Originally posted by Ikarus:this site has the names of all four victims. dime, erin halk (an employee of the club), nathan bray (an audience member), and jeff thompson. thompson is listed as "from texas," which would probably make him an employee of the band.
mindcage:
do you have a link indicating that mayhem was also killed? thanks much.
What is the world coming to?
apparently there is video…..
Five dead, including noted guitarist 'Dimebag' Abbott
By Jay Cohen
ASSOCIATED PRESS8:24 a.m. December 9, 2004
COLUMBUS, Ohio â?? A gunman charged onstage at a packed nightclub and opened fire on the band and crowd, killing top heavy metal guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott and three other people before a police officer shot him to death, authorities and witnesses said.
Police spokeswoman Sherry Mercurio identified three of the victims of Wednesday's shooting as Abbott, who played for the Texas-based band Damageplan, and two other men, Nathan Bray, 23; and Erin Halk, 29.
She identified the gunman as Nathan Gale, 25, of Marysville, 25 miles northwest of Columbus. Police said they had no information on a motive or any connection to the band.
The gunman had a hostage in a headlock and seemed to be preparing to kill him when the officer, James D. Niggemeyer, managed to shoot without injuring the hostage, police said.
Damageplan had just begun its first song at Alrosa Villa club when the man shot Abbott five or six times at point-blank range, a witness said.
Abbott, 38, one of metal's top guitarists, and his brother, Damageplan drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott, were members of Pantera, the Grammy-nominated thrash-rock pioneer that enjoyed wide popularity in the 1990s.
The witness, 22-year-old Chris Couch, said he was standing about 30 feet from the stage when he saw a man wearing a hooded sweat shirt walk up to the stage, followed by a bouncer and another club employee.
The man in the sweat shirt climbed onto the stage, started yelling and opened fire on the guitarist, then shot a bouncer who pulled him off the musician, Couch said.
Police spokesman Sgt. Brent Mull said that after shooting at band members, the gunman fired into the crowd. Niggemeyer, patrolling nearby, arrived within two minutes, he said.
"If the officer wasn't as close as he was, I think this would have been a lot worse," Mull said. "It was a chaotic scene, just a horrific scene."
Niggemeyer, 31, entered the club through a back door and was directed to the stage, where he saw one person lying dead and the suspect holding onto another "pretty much in a headlock," Mull said.
"The officer was able to strategically gun this guy down before he was able to kill this hostage," Mull said. He said the hostage, "probably a fan, maybe someone who worked with the band," was able to maneuver out of the way somewhat before the officer fired.
Mull said he believed there was amateur video that officers could view for clues.
The name of the fifth person killed was not immediately released. Mercurio said family members were still being notified.
Thursday morning, a dozen yellow roses, still in plastic wrap, lay near the entry to the low-slung beige building that since 1974 has hosted mostly heavy metal acts. The 641-person-capacity club, just off a freeway exit on the city's north side, sits amid motels, small businesses and office complexes.
After the shooting began, Couch and a friend headed for the exit along with a tide of hundreds of fans.
"It was definitely a grudge. It was against something," Couch said.
Amanda Stankus, 19, who attended the show with Couch, said she initially thought the shooting was part of the show. "I just saw the guitarist fall down, and we decided to get out of there," she said.
The Abbott brothers produced Damageplan's debut album, "New Found Power," which was released in February. Other band members are vocalist Patrick Lachman and bassist Bob Zilla.
"Damageplan carries on the tradition Pantera started, the … hell-raising tradition we were all about," Vinnie Paul Abbott told The Dallas Morning News in October. "We do play some Pantera songs. Me and Dime wrote them, and we feel like we have the right to play them. But the focus is on Damageplan.
"It took awhile for some of the Pantera fans to accept it; we knew that was gonna be the case," he said. "Change is something that people have a hard time accepting. But me and Dime intended on doing this our whole lives."
A message left with Atlantic Records Group, which oversees Damageplan's label Elektra, was not immediately returned.
Damageplan's Web site said Darrel and Vinnie Abbott grew up in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, where their father, country songwriter Jerry Abbott, owned a recording studio.
Telephone numbers for Darrell and Jerry Abbott are unlisted and could not be reached early Thursday by The Associated Press.
