DC101-maybe a reason why DC has no music scene..

Originally posted by hitman:
If it hasn't been figured out yet, I'm an elem. school art teacher.
You have my condolences.

I've been there. Sort of. I paid my dues in both elementary and middle school art classrooms. Well, that was when I actually had a classroom. I was in the worst of the Baltimore Shitty ghettos; much less pay; no supplies; no cooperation from any angle; constant assults on me, physically, verbally, mentally and emotionally; a completely ineffective union who ended up working against us; and a whole lot more other crap that you just couldn't even imagine in your worst nightmares. At least, that nightmare for me is over and done with forever and ever. ;)
i wish you were my art teacher…my art teacher was mean and always sent me to time out then gave me an N because i didn't do the work.( i was in fuckin time out!)

did you always ask your students to bring in paper towel rolls and stuff? did you tell them they could ask their neighbors and relatives?
Originally posted by King Dons:
Originally posted by hitman:
If it hasn't been figured out yet, I'm an elem. school art teacher.
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Christ! That's not flattering at all. But I guess that was the point.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by hitman:
If it hasn't been figured out yet, I'm an elem. school art teacher.
You have my condolences.

I've been there. Sort of. I paid my dues in both elementary and middle school art classrooms. Well, that was when I actually had a classroom. I was in the worst of the Baltimore Shitty ghettos; much less pay; no supplies; no cooperation from any angle; constant assults on me, physically, verbally, mentally and emotionally; a completely ineffective union who ended up working against us; and a whole lot more other crap that you just couldn't even imagine in your worst nightmares. At least, that nightmare for me is over and done with forever and ever. ;)
I don't work in Balt., but I can say that all of those things have happened to me (except the classroom, I do have my own) but not by kids, by adults, i.e. parents, administration, board of ed., etc. And to boot, by wife and I are both teachers and can't afford a house in our district. What a way to say thanks, huh? If you are not teaching anymore, what do you do? I'd love ideas. It is a pretty narrow field with both a B.S. and M.A. in Art Education.
Originally posted by flawd101:
i wish you were my art teacher…my art teacher was mean and always sent me to time out then gave me an N because i didn't do the work.( i was in fuckin time out!)

did you always ask your students to bring in paper towel rolls and stuff? did you tell them they could ask their neighbors and relatives?
I have a baseball rule, three strikes-you're out (in this case time out). You fuck up three times, see ya! Normally I don't have that much trouble.

I don't ask for paper towel rolls and stuff. The germ factor is just a little too frightening for me, when some booger picker brings in TP rolls with one sheet left. My mind starts to wander, not a happy place! The only thing I ask for are smocks and yogurt cups with lids for paint.
This man is a homosexual. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Originally posted by King Dons:
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Typical
DC101 Fare
for me there were no second chances…

where do you work?
Originally posted by flawd101:
for me there were no second chances…

where do you work?
I'm almost afraid to say. Let's just say I've been smacked on the wrist before for publically airing district laundry.

You never said, what do you do now?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
This man is a homosexual. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
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Originally posted by hitman:
Christ! That's not flattering at all. But I guess that was the point.
Do you personally own an electric kiln that's just like Mr.Jellineck's?
Originally posted by King Dons:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
This man is a homosexual. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
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Originally posted by hitman:
Christ! That's not flattering at all. But I guess that was the point.
Do you personally own an electric kiln that's just like Mr.Jellineck's?
I don't personally own a kiln, but there is an electric one at my school.
Originally posted by hitman:
Originally posted by flawd101:
for me there were no second chances…

where do you work?
I'm almost afraid to say. Let's just say I've been smacked on the wrist before for publically airing district laundry.

You never said, what do you do now?
LOLOL. This is a first. Flawd and I confused as being the same person.

I, more or less, told Baltimore Shitty to shove it up their ass and quit. Now I'm an activities coordinator in a very large nursing home, even though they don't call them that now. :D They are a blast!! I'm paid to play with and host parties for the demented. I totally love the job and am very good at it but am looking for something completely different now. Not that I want to because I don't at all but have no choice. This job pays much less than half what I was making teaching, which was even less than you make in a better county, and I'm single so have that much less money in my household with absolutely no tax breaks. Not even allowed to claim Head of Household. Fuckers. Also, we were sort of told that we won't be receiving raises so that they can give the raises to the already highly paid nurses. Typical! So, after my rental increase, in real pay, that's more like a pay cut.

Sorry, but I have absolutely no career advise that I can share with you other than to get the Hell out of teaching asap!!! I've got a BFA from the Maryland Institute of Art, an MLA from Johns Hopkins and the equivalant of a 2nd Masters, mostly in waste of time Education classes and can't find anything else to save my life. And as you know, if I don't keep taking classes, I'll lose my certification which means that I can't teach in a government run school anymore, which is the only damn thing it's good for. Ironically, without that, they would fire me and replace me with a slightly cheaper teacher without a certification who then must work their ass off working on obtaining one. In fact, a couple years ago, while job hunting, I found out that many of the Teach For America people who have no certifications or any Education classes or teaching experience were actually being paid MORE than many teachers in the same schools who had certifications and Education degrees!!! How unfair and twisted is that!? Since I've quit, I've decided to tell the State to fuck off too by refusing to keep up that waste of time piece of paper. I've figured out that in the long run, it's nothing but a scam to keep tons of money going into the colleges at our expense. The other irony, many other employers who fall for many of the myths of what is happening in Education won't hire us because they think we can't do anything but teach yet are the very same ones who expect teachers to do anything and everything in the classroom on top of trying to teach.

