markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:05 PM UTC
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so you dont like the clash or the VU…..
Then again, I ask:
If you like singers so much why dont you just listen to Mariah Carey, or Christina Aguilera, or Celine Dion. they are all much better singers than any anyone I have in my collection?
markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:08 PM UTC
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Originally posted by mankie:
Were did New Order come from?? But your point is a good one. I guess Joy Division was getting played in the manc clubs more than anywhere else which is why I think of them before New Order
Bernie it is then.
I dunno, I like Joy Division and its a tragedy that Ian died. But I do wonder if they would have gone on to be as god as New order turned out to be otherwise.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:10 PM UTC
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I like the Clash. I don't think Joe Strummer was much of a singer.
I don't like the VU.
Fortunately, there exists other bands other than the two subsets you describe: bands you like, and Celine Dion styled pop offerings.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:22 PM UTC
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I never said it was important. You'll have to ask the rock critics who proclaimed it "important" why they feel it's important.
Joy Division was just a minor blip on my own music radar. They used to play them at the local dance club and i got drunk and danced to them when I was 21. I remember thinking the guy couldn't hold a tune to save his life and much preferring the band they evolved into.
As I said, I haven't listened to them in at least 10 years. We heard the song, she stated her opinion, and I agreed. Sometimes we don't but on this one we did.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] One of the great things about being married to someone who is not a total music-head who has good taste is that she can give me an honest opinion based on her own taste and not biased by what some dumbass rock music historian has told her she's supposed to like, because it's "important".
Which begs the question…what made it important? …and why did you need your wife to come to that decision for you?
markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:31 PM UTC
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Wasnt love will tear us apart voted the best song ever on some list or other just recently. Its better, in my opinion, than U2's one.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:35 PM UTC
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Well, hell if people voted on it, then forgive me, I must be wrong. The Fulks people had me thinking "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" was the best song ever.
godsshoeshine
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by mankie:
Each to their own opinion…BUT…of all the great, great bands that tiny little island has produced, anyone who says Radiohead is one of the greatest is absolutely fucking, without question, totally, completely off their heads. You may as well add another flavor of the week up there too…Duran Duran. :roll:
I would put Oasis waaaaaay above Radiohead on any list…and I wouldn't put them in the top 50.
i'd put them more as this generations pink floyd. overly pretentious, yet ambitious, conceptioually interesting and appealing to a rabid fan base. you either hate them or think they are the best currently popular band.
markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:41 PM UTC
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by mankie:
[qb] i'd put them (Radiohead) more as this generations pink floyd. overly pretentious, yet ambitious, conceptioually interesting and appealing to a rabid fan base.
that comparisson keeps getting made on this board….. I like it in some respects….. But Radiohead dont have a Dark side of the Moon. I dont think they ever will. They are not that good.
markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 09:54 PM UTC
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" critically acclaimed seminal masterpiece"
magnus opus?
So you have barred me from one way OK computer is inferior…..
How about DSOTM changed the way people viewed albums. It is the first album to work really well as a whole. Plus there were innovative recording techniques (wow it has parallels with Sgt Pepper).
What has Ok computer got to offer in comparison? It was mildly succesful and even know it is becoming forgotten.
DSOTM on the other hand still has tacks featured in films and adverts, despite the fact its not far off 30.
markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 10:17 PM UTC
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Originally posted by PR_GMR:
To say that 'OKC' was 'mildly succesful' tells me, markie, that you weren't paying attention when the record came out. I recall the music media and fans tripping over themselves to pay tribute to the record. It was widely considered one of the best records of that year, and, no, it has not been forgotten to this day, on the contrary, Radiohead might never live 'OKC' down, since they've been reminded ever since that their latest offerings don't compare to that record. :cool:
mildly succesful commercially……
I dont seen to here it anymore, it is no longer part of the zeitgeist. I still hear DSOTM get played in random places.
ggw
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 10:18 PM UTC
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Originally posted by PR_GMR:
Music critic after critic have argued how the record captures the feeling of malaise of living in the 90s, the apathy which technology and globalization caused in our generation.
I never realized that I lived in a malaise in the '90s and that technology and globalization had made me apathetic.
Maybe I need to listen to OK Computer more.
markie
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 10:23 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
]I never realized that I lived in a malaise in the '90s and that technology and globalization had made me apathetic.
Maybe I need to listen to OK Computer more.
You have gone to Capua.
godsshoeshine
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Re: Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines
November 19, 2003 at 10:25 PM UTC
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by PR_GMR:
To say that 'OKC' was 'mildly succesful' tells me, markie, that you weren't paying attention when the record came out. I recall the music media and fans tripping over themselves to pay tribute to the record. It was widely considered one of the best records of that year, and, no, it has not been forgotten to this day, on the contrary, Radiohead might never live 'OKC' down, since they've been reminded ever since that their latest offerings don't compare to that record. :cool:
mildly succesful commercially……
I dont seen to here it anymore, it is no longer part of the zeitgeist. I still hear DSOTM get played in random places.
its really hard to compare the two albums with regard to shelf life. okc made this list. i hear dsotm get played after freebird on classic rock stations. just because floyd has sold their souls more successfully doesn't mean they that okc isn't an important album