Pantera, known for its fast, aggressive sound, recorded several albums in the 1990s, attracting a massive cult following. The third release, "Far Beyond Driven," debuted at No. 1 in 1994, surprising chart-watchers and critics alike. Other hit albums were "The Great Southern Trendkill" and "Reinventing The Steel." A song by the band became the Dallas Stars hockey team's signature tune in 1999.
Pantera was nominated for Grammies for best metal performance in 1995 for "I'm Broken" and in 2001 for "Revolution Is My Name."
The video "The Best of Pantera: Far Beyond the Great Southern Cowboys' Vulgar Hits" hit the top 10 for music-video sales earlier this year; another video, "3-Watch It Go," hit the top 10 in 1998.
The shootings came exactly 24 years after John Lennon was shot to death outside his New York apartment building by a deranged fan.
Dozens of messages were posted to the Dallas band's Web site after the shootings.
"This is the worst day in metal history," one posting read.
"The metal world feels your pain," another wrote.
 Associated Press writer Jay Jorden in Dallas contributed to this report.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20041209-0824-nightclubshooting.html
Five dead, including noted guitarist 'Dimebag' Abbott
By Jay Cohen
ASSOCIATED PRESS8:24 a.m. December 9, 2004
COLUMBUS, Ohio â?? A gunman charged onstage at a packed nightclub and opened fire on the band and crowd, killing top heavy metal guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott and three other people before a police officer shot him to death, authorities and witnesses said.
Police spokeswoman Sherry Mercurio identified three of the victims of Wednesday's shooting as Abbott, who played for the Texas-based band Damageplan, and two other men, Nathan Bray, 23; and Erin Halk, 29.
She identified the gunman as Nathan Gale, 25, of Marysville, 25 miles northwest of Columbus. Police said they had no information on a motive or any connection to the band.
The gunman had a hostage in a headlock and seemed to be preparing to kill him when the officer, James D. Niggemeyer, managed to shoot without injuring the hostage, police said.
Damageplan had just begun its first song at Alrosa Villa club when the man shot Abbott five or six times at point-blank range, a witness said.
Abbott, 38, one of metal's top guitarists, and his brother, Damageplan drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott, were members of Pantera, the Grammy-nominated thrash-rock pioneer that enjoyed wide popularity in the 1990s.
The witness, 22-year-old Chris Couch, said he was standing about 30 feet from the stage when he saw a man wearing a hooded sweat shirt walk up to the stage, followed by a bouncer and another club employee.
The man in the sweat shirt climbed onto the stage, started yelling and opened fire on the guitarist, then shot a bouncer who pulled him off the musician, Couch said.
Police spokesman Sgt. Brent Mull said that after shooting at band members, the gunman fired into the crowd. Niggemeyer, patrolling nearby, arrived within two minutes, he said.
"If the officer wasn't as close as he was, I think this would have been a lot worse," Mull said. "It was a chaotic scene, just a horrific scene."
Niggemeyer, 31, entered the club through a back door and was directed to the stage, where he saw one person lying dead and the suspect holding onto another "pretty much in a headlock," Mull said.
"The officer was able to strategically gun this guy down before he was able to kill this hostage," Mull said. He said the hostage, "probably a fan, maybe someone who worked with the band," was able to maneuver out of the way somewhat before the officer fired.
Mull said he believed there was amateur video that officers could view for clues.
The name of the fifth person killed was not immediately released. Mercurio said family members were still being notified.
Thursday morning, a dozen yellow roses, still in plastic wrap, lay near the entry to the low-slung beige building that since 1974 has hosted mostly heavy metal acts. The 641-person-capacity club, just off a freeway exit on the city's north side, sits amid motels, small businesses and office complexes.
After the shooting began, Couch and a friend headed for the exit along with a tide of hundreds of fans.
"It was definitely a grudge. It was against something," Couch said.
Amanda Stankus, 19, who attended the show with Couch, said she initially thought the shooting was part of the show. "I just saw the guitarist fall down, and we decided to get out of there," she said.
The Abbott brothers produced Damageplan's debut album, "New Found Power," which was released in February. Other band members are vocalist Patrick Lachman and bassist Bob Zilla.
"Damageplan carries on the tradition Pantera started, the … hell-raising tradition we were all about," Vinnie Paul Abbott told The Dallas Morning News in October. "We do play some Pantera songs. Me and Dime wrote them, and we feel like we have the right to play them. But the focus is on Damageplan.
