kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 05:52 PM UTC
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Originally posted by markie:
jump to last post is doubly annoying as I have to wait for the page to reload and then it doesnt actually take me to my or the last post…..
that means I have to scroll through all the posts just to read Jadetree calling me German at the very end. Its almost not worth it.
I much preffered it the other way around. It was good for getting a converation going. Now it is easy to miss new posts, especially with the frontpage summary not working.
well i'm glad it's not just me that gets wonky results from the "jump to next post feature". all this makes me really nostaglic for caucus the original forum sw used here. that open showed you how many new posts were in a thread and took you to the proper place in the thread.
maybe there is an personal perferences option that could be used. so those who like newest to oldest can have it their way and visa versa.
Darth Ed
Joined: May 19, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 06:49 PM UTC
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I vote for keeping the "first post is first" style. I always, always hated the "first post is last" style of the old boards. It was so freaking annoying reading threads that way, especially multi-page threads… Ugh. Every other board in existence is "first post is first."
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 06:54 PM UTC
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Why is it all of the people who like first post first are unregistered or new members?
How can you post if you are unregistered would be an equally pertinnent question?
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 06:56 PM UTC
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Originally posted by markie:
Why is it all of the people who like first post first are unregistered or new members?
Imposters!
Darth Ed
Joined: May 19, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 06:57 PM UTC
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I am registered. I don't know why the previous post says that I'm not. I've been reading these boards reguarly for several years, and I stand by my statement.
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 07:03 PM UTC
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Well Darth Ed,
I dont remember you ever posting before.
If you posted regularly in a conversational way could you not see how it would be annoying?
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 07:17 PM UTC
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Thanks Paige, that is exactly what I thought.
I wonder who these "unregistered posters" are, trying to come between us all the time.
I bet he likes Stars Wars?
kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 16329
Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 07:17 PM UTC
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couldn't have said it better myself!!! ;)
so basically we need two forums, one for us bored regulars and one for those who come seeking info and to swap recipies… :roll:
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 07:28 PM UTC
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Oh Paige you are naughty…..and I had forgotten all about Samantha. How fickle I am too all but you.
I wonder if he will post again and tell us all what a great movie The Phantom Menace was, so we can all laugh at his expense.
thatguy
Joined: October 20, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1268
Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 08:25 PM UTC
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summary of my thoughts:
i'm all for a color scheme change if that's what most people want.
first posts first is the way it should stay. i've always hated having to scroll backwards through a discussion. not everyone sits here all day checking as each new post is made. for those that don't, it's a pain in the ass to read backwards, especially on multi-page threads. most days when i check in, there are at least three or four long threads that have started since my last check, and reading them in order is much easier on my brain.
as for scrolling, i do less now than i did before thanks to links to the multiple pages, and the jump to new posts feature. besides, i think that whining about scrolling is really pretty lame. is it really that hard? a click of the mouse or a spin of the little wheel is hardly an enormous effort, you lazy bastards.
deleting posts is much easier now, since you have to be logged in the whole time and don't have to re-enter your info. thanks for that. i'm still not gonna manually delete all the crap in the forum, though. especially now that you can set your preferences to only see posts as recent as you want.
thatguy
Joined: October 20, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 08:28 PM UTC
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in addition to all of the above, i'll add this:
maybe making it a little more work to get to the new stuff will make y'all think a little more before you post. you know, improve the signal to noise ratio around these parts. just a thought.
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 08:33 PM UTC
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If you make no other changes, please change the color on the text for the times and dates of the posts. Dark purple on black is simply unreadable.
jadetree
Joined: April 22, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 08:44 PM UTC
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Originally posted by thatguy:
in addition to all of the above, i'll add this:
maybe making it a little more work to get to the new stuff will make y'all think a little more before you post. you know, improve the signal to noise ratio around these parts. just a thought.
The same people who provide the noise on this board are the same people who give a lot of the information that is useful. The board is useless when nobody is posting, the noise keeps people coming back, otherwise it is someone posting every couple of days and is useless.
What was the original point of the board, genuine question, what was the idea of having a board on the site?
Venerable Bede
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 08:51 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggw:
If you make no other changes, please change the color on the text for the times and dates of the posts. Dark purple on black is simply unreadable.
word. and it sure doesn't help when you're colour-blind.
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 09:00 PM UTC
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Originally posted by thatguy:
summary of my thoughts:
not everyone sits here all day checking as each new post is made.
Well this is what I was getting at before. People who only read the board occasionally like first post first. People who use the board a lot like first post last. You are being equally lazy as me in your preference. If not more so, as I look at posts 100 times a day, so 100 scrollings, vs you, 1 time a day, 1 scrolling.
Last post first does encourage more rapid fire discussion, it just saves time and is more direct. If that is not what you want on the board, if you dont like the "noise" well that is up to you.
Perhaps you should use another forum? :p
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 09:14 PM UTC
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Originally posted by markie:
Well this is what I was getting at before. People who only read the board occasionally like first post first. People who use the board a lot like first post last.
I think the occasional users outnumber the regulars by maybe 100:1 (assuming there are 2000 members and 20 regular posters). So should the board be designed for the benefit of the greatest number of people or for the benefit of the frequent users?
I have no opinion on first-post-first. I think it will just take some getting accustomed to.
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: comments on new forum
May 21, 2003 at 09:24 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggw:
Originally posted by markie:
[qb] outnumber the regulars by maybe 100:1 (assuming there are 2000 members and 20 regular posters).
2000 members since 1999,
I wonder how many of those were alter egos? Of the rest how many of those actually read the board still. And still, of those it is possible that some read it often during the day without posting.
I would say your numbers and therefore premise is flawed.