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mmmm. . .chocolate pecan pie. mmmmmmm. . .

tickets seem to only be on sale for the oct. 3 show, not the 4th. strange…

Why arent tickets for the October 4th show on sale?

isnt it traditional to announce one date, let it sell out, then say, "additional date added due to demand"?

If tickets are not selling well why bother doing two half full nights. Just do one full night.

The lucinda Williams show is in the same situation, I believe, right now.

well, they did already announce 2 dates on their site and pollstar, so its not like its a huge secret. alot of bts fans are obsessive and will go to both shows.

Originally posted by letters and soda:
well, they did already announce 2 dates on their site and pollstar, so its not like its a huge secret. alot of bts fans are obsessive and will go to both shows.

I wonder what proportion of people who go to a show are obsessive enough to check the bands website regularly enough to know there are 2 dates?

Pollstar counts for shit. BTW.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
I wonder what proportion of people who go to a show are obsessive enough to check the bands website regularly enough to know there are 2 dates?

Pollstar counts for shit. BTW.

Checking a bands site is obsessive?

Originally posted by jadetree:
[/qb]

Checking a bands site is obsessive [/QB]

Ding ding DING

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Ding ding DING

So you are admitting to being obsessive? I guess I already knew that, nevermind.

I disagree; checking a band's website is helpful.

And why does Pollstar count for shit?

Originally posted by bags:
I disagree; checking a band's website is helpful.

And why does Pollstar count for shit?

yes, but go back to the original question. What proportion of people check a bands website often enough to know there will be two shows with one announced later?

Pollstar is often wrong. It is a good indication of what might happen, more accurate than a weather man, but still can be wide of the mark.

like if BTS dont sell a 100 tickets for the first show, there will presumably not be a second show.

Originally posted by jadetree:

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Ding ding DING

So you are admitting to being obsessive? I guess I already knew that, nevermind.

there are a handful of bands whose website I check once in a while becase if they played a little further afield I would go to see them. But it is a small proportion of the acts I would go and see if they played DC.

most other bands boards make me want to post shit about the band, they are such wanton love ins.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Pollstar is often wrong. It is a good indication of what might happen, more accurate than a weather man, but still can be wide of the mark.

Pollstar misses a lot of the smaller shows at Black Cat, but when have they been wrong about a 9:30 show?

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
but when have they been wrong about a 9:30 show?

Without thinking about it, B52s last year. I am sure there are plenty more.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
but when have they been wrong about a 9:30 show?

Without thinking about it, B52s last year. I am sure there are plenty more.

If I recall correctly, that show was also announced on the B52's website, but shortly thereafter, the whole tour was postponed for some reason. I don't think Pollstar can be blamed in that case.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I don't think Pollstar can be blamed in that case.

It didnt make it to the 930 website though or go on sale. I would say that is exactly the reason pollstar is unreliable.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I don't think Pollstar can be blamed in that case.

It didnt make it to the 930 website though or go on sale. I would say that is exactly the reason pollstar is unreliable.

[pedant]

unreliable

adj 1: liable to be erroneous or misleading; "an undependable generalization" [syn: undependable] 2: not to be trusted [syn: undependable] 3: not worthy of reliance or trust; "in the early 1950s computers were large and expensive and unreliable"; "an undependable assistant" [syn: undependable] [ant: reliable, reliable] 4: dangerously unstable and unpredictable; "treacherous winding roads"; "an unreliable trestle" [syn: treacherous] 5: lacking a sense of responsibility[/pedant]

In my experience, 99% of the shows that Pollstar lists for the 9:30 Club actually occur. That's pretty reliable.

The fact that they list them before the 9:30 Club announces them and before tickets go on sale is a good thing in my opinion.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
[pedant]

Pot……. Kettle……… "you're black"

I think pollstar is good, but the only guarantee a band will play is them actually starting to play. The longer the forecast the more unreliable it is.

My point was "its on the bands website and pollstar"

pollstar having it does not make it more or less likely.

[arse face]

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Originally posted by letters and soda:
well, they did already announce 2 dates on their site and pollstar, so its not like its a huge secret. alot of bts fans are obsessive and will go to both shows.

I wonder what proportion of people who go to a show are obsessive enough to check the bands website regularly enough to know there are 2 dates?

Pollstar counts for shit. BTW.

you're totally right. pollstar is unreliable. so you go to the band's website when you see the show on pollstar. or when someone questions said announcement on the 930 boards.

most times that bts tours (which is not all that often), they play multiple dates in the larger east coast cities. it looks like you are correct, as there are 2 new york dates, but one is sold out. so, if you are right, then i don't have to worry about one show getting sold out and the second not happening. which is the whole reason i created this thread

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

[arse face]

I was self-depracatingly calling myself a pedant.

So I guess you were calling yourself "arse face"?

I just haven't had any bad experience with Pollstar. It seems to me that they announce shows at the same time they appear on the band's website. The 9:30 Club announces them (I'm guessing) once the i's are dotted, the t's are crossed, they are ready to sell tickets, it is Thursday, and somebody updates the site.

Other than the B52s incident (which seemed to be a cancellation, not an error), I can't recall a time that a show erroneously appeared on Pollstar and didn't happen.