Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 07:44 PM UTC
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Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I remember back in the mid-80s what attracted me to the alternative rock scene was that it was a reaction to how the mainstream worshipped classic rock from the 70's.
I remember back in 89 (I was 16), when I bought the album I still incorrectly think is called "andy warhol". I recall not really knowing anything about the VU. But hey Andy Warhol was cool, and the record has a great cover and hell it was a Great British Pound from a car boot sale.
I remember all these details because the record blew me away. It has great pacing , the momentum of heroin alone is astounding.
Just because you find something staid or boring, doesnt mean it isnt dramatically better than the vast majority of current releases. I suspect people will continue to buy andy warhol in the years to come and enjoy it as mch as I did.
markie
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:05 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
That is interesting. Do you pass on all forms of art/ music/ literature/ religion/ entertainment, because you cannot relate?
I suppose you have been nailed to the cross a few times, right?
I thought the beauty of those things were that they were escapism/ they gave you an insite into someone else' life? No?
ggw
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:09 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
Yet somehow you can relate to Depression-era ballads about coal mining, train wrecks, and moonshining?
At least Lou sings about trannies. That's right up your alley.
Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:13 PM UTC
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No, I don't pass on all forms or whatever. If I feel it can offer me incite into how to live a more fulfilling and happy life or to understand myself or my roots better, I'll happily listen.
As it is, I don't think insight into the life of a tranny loving junkie from NYC would really benefit in making my life any better.
Originally posted by mark e smith:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
That is interesting. Do you pass on all forms of art/ music/ literature/ religion/ entertainment, because you cannot relate?
I suppose you have been nailed to the cross a few times, right?
I thought the beauty of those things were that they were escapism/ they gave you an insite into someone else' life? No?
Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:17 PM UTC
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My late grandfather ran away from his Georgia home at the age of 14 and lived on freight trains as a hobo for several years.
As it is, I had one regettable blind date with someone who didn't in advance divulge information about their sexual identity. Upon out the truth, I promptly ended said date, and really dan't have any desire to be in the physical or intellectual company of any trannies or tranny lovers in te future.
So yes, I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
Yet somehow you can relate to Depression-era ballads about coal mining, train wrecks, and moonshining?
At least Lou sings about trannies. That's right up your alley.
ggw
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:22 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
Oh, so it is a choice?
So your earlier statements were bogus.
Thanks for clarifying, dumbass.
Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:24 PM UTC
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I'm not sure what you're referring to, but calling people names only makes you look like a small person.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
Oh, so it is a choice?
So your earlier statements were bogus.
Thanks for clarifying, dumbass.
ggw
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:29 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but calling people names only makes you look like a small person.
I'm referring to your earlier statement that 22 year olds couldn't like VU because they weren't around when the music was made.
Yet you can like Depression-era music even though you weren't around then.
I'm referring to your idea that people can't like music that doesn't directly relate to their lives.
Yet you can
choose to like music that doesn't directly relate to your life.
The fact that you hold these inconsistencies and further, that you couldn't figure out that is what I was referring to makes "dumbass" an accurate observation.
markie
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 08:30 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
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How can you relate to depression era lyrics. You are not old enough to have lived through the depression, are you? So as GGW has pointed out your comments were untruthful.
Still there are plenty of songs and books about statistics. You should be good to your word and stick to them.
Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:08 PM UTC
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If a 22 year old want to listen to music made about heroin 30 years ago, fine. Doesn't really seem like interesting subject matter to me, nor does it touch upon anything relevant in my life, so I'll pass.
Given that Depression era events did touch on people who were directly related to me and perhaps might give me some insight into my family history, I think they are of some relevance to my present life.
The fact that you feel the need to refer to someone as a "dumbass" points out that you'll never win the Mr. Sensitivity award you were vying for on your Polanski thread. Self-righteous, yes, sensitive, no.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but calling people names only makes you look like a small person.
