bags
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 06:42 PM UTC
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Originally posted by MindCage:
I always bring a party to the 930 Club
I AM a party at the 930 Club.
I think organizedconfusion's initial point, though, is true – far more shows sell out. Whether in minutes or the day before the show. Without pointing to particular shows, but overall, the sellout ratio is incredibly high, much higher than it used to be. It's amazing, and I think good for business and good for DC as a "must stop" city, but it does suck for me personally.
I think it's the internet not just in terms of the information about shows, but also the new one-hit wonders (Arctic Monkeys, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, etc) that become huge MP3 phenoms. And the kids are savvy with the MP3 world.
hornsntails
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 09:40 PM UTC
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
have the deftones gotten more popular lately? i thought they were at their biggest in the late-90s … "my own summer (shove it)" is still my favorite "nu-metal" song OF ALL TIME!
perhaps the Taste Of Chaos tour might've given them a bit of a popularity boost.
palahniukkubrick
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 09:53 PM UTC
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People want to be able to say that they saw whatever is the next big thing before they became big. Arcade Fire, Sufjan, Franz Ferdinand, even Maroon 5 were getting tons of buzz when they booked their 9:30 shows, and people wanted to tell their buddies that they saw them in a little club. Indie really is the new mainstream.
As for why Deftones, a band whose popularity peaked years ago, sold out 9:30, I don't know.
thebirdsflyhigh
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 10:16 PM UTC
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i think its a good thing shows are selling out, it makes bands feel more welcome when they come to dc. this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it. if you don't like the state of the current 930 club then stop complaining and go to like the sidebar or some backstage show at blackcat.
Rhett Miller
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 10:20 PM UTC
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It has nothing to do with pretentiousness. It has everything to do with respect for the performers and the people around you.
Originally posted by dia:
this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it.
nkotb
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 10:21 PM UTC
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But they're keeping the scene alive!
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
It has nothing to do with pretentiousness. It has everything to do with respect for the performers and the people around you.
Originally posted by dia:
this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it.
chaz
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 10:35 PM UTC
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Originally posted by dia:
this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it. if you don't like the state of the current 930 club then stop complaining and go to like the sidebar or some backstage show at blackcat.
Take a lesson from yourself. If you don't like the pretentious old farts on this board then take a hike over to the hfs board or wherever all the teenyboppers go these days.
hostiledm
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 10:43 PM UTC
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Originally posted by you be pickup:
As for why Deftones, a band whose popularity peaked years ago, sold out 9:30, I don't know.
because they keep making great music.
organizedconfusion
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 11:11 PM UTC
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I dont know anyone who stops going to 930 because there is too many young people. Thats just bullshit.
I think the problem with selling out so fast is that, people have the money to throw around and casually go to 930 to see bands that they dont really KNOW about. So it could be the complete opposite. The more people who make 100,000 a year get season tickets to 930.
hornsntails
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 16, 2006 at 11:30 PM UTC
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Originally posted by hostiledm:
Originally posted by you be pickup:
As for why Deftones, a band whose popularity peaked years ago, sold out 9:30, I don't know.
because they keep making great music.
most DEFFINETLY
helicon1
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 01:41 AM UTC
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Originally posted by organizedconfusion:
I think the problem with selling out so fast is that, people have the money to throw around and casually go to 930 to see bands that they dont really KNOW about. So it could be the complete opposite. The more people who make 100,000 a year get season tickets to 930.
I can't imagine this as being a reason for shows selling out faster and more frequently. Back in my college days (late 90's), I went to the old Black Cat plenty of times to check out bands I didn't really know. Same with the 9:30. And yes kiddies, both places existed in different buildings prior to their current incarnation ;)
you be betty
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 02:20 AM UTC
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Originally posted by dia:
i think its a good thing shows are selling out, it makes bands feel more welcome when they come to dc. this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it. if you don't like the state of the current 930 club then stop complaining and go to like the sidebar or some backstage show at blackcat.
See, this is where I disagree; because I'm one of those "kids" that is active in the scene, has been for a while, and will be for a while to come; and I NEVER talk on my phone during a band's set. I've been going to shows in the area since I was a mere 11 years old, and even I knew then not to talk on a phone in the middle of a band's set. The people that are doing the talking are not necessarily teenyboppers, they are just rude. I have seen plenty of cute little hipsters jabbering on their sidekicks during shows. It's not being pretentious…it's being respectful to who is on stage.
thebirdsflyhigh
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 02:44 AM UTC
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See, this is where I disagree; because I'm one of those "kids" that is active in the scene, has been for a while, and will be for a while to come; and I NEVER talk on my phone during a band's set. I've been going to shows in the area since I was a mere 11 years old, and even I knew then not to talk on a phone in the middle of a band's set. The people that are doing the talking are not necessarily teenyboppers, they are just rude. I have seen plenty of cute little hipsters jabbering on their sidekicks during shows. It's not being pretentious…it's being respectful to who is on stage.
i agree with you, i am also young and have been involved in the scene for a long time. i think it is awful when kids talk on their phones or text message during bands. i was refering to the people who condemn the scenesters as being pretentious. all i ever seem to see on this board is people who make fun of kids for having like going to shows for the "wrong" reasons and going only to be cool; which is not me and not most of the kids. i don't see why the older concert goers have the right to say who deserves to be at a show more. i may have misinterpreted but thats what the majority of these topics not necessarily this thread seem to be on.
you be betty
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 03:34 AM UTC
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I think you misinterpreted; because I've never had a problem with anyone on these boards. And I get offended kind of easily, sometimes. But I love everyone on here. Sometimes people make sarcastic remarks, but they are easily laughed off. I'm amused.
I also don't think there is anything wrong with texting during a band, because while it may be viewed by some as rude; you aren't really disturbing anyone elses' ability to watch the show at that point…
bags
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 03:45 AM UTC
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Originally posted by you be pickup:
People want to be able to say that they saw whatever is the next big thing before they became big. Arcade Fire, Sufjan, Franz Ferdinand
But why would this be
different now from 6 years ago, say? I think that's the question being asked here. It's always been cool to "see them when they were nobodies" – why SO MANY sell out shows now versus 1997??
bags
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 03:46 AM UTC
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
It has nothing to do with pretentiousness. It has everything to do with respect for the performers and the people around you.
Originally posted by dia:
this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it.
I've been going to shows and buying albums – even now, in the face of all those free downloads – for 20 years, Dia. I'm still around and supporting the shows.
bags
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 03:49 AM UTC
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Originally posted by organizedconfusion:
The more people who make 100,000 a year get season tickets to 930.
OH how you mock. IF ONLY there were a season pass, my friend. With VIP access - HO boy. Dare to dream. ;0
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: why does everything sell out so fast?
February 17, 2006 at 04:58 AM UTC
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Originally posted by dia:
all i ever seem to see on this board is people who make fun of kids for having like going to shows for the "wrong" reasons and going only to be cool; … i may have misinterpreted but thats what the majority of these topics not necessarily this thread seem to be on.
it's too bad they don't teach reading comprehension in our schools any more