Photos from when Punk Mattered

So basically you're saying punk matters now because Green Day sells 10 milion albums?

I'll give you that punk mattered to the thousands of Americans that were listened to it.

However, other than those thousands, it didn't really matter to anybody. Punk circa 1980 matters to many more people today than it did then. So it would be incorrect to say "punk back when it did matter" because to only small numbers of people did it matter.

And even today, I'd wager that punk matters to nobody I know outside of this chatboard. Then again, my family and friend set lacks aging hipsters and 15 year olds. Sorry.

I don't see why any adjective, technically at least, cannot be used to describe a person. Certainly using your definition: "conspicuously bad or offensive" The sentence works equally well.

Rhett, would you consider yourself a conspicuously bad or offensive person?

Rhett, would you consider yourself an egregious person?

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
So basically you're saying punk matters now because Green Day sells 10 milion albums?

I'll give you that punk mattered to the thousands of Americans that were listened to it.

However, other than those thousands, it didn't really matter to anybody. Punk circa 1980 matters to many more people today than it did then. So it would be incorrect to say "punk back when it did matter" because to only small numbers of people did it matter.

And even today, I'd wager that punk matters to nobody I know outside of this chatboard. Then again, my family and friend set lacks aging hipsters and 15 year olds. Sorry.

Please refer back to the post where I called you a bile spewing shitbag.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but pussy boys who call themselves "Chaz" can never hurt me.

Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
So basically you're saying punk matters now because Green Day sells 10 milion albums?

I'll give you that punk mattered to the thousands of Americans that were listened to it.

However, other than those thousands, it didn't really matter to anybody. Punk circa 1980 matters to many more people today than it did then. So it would be incorrect to say "punk back when it did matter" because to only small numbers of people did it matter.

And even today, I'd wager that punk matters to nobody I know outside of this chatboard. Then again, my family and friend set lacks aging hipsters and 15 year olds. Sorry.

Please refer back to the post where I called you a bile spewing shitbag.

Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
I don't see why any adjective, technically at least, cannot be used to describe a person.

It's what separates the wheat from the chaff, grammatically speaking… ;)

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
And even today, I'd wager that punk matters to nobody I know outside of this chatboard. Then again, my family and friend set lacks aging hipsters and 15 year olds. Sorry.

Like you really have friends….

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
So basically you're saying punk matters now because Green Day sells 10 milion albums?

I'll give you that punk mattered to the thousands of Americans that were listened to it.

Nice discrepency there. And nice use of the English language.

Punk was a social and cultural phenomenon in the UK at least. It broke down a series of taboos and got headlines on a daily basis.

What more could you have hoped for from a bunch of kids making music in their garage?

Its repercussions are still readily noticeable in the music, fashion and graphic design world the rest of us fucking live in.

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but pussy boys who call themselves "Chaz" can never hurt me.

Well maybe I should name myself after my favorite Alt-Country star you moron. Wait, Alt Country doesn't really matter.

Now please refer back to the post where I called you a bile spewing shitbag.

This thread is great. Funniest thing I've read in ages.

I'm enjoying it too. :D

Originally posted by MTB-Markie:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
It's power-pop. And, really, what is early punk but loud and snotty power-pop?

But the whole flashy guitar solo-ness of it all is rather anti-punk, dontcha think?

well power-pop in general sticks pretty close to the 3 minute formula without much guitar solos… if anything punk stripped some of the wankage from glam rock and was also taking cues from the pub rock scene. so is Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson considered punk, new wave or pop? are the Buzzcocks power-pop?

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:

Originally posted by MTB-Markie:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
It's power-pop. And, really, what is early punk but loud and snotty power-pop?

But the whole flashy guitar solo-ness of it all is rather anti-punk, dontcha think?

well power-pop in general sticks pretty close to the 3 minute formula without much guitar solos… if anything punk stripped some of the wankage from glam rock and was also taking cues from the pub rock scene. so is Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson considered punk, new wave or pop? are the Buzzcocks power-pop?