I'm referring to your earlier statement that 22 year olds couldn't like VU because they weren't around when the music was made.
Yet you can like Depression-era music even though you weren't around then.
I'm referring to your idea that people can't like music that doesn't directly relate to their lives.
Yet you can choose to like music that doesn't directly relate to your life.
The fact that you hold these inconsistencies and further, that you couldn't figure out that is what I was referring to makes "dumbass" an accurate observation.
markie
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:14 PM UTC
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If a 35 year old wants to read a book made about some guy nailed to a cross 2000 years ago, fine. Doesn't really seem like interesting subject matter to me, nor does it touch upon anything relevant in my life, so I'll pass.
Given that bisexual gender bending events did touch on you and perhaps might give you some insight into your family history, I think they are of some relevance to your present life.
The fact someone feels the need to refer to you as a "dumbass" points out that you'll never win the Mr Argument award you were vying for on this thread. Self-righteous, yes, good at arguing, no.
ggw
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:23 PM UTC
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Markie, that brought a tear to my eye. I couldn't have done a finer job myself.
Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:23 PM UTC
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I'll pass on reading about Jesus too, thanks.
Bisexual yes. Gender bending, no. Yes I do have an interest in bisexuality, both male and female, but no I don't have any interest in transsexualism.
I didn't know I was vying for a Mr Argument award. I simply stated my opinions, and certain people chose to object to them. My intention was th state my opinion, not start an argument.
Originally posted by mark e smith:
If a 35 year old wants to read a book made about some guy nailed to a cross 2000 years ago, fine. Doesn't really seem like interesting subject matter to me, nor does it touch upon anything relevant in my life, so I'll pass.
Given that bisexual gender bending events did touch on you and perhaps might give you some insight into your family history, I think they are of some relevance to your present life.
The fact someone feels the need to refer to you as a "dumbass" points out that you'll never win the Mr Argument award you were vying for on this thread. Self-righteous, yes, good at arguing, no.
markie
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:29 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Markie, that brought a tear to my eye. I couldn't have done a finer job myself.
Thankyou GGW. I have been feeling a little ineffectual today. I am glad you think I am back on form.
markie
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:31 PM UTC
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kosmo
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:32 PM UTC
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will you please stay on topic!!!!
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kosmo
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by mark e smith:
Kosmo, do you need one of these? ;)
markie
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:38 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'll pass on reading about Jesus too, thanks.
You always go on about the bible, and I thought you were a Christian. I suppose that as you don't want to read about our good lord Jesus, you think that the billion Christians on the planet should not either?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Bisexual yes. Gender bending, no. Yes I do have an interest in bisexuality, both male and female, but no I don't have any interest in transsexualism.
sure, we know who wears the trousers, you are not even allowed to enjoy Joy division anymore!
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I didn't know I was vying for a Mr Argument award. I simply stated my opinions, and certain people chose to object to them. My intention was th state my opinion, not start an argument.
Its just that you make profound statements that contradict yourself and transcend rational thought.
Rhett Miller
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Re: cheeseball Britpop
November 20, 2003 at 09:47 PM UTC
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As any Christian will tell you, rational thought is overrated. (joke)
I don't take this chatboard serious enough to use it as a venue to prove how much smarter I am than anybody else. Frankly, I could care less how I stack up in the latest intelligence rankings. I'd rather be slightly above average in intelligence than brilliant anyway.
If I say things that contradict each other, it's because I'm human. Normal human beings often have thoughts and emotions that contradict each other. I'm not interested in having the intellectual consistency of a robot.
And I don't recall ever going on about the bible, but if you'd like to hear my thoughts on it, Id be glad to share. Though I have no interest in having an argument about it.
As the Judeo-Christian ethic is part of the backbone of western culture, I'd think it would be hard for anyone not to be impacted by the bible in some way or another, be it directly or indirectly.
And no, I'm not a Christian.
