ggw
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 04:14 PM UTC
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Just off the top of my head, these are the bands that I would be interested in seing:
American Analog Set
The Apes
British Sea Power
The Constantines
Earlimart
The Gossip
Les Savy Fav
The Long Winters
Longwave
Lucero
The Mars Volta
Nada Surf
Radio 4
The Rapture
The Shins
Singapore Sling
South
The Starlight Mints
The Tyde
jadetree
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 04:57 PM UTC
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My list:
Adam Green
American Analog Set
The Apes
The Baptist Generals
British Sea Power
Broken Social Scene
The Constantines
Death Cab For Cutie
Dub Narcotic Sound System
Earlimart
Elefant
Kinski
Les Savy Fav
The Long Winters
Longwave
Lucero
Mates Of State
Mink Lungs
Moving Units
My Morning Jacket
Nada Surf
Panthers
Pleasure Forever
Pretty Girls Make Graves
The Shins
The Starlight Mints
The Thermals
The Tyde
Wheat
Rhett Miller
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:19 PM UTC
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You guys remind me of when I posted a message on the Robbie Fulks chatboard saying "Some of you alt-country listeners will like just about ANYTHING, as long as it's alt-country." and Robbie pm'ed me back in agreement to the effect of "Amen, brother."
Surely, at least half the bands that are playingthe CMJ are no better than average, and only a handful are excellent. It's the law of averages.
jadetree
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:21 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You guys remind me of when I posted a message on the Robbie Fulks chatboard saying "Some of you alt-country listeners will like just about ANYTHING, as long as it's alt-country." and Robbie pm'ed me back in agreement to the effect of "Amen, brother."
Surely, at least half the bands that are playingthe CMJ are no better than average, and only a handful are excellent. It's the law of averages.
A band does not have to be great for me to have interest in seeing them live. I would not go to very many shows if that were the case.
bags
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:23 PM UTC
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This was my list….
Bettie Serveert
British Sea Power
Cobra High
Earlimart
Elefant
The Long Winters
Longwave
My Morning Jacket
Pretty Girls Make Graves
The Shins
Shonen Knife
The Starlight Mints
Stellastarr*
Superchunk
The Tyde
Vhs Or Beta
You Am I
markie
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:34 PM UTC
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Originally posted by bags:
This was my list….
Vhs Or Beta
they supported Cinerama last year. I really didnt like them at all. Kind of funky disco rock with no words….. Not really my kind of thing.
Adam Green on the other hand……
bags
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:37 PM UTC
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Tell me about Adam Green (I think I thought VHS was someone else…sounds yucky to me).
markie
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:41 PM UTC
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Originally posted by bags:
Tell me about Adam Green (I think I thought VHS was someone else…sounds yucky to me).
Adam Green was in the moldy peaches. He is an antifolk artist. He is Jewish New yorker with an acoustic guitar. His first album was hilarious and brilliant. His new album that just came out adds a string section and I cannot stop listening to it. It is my favourite album for a while. I have seen him live 3 times this year…….
Rhett Miller
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:43 PM UTC
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What is an antifolk artist?
Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by bags:
Tell me about Adam Green (I think I thought VHS was someone else…sounds yucky to me).
Adam Green was in the moldy peaches. He is an antifolk artist. He is Jewish New yorker with an acoustic guitar. His first album was hilarious and brilliant. His new album that just came out adds a string section and I cannot stop listening to it. It is my favourite album for a while. I have seen him live 3 times this year…….
markie
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:44 PM UTC
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markie
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:49 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] What is an antifolk artist?
Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
Oh he is quite charming, we went to talk to him and he just picked his nose.
http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html
antifolk is contempory folk. Performed by young guys, charecterised by its earthy sound quick and cheap reocording and a degree of whit and everyday observation in its lyrics. As such Adam Greens new album isnt really antifolk. Its moving closer to absurdist Leonard Coen, but easier to make friends with.
ggw
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:50 PM UTC
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Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
jadetree
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:52 PM UTC
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Here is a review of a compilation that explains a little-
VARIOUS ARTISTS
Antifolk Vol. 1
(Rough Trade)
US release date: 5 November 2002
UK release date: 2 September 2002
by Jesse Fox Mayshark
PopMatters Music Critic
Folk You!
For all the talk about the "New York scene" these days, the truth is that there are actually many scenes going on all at the same time. That's what you'd expect in a city of eight million people, of course – even leaving aside the obvious distinctions (hip-hoppers vs. jazzbos vs. art-noise rockers vs. new-new-wavers, etc.), artists sort themselves out by neighborhood, venue, musical affinity, influences, etc. And that means the mini-scenes that evolve can be remarkably collegial and cohesive.
