Maybe if Springsteen started wearing mascara Brian would like him.
new Springsteen single
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Agreed.
Springsteen hasn't put out anything worthy of a second listening since Nebraska.
Originally posted by chaz:Respectfully disagree. Tunnel of Love is pretty damn good. And every other album has at least a few songs that are worth it.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Agreed.
Springsteen hasn't put out anything worthy of a second listening since Nebraska.
As a long time Bruce fan, I do see a few of Brians points about the fan base. There are a lot of 40-55 yr olds who will blindly follow Bruce just as they will the Police, the Stones, The re-invnted Pumpkins, etc.; Brian you'll likely do the same in 15-20 years too.
I do recall much nonchalance when Bruce has extolled the virtues of the foodbanks, or boos when he rails about the failings of Bush, by those Brian refers to as SUV driving private school sending parents. They are definitely there. But then again, most folks still dont understand what Born in the USA was really about anyway.
At $75 a pop plus fees, it aint as blue collar as Bruce likes to think. Although, all seats are the same price, so its better than most big acts who have the scale pricing. And at 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hour shows its (IMO) well worth it. And maybe in your opinion Brian its fake, but it has certainly never felt fake to me. He works for his money and I've never felt cheated after leaving a Bruce show; I can't say that with too many live acts I've seen out there; and I work at the club.
Radio Nowhere? Not impressed; could have been on Human Touch or Lucky Town. I was hopeful that following Devils and Dust and the Seeger Sessions, Bruce was going to "age gracefully".
I'm hopeful for the rest of the album and will no doubt be at the phone booth in November.
To quote from Wikipedia: "He finds grandeur in the struggles of daily life." Its as simple as that.
But the dudes going to be 57 later this month, at what point does he (even to us BIG fans) become the caricuture of himself that Brian is accusing him of being now??
Originally posted by chaz:seconded. I also never said anything about whether or not I like the Boss. I simply wondered how somebody could be so vehemently against "what Bruce stands for" when it seems to be nothing but positive.
I never even said whether or not I like the boss or not. I could care less whether you like him or not or love fallout boy or whatever lame or great bands you may listen to. It's your robot like contrarian responses that are funny. Dead give away for adolescense (whether or not you are an adolescent or just act like one I don't know).
What is the great sin of private school?
Anyone know when tix for the dc date go on sale??
chaz: see the Just Announced thread (might be one page back).
Originally posted by chaz:9/21
Anyone know when tix for the dc date go on sale??
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
I just want to hear some good lyrics?
I like Springsteen, some of his stuff, it's really his meshback fans that are the problem. But it's interesting to look at his early stuff, characterized by complex, one might say excessive at times, lyrics, and then look at how over time it all diminished.
They're like Sesame Street characters aren't they?
lol
I don't know. I kinda like the song.
PS, "Spirits in the Night" is the best ode to wanton teenage sex that's out there!
Originally posted by Mobius:Mobius, he can't even do that today!
And on that note, you're going to have a lot of trouble convincing people ten years from now that MCR and FOB weren't jokes.
Seriously though, (and here goes every shred of hipster cred that I might have) for the most part, I agree with most of what Brian wrote regarding Springsteen. Can't stand the guy myself. (His music, that is, not him personally as he does come off as a good guy.) He totally turned me off way, way back in his very early days probably before most of the members of this forum were even born. Nothing about his music resonates with me. None of it. No, I'm not a Communist nor am I anti-American in any way, shape or form. I'm middle class, middle aged and do get him. I just don't want him. I don't like the man's music or the whole Springsteen thing at all. But I don't begrudge anyone else from being a fan.
Maybe it's the way I'm reading Brian's posts but I'm not picking up on the animosity much at all. Okay, yeah, some but not quite like others seem to be taking him. Also, I don't take any of his slights as personal affronts. If anything, they are just the meanderings of a young guy who feels comfortable enough with us to share his thoughts and seems to take the same kind of crap being thrown right back at him. Maybe I'm the one who is way off. Would love to actually hear Brian say these things. I'm reading it all with a whole lot of cocky humor thrown in which actually has me laughing. (He does have some good comedy going for him and you know how I love the forum crazies.) A lot like when I use to read the NME. They could totally tear apart a band I absolutely love but if the humor outweighed the insults, than I considered it a worthwhile read.
* Brian, you owe me now that my cred is totally flushed down the toilet. :p Just be careful the next time you trash The Beatles because I might have to kick your little whipper-snapper ass into shape!
Jaguar
(Gazing down the hill and laughing at Brian.)
Brian's posts make sense when you read it in that fashion. He simply does not like his music (beyond the early years) and he's just teeing off on the rock cliches that he has created. This has affronted the sensibilities of anyone who is into Springsteen because for many people, Springsteen has succinctly expressed in lyrics, music, and monologues the excitement that rock music (not just his own) instills in people. The fact that he's been doing this for 35 years probably grates on some people's nerves. But to me anyway he does seem genuine about it. And he does search for something different in each of his albums, many of which are still quite listenable with a gem here and there. No harm done - it's good to get a youth's perspective. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have anyone in his generation that compares however.
Originally posted by Jammin:
Brian's posts make sense when you read it in that fashion. He simply does not like his music (beyond the early years) and he's just teeing off on the rock cliches that he has created.
Exactly!!!
Well, that is, if we are reading Brian correctly.
Originally posted by Jammin:
This has affronted the sensibilities of anyone who is into Springsteen because for many people, Springsteen has succinctly expressed in lyrics, music, and monologues the excitement that rock music (not just his own) instills in people.
Not just Springsteen but any other music he's thrashed that the regulars like. There's a build up and carry over thing going on here, I think.
Originally posted by Jammin:
The fact that he's been doing this for 35 years probably grates on some people's nerves. But to me anyway he does seem genuine about it. And he does search for something different in each of his albums, many of which are still quite listenable with a gem here and there.
He bores me so much that I don't listen to him closely enough to pick up any differences between albums but I'll give you that one since I don't have a leg to stand on in that matter. The one point I forgot to mention is that I do not agree with Brian calling Sprinsteen fake. He's definitely as genuine as they get. Regardless, the man's music just doesn't do it for me. Period.
Originally posted by Jammin:Yes…and no. It's great getting a variety of perspectives but I'm not one to believe that any one generation trumps another. There are plenty of very talented young musicians out there today. They just haven't had the time yet to work up a whole lifetime's worth of music to do a fair comparison at this stage.
No harm done - it's good to get a youth's perspective. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have anyone in his generation that compares however.
I agree that there is a lot of good new music out there, but most artists and music have a limited shelf life. A talent like Springsteen that can remain relevant for a lot of people for so long is very very rare.
As far as today's music, I love indie bands, but except for something like the velvet underground, I don't find myself listening to any indie type music that's older than 10 years. Every music genre has its heyday and for rock that was the 60's and 70's.
As far as today's music, I love indie bands, but except for something like the velvet underground, I don't find myself listening to any indie type music that's older than 10 years. Every music genre has its heyday and for rock that was the 60's and 70's.