new found glory and good charlotte at the patriot center

Are you posting porn again>? Those sites are blocked from me. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:&lt;BR&gt; &lt;P&gt; But what's with all of the piercings? &lt;BR&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;HR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR&gt; &lt;A HREF="http://www.bmeworld.com/obmf/autobio.html" TARGET=_blank&gt;http://www.bmeworld.com/obmf/autobio.html</A>; &lt;P&gt;THEGUY has a website, yerknow?&lt;BR&gt; &lt;A HREF="http://www.bmeworld.com/obmf/" TARGET=_blank&gt;http://www.bmeworld.com/obmf/</A>; &lt;P&gt;

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Are you posting porn again>? Those sites are blocked from me. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No they are links to the bigguys website and an essay he wrote about his modifications.<P>Read them at home.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B> But what's with all of the piercings? I'm just curious as to what motivates people to get all of that body modification? Guess you really can't comment for anyone except yourself…but…&lt;HR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;there are as many answers to this question as there are people with tattoos/piercings/etc. a friend of mine asked people for their answers to this question a while back. you can read some answers &lt;A HREF="http://www.modernamerican.com/why.html" TARGET=_blank&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;P&gt;i can only speak about my own motivations. unfortunately, it often comes down to one of those "if you don't know, i can't explain it" kinda deals, but i'll do my best to give a short answer that will at least give you some idea.&lt;P&gt;everyone has drives that motivate their behavior. hunger, thirst, sex, that kind of thing. i have a drive that motivates me to modify my body in very specific ways. my body is supposed to be modified. it's what is right for me. my body knows what it wants, and i listen to what it tells me. &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;some modifications are purely aesthetic. some are more functional. all are a test of the body's capability to undergo change. our bodies are capable of so many amazing things that most people never experience. through modification, i test the boundaries of my body. i see how it reacts to different stimuli, how it accomodates new things, how it adapts, how it evolves. through modification, i have a better understanding of how my body works. &lt;P&gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda"&gt;quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;HR&gt;And do you feel like it makes people focuse too much on it, and preevents people from getting to know the real you?&lt;/B&gt;&lt;HR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;the modifications are the real me. well, they're a part of the real me.&lt;P&gt;as for the attention my appearance attracts, i could not possibly care less. i would make the same choices i have made if i were the only person on the planet doing them or if everyone else looked just like me. they are for me, and for noone else. i do not make my choices because they gain attention.&lt;P&gt;my appearance does however work as a bit of a filter sometimes. there's more to me than ink and steel, and i'm more than just my body, but if you can't handle the outward appearance, then you definitely can't handle what's inside. &lt;P&gt;i'm giving the world a sneak peek at what's inside by turning my soul inside out and putting it out there for public viewing. it's a risky undertaking, and has consequences that few people could possibly understand, but i am willing to accept any and all outcomes related to my choices.&lt;P&gt;

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by thatguy:<BR><B> <BR>my appearance does however work as a bit of a filter sometimes. there's more to me than ink and steel, and i'm more than just my body, but if you can't handle the outward appearance, then you definitely can't handle what's inside. <P>i'm giving the world a sneak peek at what's inside by turning my soul inside out and putting it out there for public viewing. it's a risky undertaking, and has consequences that few people could possibly understand, but i am willing to accept any and all outcomes related to my choices.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That was beautiful. Sounds like you need a hug.<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joymonster:<BR><B> That was beautiful. Sounds like you need a hug.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>can i get in on that? well said, josh

Yeah I totally agree with you thatguy. Too often people judge other people on their appearance. Many people argue that people that choose to have piercings and decide not to look like the average person have something wrong with them or lack attention. Maybe in some cases thats true, but for the most its not. Try going into an Abercrombie and Fitch, you see everyone nicely dressed and perfect, how do they treat you? Then go into a Hot Topic, or not your average "preppy" store, now how do they treat you? A hell of alot better than then the employees in AF. That tells alot, if you don't personally know the person, you shouldn't decide your opinion on their appearance.

Also, my last post goes with this one. You all say that GC & NFG are poseurs and aren't punk, that they dress trendy, and have gotten too big. Honestly, you can't judge someone on their appearance. How great would it be if music just existed and there weren't genres of music, so you could just listen to what appeals to you. Listen to music and decide whether its good or not, don't look at the artist or band and decide not to like them because of their appearance or choice of clothing. Who cares what they look like or wear? The only purpose of clothing is to cover your body, right? Also, bands can't decide how big they get, most of the time their labels decide where their music is sold, what the next single is, and even sometimes their appearance. Bands for the most part can't deny their labels decisions because then they could just drop them. Its very hard for bands to release a CD on their own, not saying they can't, but its very hard. So please, next time you hear a song, don't judge a band on their appearance, like the song for the song.<BR>P.S. I'm going to the show, bash all you want

Ok i have absolutely no problems with Good Charlotte and New Found Glory. As a matter of fact i've seen them both once and they werent bad. But please dont insult Punk by labeling them Punk. They are HFS music plain and simple and i would hardly call HFS punk!!!!!

Yeah I totally agree with you, I wasn't saying that NFG and GC are punk at all. I'm just saying don't call them poseurs because you don't even know whether they are punk or not or what they are trying to be. Besides, punk isn't the way you dress and just because you listen to punk doesn't make you punk. Punk is a way you think and act, its a state of mind.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BOOMERANG1313:<BR><B>… now how do they treat you?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>shit, i get treated like dirt at value village. *adjusts necktie* i can't get no esteem, i tell ya. no esteem at all.

Thanks for the insights, Thatguy…I think it was cool of you to so openly put it out there…body modification beyond some earrings and getting my haircut is not for me, but I am intrigued by the psychology behind those who choose to engage…one of the "testimonials" in your link inspired me to read The Story of O over the weekend, which I had known what was about, but never really read…brought up all kinds of interesting concepts about "freedom" from the physical world, pushing one's physical existence to limits that open them emotionally and spiritually, etc. I am pretty sure I disagree with any practical application of these concepts, but it is very interesting nonetheless!

I'm going to be there, and I'm not really happy about it, but a friend of mine made me swear that I'd go. Plus Less Than Jake is opening, which in itself is motivation enough for me.<P>But yeah. My lifelong dream is to beat the living hell out of Benjy from Good Charlotte, or at least give him a good slap in the face. "Stop talking about how fucking hardcore you are!" He really bothers me. Well, not THAT much, but I need a target for all my rage at everyone in the music world who annoys me, so I just focus my angst on him. *kick*<P>But… sigh. I'll admit, I think their music is occasionally catchy, although quite frankly, most of it sounds the same. I just can't stand the way they prance around proclaiming their punk-rock-ness. Please. Clothes do NOT always make the man. And I do like New Found Glory (or at least, I OUGHT to by now after near-constant exposure to them thanks to a friend of mine) but that guy's voice really starts to grate on my nerves after about half an hour.<P>Should be interesting.