Kerry Finished??

lets see if I can beat ggw to this one

FROM CONRESSIONAL QUARTERLY'S CRAIG CRAWFORD: 'Drudge item on Kerry intern issue is something Chris Lehane (clark press secy) has shopped around for a long time – it was one reason the Gore vetters in 2000 shied away from Kerry as a running mate choice – their conclusion that it wasn't bad enough to disqualify him, except for the fact that they couldn't risk it as they were trying so hard to distance themselves from Clinton's personal failings (note: Lehane worked for Gore at the time – and briefly advised Kerry during this campaign). The Kerry camp has long expected to deal with this, and have assured party leaders they can handle it'…

Kerry is down 23 points and Edwards is up 19 points.

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Well, my two cents is that I KNOW lots of men cheat, and we "puritanical americans" make a bigger deal out of it than the hip, free-flowing Europeans, HOWEVER, are these adulterers, whether democrats or republicans, the best we can get? Wouldn't we want someone of more upstanding character? I do think infedility indicates weakness of character. It's not unforgiveable of a partner, but don't we deserve better in our president? Not every man is cut out to be president.

Originally posted by manimtired:
Didnt Clinton dodge the draft too??

Exactly…..I coulda sworn Clinton was a big time draft dodger. Thats we in the military at the time hated his @ss…..but when i got out i learned to like him as president.

Interesting…Lehane was fired from Kerry's campaign back in December.

Originally posted by brennser:
(note: Lehane worked for Gore at the time – and briefly advised Kerry during this campaign). The Kerry camp has long expected to deal with this, and have assured party leaders they can handle it'…

Originally posted by manimtired:
I cant be sure but I do believe history will prove taking out Saddam's regime and installing a democracy in the mid-east, if it works, will have been a good decision.

He could've been controlled while in power, now that country is a big fucking time bomb waiting to go off. Those fruit-loops in the mid-east will never get along with each other, no matter who's in power, even a Micky Mouse Democracy won't change that.

Do you think the Iraqies are happy Saddam's out of there? Surely not…

Originally posted by manimtired:
Do you think the Iraqies are happy Saddam's out of there? Surely not…

Ask the families of the 100+ that just got blown to bits over the last couple of days. They could've got rid of him themselves you know.

We could've got rid of the mad man without going to war.

Originally posted by mankie:
Those fruit-loops in the mid-east will never get along with each other, no matter who's in power, even a Micky Mouse Democracy won't change that.

I agree…the general sense I get of the thinking over there that god and religious turf is more important than commerce and higher standards of living here on earth will always fuck them up

Ask the family members of the tens of thousands that Saddam murdered as well…

Originally posted by manimtired:
Ask the family members of the tens of thousands that Saddam murdered as well…

Read my edited post.

They could've overthrown him if they wanted to!

How do you think we would have gotten rid of him without going to war? You dont think the U.S. and other governments have tried to have him assassinated in the past? Once he died his sons would have taken over and nothing would have changed.

Originally posted by Celeste:
Well, my two cents is that I KNOW lots of men cheat, and we "puritanical americans" make a bigger deal out of it than the hip, free-flowing Europeans, HOWEVER, are these adulterers, whether democrats or republicans, the best we can get? Wouldn't we want someone of more upstanding character? I do think infedility indicates weakness of character. It's not unforgiveable of a partner, but don't we deserve better in our president? Not every man is cut out to be president.

yes, we deserve better. can a man get elected president without SOMETHING scummy in his past? doubt it.

I dont think they could have overthrown him…not without our help. Look what happened to the Shiites once we left after Gulf War 1.

Originally posted by manimtired:
How do you think we would have gotten rid of him without going to war? You dont think the U.S. and other governments have tried to have him assassinated in the past? Once he died his sons would have taken over and nothing would have changed.


I dont think the could have overthrown him…not without our help. Look what happened to the Shiites once we left after Gulf War 1.

Then assassinate all bloody three!

The US bailed out on them half way through remember, which was pretty shitty. I just think it was all because of a personal vendetta for Dubya because Hussein tried to assassinate his dad…. it wasn't our war to fight. It should've been a civil war issue. US funded? Maybe, but not an invasion of a country. That should be an absolute last resort when your own country/people are under imminent threat, which we weren't. Afghanistan was a totally different issue, and was just. They fired first, and by the Taliban giving shelter to Bin Laden etc. were legit targets.

Can y'all start another thread for middle east? kerrygate is more interesting…

Im sure they would have assassinated all bloody three if it were possible. Saddam was fucking with the world for a long time..he thought he was invincible… Whats been done has been done…like I said, history will be the judge if the decision to take out Saddam was the right thing to do. Ok, im done.

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
yes, we deserve better. can a man get elected president without SOMETHING scummy in his past? doubt it.

history shows that that's unlikely. . .it's been going on since the 1796 election. . .

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:

i heard one theory that the democrats were looking to write off the whole south (excluding maybe florida) and try to win the other big states. kinda risky to say the least…

it's very risky. . .by giving bush the south (including florida, oklahoma and kentucky), bush is at 168 votes, around 100 votes short needed to win. the rest would come from the midwest.

Originally posted by Rutherford J. Balls:
Can y'all start another thread for middle east? kerrygate is more interesting…

Okay back to topic….I've met them both, John Kerry and Mrs. Heinz Kerry….even been in their house.

Aren't I the dogs bollocks? :D