"It took awhile for some of the Pantera fans to accept it; we knew that was gonna be the case," he said. "Change is something that people have a hard time accepting. But me and Dime intended on doing this our whole lives."
A message left with Atlantic Records Group, which oversees Damageplan's label Elektra, was not immediately returned.
Damageplan's Web site said Darrel and Vinnie Abbott grew up in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, where their father, country songwriter Jerry Abbott, owned a recording studio.
Telephone numbers for Darrell and Jerry Abbott are unlisted and could not be reached early Thursday by The Associated Press.
Pantera, known for its fast, aggressive sound, recorded several albums in the 1990s, attracting a massive cult following. The third release, "Far Beyond Driven," debuted at No. 1 in 1994, surprising chart-watchers and critics alike. Other hit albums were "The Great Southern Trendkill" and "Reinventing The Steel." A song by the band became the Dallas Stars hockey team's signature tune in 1999.
Pantera was nominated for Grammies for best metal performance in 1995 for "I'm Broken" and in 2001 for "Revolution Is My Name."
The video "The Best of Pantera: Far Beyond the Great Southern Cowboys' Vulgar Hits" hit the top 10 for music-video sales earlier this year; another video, "3-Watch It Go," hit the top 10 in 1998.
The shootings came exactly 24 years after John Lennon was shot to death outside his New York apartment building by a deranged fan.
Dozens of messages were posted to the Dallas band's Web site after the shootings.
"This is the worst day in metal history," one posting read.
"The metal world feels your pain," another wrote.
 Associated Press writer Jay Jorden in Dallas contributed to this report.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20041209-0824-nightclubshooting.html
if i'm not mistaken, mayhem was dp's tour manager. hope he had the chance to swap a groupie to humble pie for fifty bucks and a case of heineken…
R.I.P.
thats fucked up. There are crazy people out there. this may just screw up concerts for a while. i wasn't a fan but you have to give RESPECT, for what he DBD has done in the past.
thats fucked up. There are crazy people out there. this may just screw up concerts for a while. i wasn't a fan but you have to give RESPECT, for what he DBD has done in the past.
more details and eyewitness accounts…
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494653/20041209/damageplan.jhtml?headlines=true
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1494653/20041209/damageplan.jhtml?headlines=true
Originally posted by Ikarus:No I don't. I was hearing it first hand from my friend in Chicago that's working the radio show they were suppose to play at 4:30am today or tomorrow with Saliva and a few others. Are you sure Mayhem is their tour manager and not head of security? He was saying it was the head of the bands security that was also killed. That would be the "bouncer" mentioned in all the articles.
mindcage:
do you have a link indicating that mayhem was also killed? thanks much.
MindCage
Mindless Faith
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the guy was an ex-marine, who liked to play pantera in his headphones will on assignment killing people for this country. he was discharged early from camp leguene for what the marines are saying, "is classified."
enough said.
enough said.
<img src="http://www.internet-web-online.com/nathan.jpg" alt=" - " />
Nathan Gale
"BBC News is reporting that the U.K. edition of Metal Hammer magazine printed an interview with singer Phil Anselmo two weeks before former PANTERA guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott was shot and killed, saying he should be "severely
beaten."
source
Nathan Gale
"BBC News is reporting that the U.K. edition of Metal Hammer magazine printed an interview with singer Phil Anselmo two weeks before former PANTERA guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott was shot and killed, saying he should be "severely
beaten."
source
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Originally posted by marquee smith:thats one scary looking dude.
<img src="http://www.internet-web-online.com/nathan.jpg" alt=" - " />
Nathan Gale
"BBC News is reporting that the U.K. edition of Metal Hammer magazine printed an interview with singer Phil Anselmo two weeks before former PANTERA guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott was shot and killed, saying he should be "severely
beaten."
source
The surviving members of Damageplan also issued a statement revealing that their former head of security, Jeffrey "Mayhem" Thompson, was also killed in the tragedy, and that Chris Paluska, who worked with Damageplan's management and was their acting tour manager, was also shot and is in critical, but stable condition. The band's drum tech, John "Kat" Brooks, was hit with a bullet but will be released from the hospital today.
www.damageplan.net
www.damageplan.net
Now Phil can start to say he really wanted to do Pantera in a few years or something and get away with it..
