Manchester United but had never said he would remain there for the rest of his career.
Beckham is paid a reported $143,000 a week at Manchester United. He is worth $79.5 million, according to a recent survey of Britain's richest people in The Sunday Times. He has a myriad of endorsement and sponsorship deals and is featured on billboard and magazine covers around much of the world.
If the deal does go through, Beckham could face his old team for the first time Aug. 3. Manchester United plays Barcelona in an exhibition game that opens Philadelphia's new Lincoln Financial Field.
Manchester United's U.S. tour is aimed at enhancing the club's profile in a country where soccer takes a back seat to other sports.
Beckham is getting even more visibility of late in the British film "Bend it Like Beckham,'' with the title based on his trademark ability to curl a free kick over a wall of defenders into the net.
Although Manchester United is soccer's wealthiest club, making big profits every year, it cannot afford to buy players without trying to balance the books.
Two players the club is said to be interested in are Brazilian World Cup star Ronaldinho of Paris Saint Germain and Harry Kewell, Leeds United's Australian forward.
"There will always be changes at a team like Man United,'' Beckham has said.
Beckham has dismissed suggestions of a rift with Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson despite several publicized fallouts.
Ferguson left his star player on the bench several times last season. In the locker room after a 2-0 loss to Arsenal, Ferguson kicked a soccer shoe that accidentally struck Beckham above the left eye.
"Despite what many people say about me and Sir Alex Ferguson, he's been a father figure to me,'' Beckham said.
Ireland 2-0 Georgia to salvage what little hope they have of qualifying for euro 2004
England just went up 2-1 over Slovakia on Owen's second goal at 72 minutes. No word on crowd reaction yet.
England just went up 2-1 over Slovakia on Owen's second goal at 72 minutes. No word on crowd reaction yet.
Originally posted by vansmack:I'm sure they're very happy! ;)
England just went up 2-1 over Slovakia on Owen's second goal at 72 minutes. No word on crowd reaction yet.
Originally posted by mankie:Let's just hope they stayed off the field….
I'm sure they're very happy! ;)
Originally posted by vansmack:from what I'm reading it seems they could do with grabbing a few lads from the crowd to play, not having a good game (Beck's, Beck's where are you!)
Originally posted by mankie:Let's just hope they stayed off the field….
I'm sure they're very happy! ;)
Here's a good article regarding Beckham smackie…gives another good perspective on it all.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=269558&cc=5901