Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by mankie:Easy there big fella…the comment you responded to is not a complaint, merely my thoughts on the reason they cancelled. The very first comment I made on this issue was nothing more than me expressing disapointment that they added a second show AFTER I had bought my ticket, which I wouldn't have bought had I known about two shows in the first place. I then ended up having to defend myself for simply being disapointed. I said many many times it's no big deal once I had got it off my chest, but others wouldn't let it drop…the fact that they cancelled for the reason you posted proves my point completely, even though all these know-it-alls, including yourself and twangirl, made comments to the contrary.
I know I'm a cynical old bastard..BUT..why is it the illness doesn't affect the first show? I think the only ailment is the ticket sales for the second show.jesus fucking christ. a second show is added and you complain. the second show is cancelled and you complain. unbelievable. you sound like a radiohead fan.
if we arranged a six hour long performance for you and your wife in the comfort of your living room, you'd probably complain that the crew trampled your pansies while bringing the gear in.
the second show was selling very well. the singer felt like he wasn't capable of perfoming at his best for two shows in one night when he wasn't 100% healthy. you kept saying that you didn't think they could pull off two shows. apparently, they agree. you were right. you win!
just so you know what to expect when you show up: you will be showing your id, the beer still costs the same, and dave still works the backbar fairly regularly. start your complaining now.
I don't complain about "Super-Dave" I just said he's a miserable git so dont' go down there…I DO complain about the price of Boddingtons in club because it's nothing short of robbery the money you charge…that's all I complain about really, the others are observations made on a PUBLIC FORUM that's what I thought PUBLIC FORUMS are for…….no?
Finally, I don't believe pansies blossom in the fall.
I think you're angry because I was right all along about the second show…don't be, it's okay!
Belle and Sebastian
Well thatguy, if it's any consolation, I'm tremendously excited about the show. Belle and Sebastian shows are pretty cool, IMO. My experience has always been that the audiences are courteous, polite, but also there to have a good time and enjoy the music. So it should hopefully be a good time. I just wonder if now they'll be doing the standard 10pm set time.
Originally posted by bunnyman:If you read this whole thread, "info" says the first show was contracted as an early show for 90 minutes. I don't see them having a 10pm set time. But who knows.
Well thatguy, if it's any consolation, I'm tremendously excited about the show. Belle and Sebastian shows are pretty cool, IMO. My experience has always been that the audiences are courteous, polite, but also there to have a good time and enjoy the music. So it should hopefully be a good time. I just wonder if now they'll be doing the standard 10pm set time.
Originally posted by twangirl:
Each show will be 90 minutes long, per B&S' contract.
Originally posted by CourtneyCrummett:"Second Washington show is CANCELLED
If you read this whole thread, "info" says the first show was contracted as an early show for 90 minutes. I don't see them having a 10pm set time. But who knows.
2003-10-28
With great regret we've had to cancel the late show at the 9.30 club in Washington DC tonight (Tuesday October 28th). Stuart has a chest infection, and he's unable to sing two sets. We're really sorry about any inconvenience caused, and wouldn't be taking these measures if it wasn't absolutely necessary.
Please contact the venue for information on ticket refunds. The times for the early show are unchanged. Sorry!"
http://www.belleandsebastian.com/news.php
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Stuart has a chest infection, and he's unable to sing two sets.Rub some Vicks on it, wear your scarf and you'll be fine..fucking emo boy!
