The Police Roll Call (7/20/07)

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
BTW, Whitlock is a fucking hack. Did you see his quote that hip-hop should be blamed for Michael Vick's dogfighting??? And NO, I swear that's not a misquote.
I'm not an African-American but I have to disagree with your statement that Whitlock is a "hack" when he can make a statement like this:

"Black American culture has been hijacked by idiots. Weâ??ve allowed uneducated people to speak for us and set our agenda. The idiots told us they were going to turn "N–a" into a term of endearment. The idiots told us that if we embrace prison culture/hip-hop culture thereâ??s a pot of gold for all of us at the end of it. The idiots donâ??t tell you about the jail cell or the coffin that awaits 99 percent of the folks who embrace prison culture. There are more "rappers" in jail than in college or working a 9-to-5. That story never gets told. For every Jay-Z or Russell Simmons, there are 2,000 guys in a small sweaty box writing rhymes and fantasizing about a record deal that will never come. I donâ??t really blame the idiots. Theyâ??re the leaders because too many educated black people, particularly our religious leaders, are cowards. Weâ??re afraid to deal with the backlash Bill Cosby endured. Weâ??d rather get invited to Snoop Doggâ??s next party or accept a check from Def Jam rather than stand up for what we believe. "

- Jason Whitlock


Brian
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
BTW, Whitlock is a fucking hack. Did you see his quote that hip-hop should be blamed for Michael Vick's dogfighting??? And NO, I swear that's not a misquote.
I'm not an African-American but I have to disagree with your statement that Whitlock is a "hack" when he can make a statement like this:

"Black American culture has been hijacked by idiots. Weâ??ve allowed uneducated people to speak for us and set our agenda. The idiots told us they were going to turn "N–a" into a term of endearment. The idiots told us that if we embrace prison culture/hip-hop culture thereâ??s a pot of gold for all of us at the end of it. The idiots donâ??t tell you about the jail cell or the coffin that awaits 99 percent of the folks who embrace prison culture. There are more "rappers" in jail than in college or working a 9-to-5. That story never gets told. For every Jay-Z or Russell Simmons, there are 2,000 guys in a small sweaty box writing rhymes and fantasizing about a record deal that will never come. I donâ??t really blame the idiots. Theyâ??re the leaders because too many educated black people, particularly our religious leaders, are cowards. Weâ??re afraid to deal with the backlash Bill Cosby endured. Weâ??d rather get invited to Snoop Doggâ??s next party or accept a check from Def Jam rather than stand up for what we believe. "

- Jason Whitlock


Brian
Hear, here, my point exactly and I AM a black guy.. umm African American. Director is pissed at him for getting front row at a Police show, taking up two seats, and then blocking his view trying to dance with his big ass during Roxanne. :p
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
just got my rilo kiley tix, should be a good show
Which night?
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
BTW, Whitlock is a fucking hack. Did you see his quote that hip-hop should be blamed for Michael Vick's dogfighting??? And NO, I swear that's not a misquote.
I'm not an African-American but I have to disagree with your statement that Whitlock is a "hack" when he can make a statement like this:

"Black American culture has been hijacked by idiots. Weâ??ve allowed uneducated people to speak for us and set our agenda. The idiots told us they were going to turn "N–a" into a term of endearment. The idiots told us that if we embrace prison culture/hip-hop culture thereâ??s a pot of gold for all of us at the end of it. The idiots donâ??t tell you about the jail cell or the coffin that awaits 99 percent of the folks who embrace prison culture. There are more "rappers" in jail than in college or working a 9-to-5. That story never gets told. For every Jay-Z or Russell Simmons, there are 2,000 guys in a small sweaty box writing rhymes and fantasizing about a record deal that will never come. I donâ??t really blame the idiots. Theyâ??re the leaders because too many educated black people, particularly our religious leaders, are cowards. Weâ??re afraid to deal with the backlash Bill Cosby endured. Weâ??d rather get invited to Snoop Doggâ??s next party or accept a check from Def Jam rather than stand up for what we believe. "