Originally posted by Dandy01:Kat had dove on top of Vinnie which is why he got shot. Had he not, Vinnie would have been hit. That's how the rumors that Vinnie was shot since word got out that the "drummer" had been hit by a bullet.
The surviving members of Damageplan also issued a statement revealing that their former head of security, Jeffrey "Mayhem" Thompson, was also killed in the tragedy, and that Chris Paluska, who worked with Damageplan's management and was their acting tour manager, was also shot and is in critical, but stable condition. The band's drum tech, John "Kat" Brooks, was hit with a bullet but will be released from the hospital today.
www.damageplan.net
MindCage
Mindless Faith
Deep6 Productions
Nathan Hale:
Mr. Hale only qualified as a marksman with the M-16, which is a pretty shameful thing, apparently, for a Marine. Bare minimum-type shit.
He ran a bare-minimum third class physical fitness test when discharged.
A Mechanic in the Marines, he scored only a 48 on his entrance exam (average intelligence). His proficiency and conduct marks were all below average. He joined in February of 2002, but was booted in November of 2003 (most enlistments are 4 years minimum)
He was a Roman Catholic.
He was born on – Tah-da! – September 11th, 1979.
Nathan Hale = 10 letters + 1 space = 11 characters bare-minimum = 12 characters. Subtract hyphen (which doubles a minus sign) and you get… 11.
Hale signed up in February 2002. That's 02/2004. Add it up and you get 2004, which is this very year in which we are living inside of.
Take the number 65. Subtract 54. What do you get? 11.
Multiply 11 by 4. You get 44. Add 8. You get 52. Add 8 more, you get 60.
The thirteenth letter of the alphabet is M. If you take the M out of Dimebag, You get DIE BAG.
Mr. Hale only qualified as a marksman with the M-16, which is a pretty shameful thing, apparently, for a Marine. Bare minimum-type shit.
He ran a bare-minimum third class physical fitness test when discharged.
A Mechanic in the Marines, he scored only a 48 on his entrance exam (average intelligence). His proficiency and conduct marks were all below average. He joined in February of 2002, but was booted in November of 2003 (most enlistments are 4 years minimum)
He was a Roman Catholic.
He was born on – Tah-da! – September 11th, 1979.
Nathan Hale = 10 letters + 1 space = 11 characters bare-minimum = 12 characters. Subtract hyphen (which doubles a minus sign) and you get… 11.
Hale signed up in February 2002. That's 02/2004. Add it up and you get 2004, which is this very year in which we are living inside of.
Take the number 65. Subtract 54. What do you get? 11.
Multiply 11 by 4. You get 44. Add 8. You get 52. Add 8 more, you get 60.
The thirteenth letter of the alphabet is M. If you take the M out of Dimebag, You get DIE BAG.
M is the 13th letter in the alphabet, and that stands for marijuana. Duuuude!
I hope you don't make life decisions based on such nonsense.
"I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my very favorite, bestest band ever,Pantera."
- Nathan Gale
- Nathan Gale
Originally posted by marquee smith:Looks like that psycho from "Full Metal Jacket", Private Pyle.
<img src="http://www.internet-web-online.com/nathan.jpg" alt=" - " />
Nathan Gale
"BBC News is reporting that the U.K. edition of Metal Hammer magazine printed an interview with singer Phil Anselmo two weeks before former PANTERA guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott was shot and killed, saying he should be "severely
beaten."
source
Originally posted by Frieda Slaves:Why subtract for the minus sign when you do nothing about a space. Consistancy!
Nathan Hale:
Nathan Hale = 10 letters + 1 space = 11 characters bare-minimum = 12 characters. Subtract hyphen (which doubles a minus sign) and you get… 11.
And?
Hale signed up in February 2002. That's 02/2004. Add it up and you get 2004, which is this very year in which we are living inside of.
Why take 65, why subtract 54. Heck, 73 and 62 would work the same here. What is supposed to be special about 65 and 54?
Take the number 65. Subtract 54. What do you get? 11.
Again, what rational for doing these math combinations?
Multiply 11 by 4. You get 44. Add 8. You get 52. Add 8 more, you get 60.
Again, and?
The thirteenth letter of the alphabet is M. If you take the M out of Dimebag, You get DIE BAG.
I'm afraid I can't reply now, as I'm very busy translating Orc-ish.