Wed Rock (feat. Rollins, Mould, Bernhardt, etc.)

Press release here: http://idisk.mac.com/granarymusic/Public/wedrockpr.pdf

Should be an interesting show. Sandra will apparently be with full band and there might be some other surprises lined up. Kind of cool that Rollins is doing this as well, good for him. It will also be fun see Rich Morel perform…I hope that he'll have his band there.

for Mr. Chutney…

General admission tickets are $40. VIP tickets are available for purchase at $100, giving
the ticket-holder exclusive balcony access, complimentary cocktails courtesy of Svedka
Vodka and entry to an after-show â??meet-and-greetâ? with several of the eveningâ??s
performers.

AAAARRRRGH! Freedom to marry. Bleh.

How about this? How about Freedom NOT to marry? How about what the hell is the government doing in the business of marriage anyway? How about marriage laws all discriminate against single people? How about THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE SANCTIONING MARRIAGE!

Let's do away with marriage licenses. Wanna get married? Do it between yourself, your partner, and your loved ones. Why should the general public need to be involved?

(end angry feminist rant)

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
How about Freedom NOT to marry?

Have you been living in a cultural vacuum? The benefit is to allow homosexuals to marry.

Even Rhett will have a reason to attend:

Seattleâ??s premiere gay alt-country darlins Purty Mouth

thanks kosmo.

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
How about Freedom NOT to marry?

Have you been living in a cultural vacuum? The benefit is to allow homosexuals to marry.

Yeah, but turn the argument on its head. Why add to a flawed system? Government intervention in marriage is useless. Let's scrap the civic portion of marriage and let people get married to whomever they want but on their own, without a public function.

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Yeah, but turn the argument on its head. Why add to a flawed system? Government intervention in marriage is useless. Let's scrap the civic portion of marriage and let people get married to whomever they want but on their own, without a public function.

What "public function" are you talking about?

Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Yeah, but turn the argument on its head. Why add to a flawed system? Government intervention in marriage is useless. Let's scrap the civic portion of marriage and let people get married to whomever they want but on their own, without a public function.

What "public function" are you talking about?

The public function of tax breaks, partner benefits, etc., etc…

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Yeah, but turn the argument on its head. Why add to a flawed system? Government intervention in marriage is useless. Let's scrap the civic portion of marriage and let people get married to whomever they want but on their own, without a public function.

What "public function" are you talking about?

The public function of tax breaks, partner benefits, etc., etc…

That's productive…then millions of stay at home moms and dads will be without health coverage. The idea is to extend health coverage to more people, not less.

I don't see that marriage is a flawd system. Despite my grumpiness on the board, marriage has generally made me a happier person. How is that a flaw?

Originally posted by chaz:

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Yeah, but turn the argument on its head. Why add to a flawed system? Government intervention in marriage is useless. Let's scrap the civic portion of marriage and let people get married to whomever they want but on their own, without a public function.

What "public function" are you talking about?

The public function of tax breaks, partner benefits, etc., etc…

That's productive…then millions of stay at home moms and dads will be without health coverage. The idea is to extend health coverage to more people, not less.

You read a lot in to partner benefits. I never said take health care away. But don't get me started on health care. It should be FAR easier to get/deal with. I should probably live in Canada.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
How is that a flaw?

Right now, cuz you're allowed to do it and others aren't.

It's not a flaw for me.

I'm all for gay marriage, straight marraige, whatever.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
How is that a flaw?

Right now, cuz you're allowed to do it and others aren't.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by chaz:

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
Yeah, but turn the argument on its head. Why add to a flawed system? Government intervention in marriage is useless. Let's scrap the civic portion of marriage and let people get married to whomever they want but on their own, without a public function.

What "public function" are you talking about?

The public function of tax breaks, partner benefits, etc., etc…

That's productive…then millions of stay at home moms and dads will be without health coverage. The idea is to extend health coverage to more people, not less.

You read a lot in to partner benefits. I never said take health care away. But don't get me started on health care. It should be FAR easier to get/deal with. I should probably live in Canada.

Yeah I figured…I just tend to be more of a realist than an idealist about these things, and the institution of marriage, for better or worse, isn't going anywhere.

*edit* sorry for the quote inside of a quote inside of a quote inside of a quote…

You should probably take better care of your health.

Originally posted by Bags:

You read a lot in to partner benefits. I never said take health care away. But don't get me started on health care. It should be FAR easier to get/deal with. I should probably live in Canada. [/QB]

As a gay man, I really don't give a damn whether or not it is called marriage. But I feel like I am discriminated against because the person I choose to care about is the same sex as me. The current government (let's face it) does NOT favor dregs of society…and that includes gay people. (Not that I think gay people are dregs of society…just insert sarcasm there.) Generally, yes, marriage is a fucked up institution. I see it around me all the time (my own parents are proof). But I don't want to do things they way they did, and that doesn't mean that as a gay man I still cannot stand up for other people like me who DO love each other and want the same benefits and legal perks that straight married folks get. Besides, this is just a rock'n'roll show. It would be great to see as many of you as possible show up to this gig. It would mean a lot to me and the folks that put this together. I am trying to help them get the word out. I know it's a lot of dough to fork over, but I really think it will be a great evening and Henry Rollins is always a hoot. You can count on some great performances by Morel and Bob Mould, not to mention Sandra.

If Bill Clinton lived in Canada, it would have taken him 39 days to get the bypass surgery he got in three days in the U.S.

Originally posted by Bags:
I never said take health care away. But don't get me started on health care. It should be FAR easier to get/deal with. I should probably live in Canada.

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
without a public function.

If you have kids it stops them being bastards.

I thought that was part of the tax break, the marriage is supposed to be a stable relationship within which you raise children.

Personally I coulldnt give two hoots about marriage and I think anyone should be able to marry if that is your thing.

I guess the government has to be involved for things like immigration and to keep track of its morally upright citizens.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
If Bill Clinton lived in Canada, it would have taken him 39 days to get the bypass surgery he got in three days in the U.S.

But if Clinton were poor and had no health insurance how long would it have taken him to get bypass surgery?