- Jason Whitlock


Brian
Hear, here, my point exactly and I AM a black guy.. umm African American. Director is pissed at him for getting front row at a Police show, taking up two seats, and then blocking his view trying to dance with his big ass during Roxanne. :D
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Anywho as far as Whitlock's quote, I think there's a time & place for everything. This ain't either. I will leave an emphatic "No comment", & keep it moving. I will not succumb to the Voices Inside My Head . . .
Well, Truth Hits Everybody


Brian
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
just got my rilo kiley tix, should be a good show
Which night?
i believe thurs, but i have to check with my gf about that
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
just got my rilo kiley tix, should be a good show
Which night?
i believe thurs, but i have to check with my gf about that
I'll probably have to fly back Thurs, but I plan to make Wednesday's show.
Just got back from NYC after catching them at the Garden last night, GREAT fucking show! From some of the reviews I read I was expecting some of the songs to be a real jam snoozefest and for Sting to play solo artist onstage but personally I thought the songs were pretty concise with minimal noodling (save "Roxanne" but I was kinda expecting that haha) and it was very much a team effort from my vantage point. Great sound, stage setup, light show and crowd to boot (almost everyone remained standing for the entire 2 hour show). So…no complaints on my end.
This thread brings back so many emotions…I'm still upset about it!
$56M and you only get 3 measly bedrooms? At least it's "pet friendly". Also nice that they threw in a washer/dryer.
vansmack wrote:
This thread brings back so many emotions…I'm still upset about it!


Disgust is my biggest emotion. I'm glad Sting has never gotten a dime of my money.
I kinda wish I'd seen the Police once…. I think they played Pimlico? I think that was the time to do it if you lived in this area and missed them in the 80s but for whatever reason when the Police reunited I had no interest in seeing them…….at the same time I have a visceral almost psychotic dislike for Sting.. usually disliking a musician's personality isn't really an issue for me but in his case I loathe him…I really wanted to see the Police more for Copeland and Summers I guess…. Sting's voice has lost so much range and the Police's music (the songs) hasn't aged that well…

back in the early to mid 80s the Police was one of my favorite bands….I suppose Sting broke my heart when he ended the band and that is rather immature of me…but nothing that has happened since has done anything other than make him seem like a bigger pompous ass than he was then….I should have known what an ass he was when I was reading about how he wrote Synchronicity on the same desk as Ian Fleming wrote 007 and he was reading Jung and blah blah blah…but I was 12!!!!
Was a fan back in the day and agree the music hasn't aged well, but that can be said for a lot of the stuff from that time period.

The Pimlico show got good reviews, from what I recall, but I wasn't at all impressed. The wife and I ended up leaving early.

Bono is probably the musician I despise the most, tho.
StoneTheCrow wrote:
Bono is probably the musician I despise the most, tho.

fyi, you get more ScenePoints™ if you hate thom yorke instead of bono.
sweetcell wrote:
StoneTheCrow wrote:
Bono is probably the musician I despise the most, tho.

fyi, you get more ScenePoints™ if you hate thom yorke instead of bono.

dunno…chris martin and Kanye really drive me to drink, hard
but those two come in right behind

I think a  ScenePoints™ thread should be in order

StoneTheCrow wrote:
Bono is probably the musician I despise the most, tho.
Agreed.
Julian, wrote:
StoneTheCrow wrote:
Bono is probably the musician I despise the most, tho.
Agreed.


Have we just decided that Ted Nugent isn't a musician?  Or Kid Rock?  Or Gene Simmons?  Sure Bono can be a bit preachy, and at time hypocritical, but I don't understand the ire.
  It's tough, because, at least to me, this seems like it notes the current musical impact and general douchbaggery of the named artists. That unholy musical trifecta possibly fail to rank as musical entities for most on this board.
  Besides Rock, have any of those "artists" have released new work in the past ten years (I can think of Ted's time in that terrible reality show Damnocracy band and knowing that makes me sad)? Do/would people still buy a Ted Nugent or Kiss album?
  In that I was meaning to say that those three might be worse people, but not many prescribe any level of musical weight to their legacy. They also have the Donal Trump "real" factor. The idea that they are what they are. Where as with someone like Bono and Chris Martin (and Sting), as adults can we really buy into their hippie or Christian or platitude spitting make the world a better place hogwash as they sit on gilded toilets (assumption) and shelter their wealth.