DISCLAIMER FOR THATGUY……THAT WAS NOT A COMPLAINT, MERELY A SARCASTIC COMMENT ABOUT STUART OF BELLE & SEBASTIAN AND THE WHOLE WHIMPY "EMO" THING…THANK YOU.
signed,
mankie.
ggw.. thanks for the info.. hope everyone has a good time.
my post was made after a couple of weeks of folks complaining about a second show being added followed by a night of answering phones and hearing people complain that it was cancelled. i let loose some frustration at the first complaint i saw on the board. it shouldn't all have been directed at one person. my bad. won't happen again. for the record, i wasn't angry then, and i'm not angry now. frustrated and annoyed is not the same as angry. the negative attitude on this board really does annoy me sometimes. it's just very contrary to the way i see the world.
after getting some sleep, i still think that the folks that have been/are complaining about this situation need to get over themselves. it's just music. this is the way the business works. if you don't like it, don't buy tickets and it won't work that way anymore.
i stand by my earlier statement that it is entirely possible for a band to perform two shows in one evening without compromising the quality of either one. maybe not when someone is sick, but under ideal situations, it can be done.
after getting some sleep, i still think that the folks that have been/are complaining about this situation need to get over themselves. it's just music. this is the way the business works. if you don't like it, don't buy tickets and it won't work that way anymore.
i stand by my earlier statement that it is entirely possible for a band to perform two shows in one evening without compromising the quality of either one. maybe not when someone is sick, but under ideal situations, it can be done.
Be sure to catch the openers. I was thinking of going just to see them. Fun band.
what I find interesting is that the folks that complain about it being a business are the same ones that are judging everything on purely business terms themselves
"I'm not getting my money's worth because someone else is trying to get theirs"
"I'm not getting my money's worth because someone else is trying to get theirs"
Cats Cradle NC
Sapphire Supper FL
State Theater FL
Garage UK
Higher Ground VT
State Theatre ME
Club Toast VT
Wetlands NYC
Odd array of clubs to list. I have several Burlington friends who always said the sound for all shows up there sucked the chrome off a trailer hitch. I will ask them again.
IIRC Cat's Cradle designed their club on the 9:30 and people's comments said same place bad sound and crew.
Garage in the UK. That I thought is a rave club, not a live concert venue. I find Nation great for rave stuff but for live sound, it is pretty crappy.
Never heard of the others. Have links to their sites?
Sapphire Supper FL
State Theater FL
Garage UK
Higher Ground VT
State Theatre ME
Club Toast VT
Wetlands NYC
Odd array of clubs to list. I have several Burlington friends who always said the sound for all shows up there sucked the chrome off a trailer hitch. I will ask them again.
IIRC Cat's Cradle designed their club on the 9:30 and people's comments said same place bad sound and crew.
Garage in the UK. That I thought is a rave club, not a live concert venue. I find Nation great for rave stuff but for live sound, it is pretty crappy.
Never heard of the others. Have links to their sites?
According to the front page, the set times have been changed to 8:30 for Slumber Party and 9:45 for Belle and Sebastian. I hope this is true. Because the earlier times really didn't work for me. It's hard to get there that early on a work night, and I really want to see Slumber Party. I heard there are a really cool band.
Belle And Sebastian tonight. I'll be there. I'll be there. :cool:
Great show. Mankie will be unhappy B&S played for about two hours.
A few pointers/observations:
1. Between the words "9:30" and "Club" on the ticket, add the words "is not a karaoke." That and the shrieking. I hope the girl behind me lost her voice.
2. A very scary moment when they brought on stage some guy who looked like a cleaner, thinner, sober version of Badly Drawn Boy (with the wool knit cap and homeless dude coat and all). Of course, he was just some fan they grabbed from the line to help them sing. And not only was he cleaner, thinner and sober than Damian, he also knew the words and performed well. So obviously, it wasn't Badly Drawn Boy.
3. Between songs, sometimes very quiet – people were INTO the music. And the performance was quite good, good setlist, played maybe half of Tigermilk.
4. Slumber Party sound somewhat like Luna, esp. the lead guitarist is a Sean Eden wannabe. Which ain't a bad thing to wannnabe. After a while they got a bit old but a fairly decent opener. I felt bad for them when the crowd booed Stuart's suggestion to bring them out for a song.
A few pointers/observations:
1. Between the words "9:30" and "Club" on the ticket, add the words "is not a karaoke." That and the shrieking. I hope the girl behind me lost her voice.