You are far from the only teacher in any system who has been reprimanded for speaking the truth about how dysfuntional the school systems are. I've known of several teachers who got in trouble for saying almost nothing. Can't believe that they never got on my case about all that I would say. Probably only because it wasn't to the media. Fuck them! They can't fire me now so I'll say whatever I want to say about them and it's all, sadly, the God's truth! Anyone who doesn't believe me needs to spend some time in a real classroom in the very same capacity as any real teacher instead of some office in a paper castle of illusion or in front of the big propaganda run boob tube.

You may have very recently read about some principal in a Baltimore Shitty school who was just fired because he graduated students who had failed some tests, or something like that. (I've only barely kept up with it.) Well, as they say, he just got caught. They've been doing that sort of stuff for years and years. It's also quite common for the administration to change report card grades that teacher's labored over so that they could make the school look better. The reason they do that is so that the numbers look better for the school. And they do that because their bosses and the dumb-ass politicians only send money to schools with numbers they like, if you catch my drift. I bet they do that crap in your schools too. Of course, they prefer that the public continue the wording of the 'teachers' pass the students on when it is really the 'administrators' and other bosses, often via policy, who are really the ones passing the undeserved on.
Sorry that I got you and Flawd confused. I realized that after I posted and figured let it ride.

I feel so much better now about my professional career. I might as well put my head in an oven.
I don't know. I just don't get the feeling this is why DC has no music scene.

Originally posted by Jaguär:
LOLOL. This is a first. Flawd and I confused as being the same person.

I, more or less, told Baltimore Shitty to shove it up their ass and quit. Now I'm an activities coordinator in a very large nursing home, even though they don't call them that now. :D They are a blast!! I'm paid to play with and host parties for the demented. I totally love the job and am very good at it but am looking for something completely different now. Not that I want to because I don't at all but have no choice. This job pays much less than half what I was making teaching, which was even less than you make in a better county, and I'm single so have that much less money in my household with absolutely no tax breaks. Not even allowed to claim Head of Household. Fuckers. Also, we were sort of told that we won't be receiving raises so that they can give the raises to the already highly paid nurses. Typical! So, after my rental increase, in real pay, that's more like a pay cut.

Sorry, but I have absolutely no career advise that I can share with you other than to get the Hell out of teaching asap!!! I've got a BFA from the Maryland Institute of Art, an MLA from Johns Hopkins and the equivalant of a 2nd Masters, mostly in waste of time Education classes and can't find anything else to save my life. And as you know, if I don't keep taking classes, I'll lose my certification which means that I can't teach in a government run school anymore, which is the only damn thing it's good for. Ironically, without that, they would fire me and replace me with a slightly cheaper teacher without a certification who then must work their ass off working on obtaining one. In fact, a couple years ago, while job hunting, I found out that many of the Teach For America people who have no certifications or any Education classes or teaching experience were actually being paid MORE than many teachers in the same schools who had certifications and Education degrees!!! How unfair and twisted is that!? Since I've quit, I've decided to tell the State to fuck off too by refusing to keep up that waste of time piece of paper. I've figured out that in the long run, it's nothing but a scam to keep tons of money going into the colleges at our expense. The other irony, many other employers who fall for many of the myths of what is happening in Education won't hire us because they think we can't do anything but teach yet are the very same ones who expect teachers to do anything and everything in the classroom on top of trying to teach.

You are far from the only teacher in any system who has been reprimanded for speaking the truth about how dysfuntional the school systems are. I've known of several teachers who got in trouble for saying almost nothing. Can't believe that they never got on my case about all that I would say. Probably only because it wasn't to the media. Fuck them! They can't fire me now so I'll say whatever I want to say about them and it's all, sadly, the God's truth! Anyone who doesn't believe me needs to spend some time in a real classroom in the very same capacity as any real teacher instead of some office in a paper castle of illusion or in front of the big propaganda run boob tube.

You may have very recently read about some principal in a Baltimore Shitty school who was just fired because he graduated students who had failed some tests, or something like that. (I've only barely kept up with it.) Well, as they say, he just got caught. They've been doing that sort of stuff for years and years. It's also quite common for the administration to change report card grades that teacher's labored over so that they could make the school look better. The reason they do that is so that the numbers look better for the school. And they do that because their bosses and the dumb-ass politicians only send money to schools with numbers they like, if you catch my drift. I bet they do that crap in your schools too. Of course, they prefer that the public continue the wording of the 'teachers' pass the students on when it is really the 'administrators' and other bosses, often via policy, who are really the ones passing the undeserved on.
Originally posted by econo:
I don't know. I just don't get the feeling this is why DC has no music scene.

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Oh my, and this would be the first forum ever that went off topic, or where a tangent took place, or where other conversation took place.
Originally posted by hitman:
I feel so much better now about my professional career. I might as well put my head in an oven.
…Or an electric kiln?
Originally posted by econo:
I don't know. I just don't get the feeling this is why DC has no music scene.

Originally posted by Jaguär:
Sorry, but I have absolutely no career advise that I can share with you other than to get the Hell out of teaching asap!!!
So limited in your thinking, Thirsty…see outside the box! Beyond the four corners of the document!! :D
If straying from original topics annoyed me, I would have left this forum a long time ago! I thought Jaguar's post was an odd stray though, that's all.
Ditto…..And I was only poking fun. Your response was just so funny – so short, deadpan and straightforward after Jaguar's very extensive rant. I loved your post, couldn't you tell?
You should hear others impersonations of me then…

Originally posted by Bags:
Your response was just so funny – so short, deadpan and straightforward after Jaguar's very extensive rant.
"Uhhhh, I mean, I'm gonna go."

Originally posted by econo:
You should hear others impersonations of me then…

Originally posted by Bags:
Your response was just so funny – so short, deadpan and straightforward after Jaguar's very extensive rant.