The Antifolk Vol. 1 compilation is a document of just such a scene, the punky singer-songwriter crowd that gathers for Monday night "Antihoots" at Sidewalk Café in Alphabet City. It's a family of sorts – and while they might like to pretend otherwise, the big sister and brother of this rag-tag bunch are undeniably Kimya Dawson and Adam Green of the Moldy Peaches. It's not just that Dawson and Green (who each contributes one solo track) compiled the CD. Their raw nursery rhyme aesthetic, with its sing-along melodies, left-field absurdity and casual profanity, is the touchstone for most of the 20 artists here. Few of the offerings live up to the comic-tragic standards of the Moldy Peaches' weirdly lovable 2001 debut, but most are minor pleasures on their own terms.
The songs fall roughly into two camps, joke ones and serious ones. But a lot of the jokes have an edge, and even the serious ones can be funny. You can laugh at the title of Jeffrey Lewis' "You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Do Experiments on Your Own Heart", but the song is plaintively sincere. Diane Cluck's haunting "Monte Carlo" may be the loveliest track on the album, but it's full of sardonic one-liners. The deliberately limited instrumentation (mostly acoustic guitars, with only a couple of full-band songs) can't help bringing to mind obvious references: Dylan on Jim Flynn's "Smokescreen a Capella Techno Blues" and Brer Brian's "Harlem '99", the Violent Femmes on Lach's "Drinking Beers With Mom", Beck on Paleface's "Say What You Want".
In general, the songwriting is better than the singing, and the singing is better than the playing and production – but then, the rattletrap arrangements and homegrown tape hiss are part of the offhand appeal. The flattened vocals can be a little wearing, which is why the real singers stand out (Diane Cluck, Grey Revell, Patsy Grace). Dawson and Green remain in something of a class by themselves – the oddball lilt of each of their songs makes it easy to see why they were the ones to score first. In particular, Dawson's enigmatic "I'm Fine" (which is also on her solo CD Knock, Knock Who?) is as troubling as it is endearing.
The "antifolk" tag is a little misleading. Sure, the attitude owes a lot to punk, but punk also owed more than it knew to the scuzzier side of the '60s folk revival (for proof, check out Ramblin' Jack Elliott's 1961 duet with Bob Dylan on Eric Von Schmidt's "Acne", in which the lovesick teenage narrator plans to kill his parents with a shotgun). The 20-something smart-asses at the Sidewalk Café are carrying on more traditions than they're breaking. Good for them, and lucky for us. It's a New York scene worth preserving.
â?? 8 November 2002
jadetree
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:55 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
Green's solo is much better than Moldy Peaches, not sure who they opened for.
kurosawa-b/w
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 05:59 PM UTC
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Here's my list:
The Apes
Biffy Clyro
Black Box Recorder
British Sea Power
Broken Social Scene
Dance Disaster Movement
Death Cab For Cutie
Dub Narcotic Sound System
Earlimart
Elefant
The Fever
Les Savy Fav
The Long Winters
Mark Gardener (Ex-Ride)
Moving Units
Oxes
Pilot To Gunner
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Radio 4
The Shins
Shonen Knife
Singapore Sling
South
The Starlight Mints
Stellastarr*
Trachtenberg Family Slideshow Players
The Tyde
Vendetta Red
You Am I
Bags, if you liked Idlewild, you would probably enjoy Biffy Clyro.
Rhett Miller
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 06:04 PM UTC
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You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
Or more like Steve Earle?
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] What is an antifolk artist?
Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
Oh he is quite charming, we went to talk to him and he just picked his nose.
http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html
antifolk is contempory folk. Performed by young guys, charecterised by its earthy sound quick and cheap reocording and a degree of whit and everyday observation in its lyrics. As such Adam Greens new album isnt really antifolk. Its moving closer to absurdist Leonard Coen, but easier to make friends with.
kurosawa-b/w
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 06:06 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggw™:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
The Strokes
ggw
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 06:06 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
Green's solo is much better than Moldy Peaches, not sure who they opened for.
To answer my own question….
It was everyone's favorite 3-car garage band:
http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/43h05.html
ggw
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 06:08 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Originally posted by ggw™:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
The Strokes
ding Ding DING
jadetree
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Re: CMJ Music Fest
August 20, 2003 at 06:08 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
Or more like Steve Earle?
neither, listen here-
http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html