2. A very scary moment when they brought on stage some guy who looked like a cleaner, thinner, sober version of Badly Drawn Boy (with the wool knit cap and homeless dude coat and all). Of course, he was just some fan they grabbed from the line to help them sing. And not only was he cleaner, thinner and sober than Damian, he also knew the words and performed well. So obviously, it wasn't Badly Drawn Boy.
3. Between songs, sometimes very quiet – people were INTO the music. And the performance was quite good, good setlist, played maybe half of Tigermilk.
4. Slumber Party sound somewhat like Luna, esp. the lead guitarist is a Sean Eden wannabe. Which ain't a bad thing to wannnabe. After a while they got a bit old but a fairly decent opener. I felt bad for them when the crowd booed Stuart's suggestion to bring them out for a song.
wonderful show. blew the dar gig out of the water. superb lighting, bashful banter, plenty of 'oldies,' as they put it. dude, don't harsh my mellow.
I had such a phenomenal time…absolutely amazing gig. I really wish I would have written down the setlist, does anyone happen to have it? The new material really did hold up nicely against the oldies. The highlights for me were definitely "Sleep the Clock Around" (ALWAYS great to hear that one), "Women's Realm", "Like Dylan in the Movies", "Judy and the Dream of Horses", "Wrapped Up In Books", "Dirty Dream #2", and "My Wandering Days Are Over". WOW. I'm really tempted to go up to the Philly show now.
One of the best…if not THE best show I've seen at the 930 in a long time. They actually sound better live than on cd, and I don't just mean because of the live music thing. Their emotion/feeling/energy seems to be missing on some of their studio recordings. Even the light show was impressive. I was very tempted to yell "Thanks Badly Drawn Boy" when that bloke came on stage, but I'm not a loud mouth like markie.
And for J'mal the smart arsed fuck….lucky there wasn't a second show with the first one ending around 11:40'ish..the second show chumps would've been pretty wet standing in the rain for all that time huh? Had they had the second show the first would've been about 20 minutes long seeing as it was after 9:30 when they graced the stage! WANKER!
Slumber Party…complete, utter, total shite. Sorry, we tried our best to like them, but they were just awful so we went to the back bar out of the way, and was pleasantly surprised to find a very cheerful bartender down there.
And for J'mal the smart arsed fuck….lucky there wasn't a second show with the first one ending around 11:40'ish..the second show chumps would've been pretty wet standing in the rain for all that time huh? Had they had the second show the first would've been about 20 minutes long seeing as it was after 9:30 when they graced the stage! WANKER!
Slumber Party…complete, utter, total shite. Sorry, we tried our best to like them, but they were just awful so we went to the back bar out of the way, and was pleasantly surprised to find a very cheerful bartender down there.
Originally posted by J'Mal:Amen. I was very unfortunately stuck next to an incredibly obnoxious and inconsiderate couple who both saw fit to warble away, loudly and off key, to at least half the songs. Even during "Beautiful" when it's just quiet Stuart and a quiet guitar—oh, how I wanted to KILL HER! She didn't even get the words right. Also, giant pink furry hats are unacceptable concert attire.
1. Between the words "9:30" and "Club" on the ticket, add the words "is not a karaoke."
Sorry, I needed to vent. It was a fantastic show once the unwelcome singing stopped.
Originally posted by bunnyman:Dang… I don't remember them playing "MWDAO"… and it's one of my favorites? I hope I didn't miss this one while in the loo… but I think they didn't play it. Help?
and "My Wandering Days Are Over". WOW.
Originally posted by mankie:You know, I found their music OK but their stage presence a total and utter turn-off. I mean, no dancing, no moving, no smiling even. They were either terrified or are just ass-boring. Really sucked, since I felt like I could get into their stuff if I hadn't seen them stand on stage petrified…
Slumber Party…complete, utter, total shite. Sorry, we tried our best to like them, but they were just awful so we went to the back bar out of the way, and was pleasantly surprised to find a very cheerful bartender down there.