In my mind, I always thought of Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson as being New Wave with a whole lot of Pop and the Buzzcocks as being early Punk with just a tinge of Pop.

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
So basically you're saying punk matters now because Green Day sells 10 milion albums?

I'll give you that punk mattered to the thousands of Americans that were listened to it.

However, other than those thousands, it didn't really matter to anybody. Punk circa 1980 matters to many more people today than it did then. So it would be incorrect to say "punk back when it did matter" because to only small numbers of people did it matter.

And even today, I'd wager that punk matters to nobody I know outside of this chatboard. Then again, my family and friend set lacks aging hipsters and 15 year olds. Sorry.

So it doesn't matter to people you know, ergo, it doesn't matter. Nice thinking pattern there, you're a regular logician.

Maybe you don't have a lot of diverse friendships. One of my best friends LOVES bluegrass, I can't stand it. Another friend is into opera, again I couldn't care less. But I love the differences because it exposes me to different things.

If you can use your circle of friends and family as the barometer of what matters, and exclude punk from that, well, then you live a sheltered life.

Originally posted by MTB-Markie:
Excellent.

The first colour pic though is not Jonny Rotten, it has to be Vansmack…..

Haha! Years ago, it easily could have been.

And I'm sorry I missed this thread. Haven't had one in a while.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot.

Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but pussy boys who call themselves "Chaz" can never hurt me.

Well maybe I should name myself after my favorite Alt-Country star you moron. Wait, Alt Country doesn't really matter.

Now please refer back to the post where I called you a bile spewing shitbag.

It's reprecussions are perhaps 1/100th the significance that hip hop culture has had.

Originally posted by MTB-Markie:


Its repercussions are still readily noticeable in the music, fashion and graphic design world the rest of us fucking live in.

I generally don't measure the diversity of my friendships based on what type of music they prefer.

And if music taste asctually did matter when it comes to friendships…Perhaps 1% of the general population is into punk rock. I live a sheltered life because none of my friends are punk rock lovers?

I guess my whole point is that if you consider the whole population of the world as music lovers (and really, who doesn't like music to some extent?), then punk rock is just a small blip on the radar screen. Huge blip for music writers living in big American and British cities, but to the general population of the world…no, I just don't think so.

And as for punks influence on the world at large…just a minor blip.

Sorry I don't tow the party line on this one.

Originally posted by Arlette:

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
So basically you're saying punk matters now because Green Day sells 10 milion albums?

I'll give you that punk mattered to the thousands of Americans that were listened to it.

However, other than those thousands, it didn't really matter to anybody. Punk circa 1980 matters to many more people today than it did then. So it would be incorrect to say "punk back when it did matter" because to only small numbers of people did it matter.

And even today, I'd wager that punk matters to nobody I know outside of this chatboard. Then again, my family and friend set lacks aging hipsters and 15 year olds. Sorry.

So it doesn't matter to people you know, ergo, it doesn't matter. Nice thinking pattern there, you're a regular logician.

Maybe you don't have a lot of diverse friendships. One of my best friends LOVES bluegrass, I can't stand it. Another friend is into opera, again I couldn't care less. But I love the differences because it exposes me to different things.

If you can use your circle of friends and family as the barometer of what matters, and exclude punk from that, well, then you live a sheltered life.

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
It's reprecussions are perhaps 1/100th the significance that hip hop culture has had.

I think that is a bold statement. For one punk started a good 15 years before hip-hop.

I dont see hip-hop having much of a positive legacy, a bit like, say, Disco from before punk.

My wife says you and I are pathetic for being on the board at this time of night. She also says that she doesn't think that punk has much of an influence on current graphic design.

Time to stop being pathetic and sign off. bye bye.

Originally posted by MTB-Markie:

Originally posted by Etan de Balzac, Footie Ball Player:
It's reprecussions are perhaps 1/100th the significance that hip hop culture has had.

I think that is a bold statement. For one punk started a good 15 years before hip-hop.

I dont see hip-hop having much of a positive legacy, a bit like, say, Disco from before punk.

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