why does everything sell out so fast?

I want a season pass. I'm old. I still like new music. Now I have the bucks to pay for it. How can I get one?

Seth? C'mon, let's really rile up the masses. You're for capitalism. It's win/win. I've paid my dues over the years seeing countless bands and spending a gazillion dollars on drinks. I'll pay you for the ability to get in on pre-sales before anyone else. A season pass, yes!. And not a public pre-sale code, a private one. Each season pass member, who pays for the privelge, gets a unique passcode. The technology exists.

Let's do it. My checkbook/credit card is ready.

I like the idea of taking care of regulars, but I don't want to create an elitist thing that makes others feel left out

we had a discussion a couple years back of how to do this, and there were some good ideas…just never pulled the trigger…fact is we're just too busy trying to pull off what we do now

as far as things selling out too fast - yes, the hot shows sell out as fast as the bytes can travel, but there's no new foul play going on

I think more & more people have figured out how to get in on it

however…what I have no sympathy for is the people that whine about getting shut out of shows that were on sale for plenty of time

Originally posted by Glass Arm Shattering:
And yes kiddies, both places existed in different buildings prior to their current incarnation ;)

This is one of the reasons we're looking forward to playing the Black Cat next week. The band was the last band to play upstairs at The Cage before The Black Cat moved down a few doors ;) Of course this was before I joined it but I remember the show very well. Gotta watch out for those low ceiling otherwise you might crack your head open while rockin out!
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Originally posted by dia:
this board is incredibly pretentious talking about the kids who talk and their phones and what not, those are the kids that are going to keep going to the shows when everyone who has been active in the scene for the past decade get out of it.

so all those people who yap on their cell phones the entire show are the "real fans"????

thats the silliest thing i have heard all week!

Originally posted by dia:
i may have misinterpreted

grossly.

Originally posted by you be pickup:
People want to be able to say that they saw whatever is the next big thing before they became big.

I saw the Crippled Pilgrims before they became big!

I still maintain that the phrase "Indie is the new mainstream" is down right silly… Granted that Indie music had gained "acceptence" within the mainstream rock audience, indie bands still aren't selling mainstream numbers of records.

The better phrase to toss glibly around is "Indie is now a viable alternative".

"Indie" rock labels began making a mark on college radio in the 80s, yet the coverage was still limited to traditional print media or zines with limited distribution. The internet has definitely helped indie acts get the word out and more easily sell thier product. Gone are the days of thumbing through a zine and not having to send a mail order off for a record that sounds interesting. Or hoping your local record store could track it donw on a special order. CDBaby, Amazon, etc make albums easier to obtain. A review can now spark googling for the bands website and other reviews, so not everything is bought on a leap of faith.

the real trend i see is that the post-nirvana phrase "alternative rock" to describe watered-down grunge music is pretty much dead … but i've been seeing "mainstream indie" groups like DCFC and Franz being referred to as "alt-rock" lately

Kosmo, I agree. Even shameless hucksters like Oasis are miles better than *real* mainstream. My god, just turn on Top 40 radio for 10 minutes, it's hard for anything indie to *ever* approach that.