Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:Actually, it's because most moderates are apathetic.
jon stewart recently said something great on the daily show recently (in an interview with washpost reporter juliet eilperin): "this country is run by extremists because moderates have shit to do"
smoking ban
Whoever owns the building should be able to decide the policies governing what happens inside so long as those acivities are within the law. And last time I checked, smoking was legal.
That said, I won't be crying when the ban goes into effect, seeing as I don't smoke cigarettes. Sometimes it bugs me a bit at shows, but not to the point of incessant bitching.
That said, I won't be crying when the ban goes into effect, seeing as I don't smoke cigarettes. Sometimes it bugs me a bit at shows, but not to the point of incessant bitching.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:Aww…
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:Actually, it's because most moderates are apathetic.
jon stewart recently said something great on the daily show recently (in an interview with washpost reporter juliet eilperin): "this country is run by extremists because moderates have shit to do"
Go Fauquier yourself.
Originally posted by V.Vishnu A.Harry Chestwig:because i said so, did i infer otherwise?
Was it great because you said so, or was it really great?
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:then you didnt read all of the posts Kosmo.
ain't it great people who prefer to go to smokefree shows are bitchy… the only bitching i see here are from people bitching about people who want to go to smoke free shows.
seems like anarchist, jeffml and Alex's posts were bitching about smoking.
who was bitching about non smokers bitching?
not me, cause i dont hang out in DC!! except i WILL be irritated when hockey season rolls around and i wont be able to smoke in the Dewars bar at Verizon. its a shame cause i think its the only reason people go all the over to that bar. its gonna be empty come January!
Originally posted by the sonick:that place is like a airport smoking lounge, the ONLY reason anyone goes there is to smoke
except i WILL be irritated when hockey season rolls around and i wont be able to smoke in the Dewars bar at Verizon. its a shame cause i think its the only reason people go all the over to that bar. its gonna be empty come January!
will smoke machines be banned?
No, I do understand. I understand that it's stupid for someone to not smoke all day, and then suddenly lose all self-control at night when they drink at a bar and feel the need to smoke with their drinks. It's pointless, and adds to the already horrible air at the Black Cat.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Alex:If you don't understand it, then you've little room to comment.
I've never ever understood the whole "I only smoke when I drink" bullshit.
What, do you think people are lying just for the hell of it? Just to fuck with you? That's bullshit.
The ban is happening. The end. As a "social, alcohol-induced" smoker I'm probably looking forward to the ban as much as many (I'm sure I'll quit, which is great) – imagine how much more bearable Black Cat will be!! But lay off the folks who will have big adjustments to make.
I have not had a cigarette that didn't follow at least 2 drinks in 6 or 7 years…Why would I make that shit up for you??
I think my only real problem with smoking in a club like 930 is when you're smoking on the floor with a person next to you with really long hair and the cigarette is getting way too close. I don't know how many times my daughter has told me that story. If they could just say no smoking on a sold out floor, just for cautionary reasons, then that would be good enough. I mean, it is a club. I am more afraid of the burning hair aspect than the secondary smoke thing. I don't know which is worse, cigarette smoke or B.O.
Originally posted by Alex:why is smoking or not smoking always about self-control. i dont drink all day but when i go out, i like to enjoy a beer. but i wouldnt say i "lost all self control" when i got to the bar.
No, I do understand. I understand that it's stupid for someone to not smoke all day, and then suddenly lose all self-control at night when they drink at a bar and feel the need to smoke with their drinks. It's pointless, and adds to the already horrible air at the Black Cat.
you know, not everyone who smokes is a chain smoker who "needs his fix" and cant live without them.
Originally posted by nanjw:it will never be good enough
If they could just say no smoking on a sold out floor, just for cautionary reasons, then that would be good enough.
soon people will complain that the groups of people standing on the sidewalk outside of bars are disrupting pedestrian traffic.
no one should be bitching either way. look. people are going to smoke at shows (until the ban begins, at least). it's a pain in the ass for those that don't smoke and hate the smell/worry about secondhand inhalation risks/don't appreciate washing their hair four times before they smell normal again. but by going to a place like the Black Cat, it is to be expected. you can't go to a bar thinking that NO ONE is going to be smoking. and if it's to the point where it's something worthy of bitching that much over, then stop going.
the only time you should be complaining is if someone is overly obnoxious and blows smoke in your face trying to look trendy. otherwise, it's just to be expected, and deal with it until the ban.
the end.
fin.
the only time you should be complaining is if someone is overly obnoxious and blows smoke in your face trying to look trendy. otherwise, it's just to be expected, and deal with it until the ban.
the end.
fin.
Can we ban cell phones in public places too. The obnoxious tools that yak on their cell phones everywhere, all the time, about nothing in particular are annoying as hell.
Blah blah blah.
Smokers, you've had your rights for thousands of years. Now it's our turn, you little fuckers. Your nasty little habit belongs back in the time before they had indoor plumbing, or cures for venereal diseases. You want to smoke? Take a time travel vehicle back to a shittier time and live there, out of our cleaner, healthier, better world.
Next up, anti-obesity laws. Let's get rid high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils the way they're getting rid of cigarettes.
Smokers, you've had your rights for thousands of years. Now it's our turn, you little fuckers. Your nasty little habit belongs back in the time before they had indoor plumbing, or cures for venereal diseases. You want to smoke? Take a time travel vehicle back to a shittier time and live there, out of our cleaner, healthier, better world.
Next up, anti-obesity laws. Let's get rid high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils the way they're getting rid of cigarettes.
Originally posted by Stanger:I couldn't agree more.
Can we ban cell phones in public places too. The obnoxious tools that yak on their cell phones everywhere, all the time, about nothing in particular are annoying as hell.
You sound like you would be a barrel of laughs to be around.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Blah blah blah.
Smokers, you've had your rights for thousands of years. Now it's our turn, you little fuckers. Your nasty little habit belongs back in the time before they had indoor plumbing, or cures for venereal diseases. You want to smoke? Take a time travel vehicle back to a shittier time and live there, out of our cleaner, healthier, better world.
Next up, anti-obesity laws. Let's get rid high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils the way they're getting rid of cigarettes.
if you could stand the smell.
quote:i could agree more and will. there really needs to be a nationwide cell phone etiquette class administered in a hurry.
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Originally posted by Stanger:
Can we ban cell phones in public places too. The obnoxious tools that yak on their cell phones everywhere, all the time, about nothing in particular are annoying as hell.
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I couldn't agree more.
it can't be proven, but there are these smoking bans because people/smokers go and smoke their fucking faces off, particularly at concerts. i mean really, going out for some drinks and smoking 20-40 cigarettes??? if it were somewhat socially moderated you probably wouldn't have all of these whiners.
for the record, it doesn't bother me at all, but some people really can't take it and they might be pussies and all, but when their eyes are watering b/c a place looks and feels like a walk-in ashtray it's probably a bit much.
if you can't stand smoking, don't go to the show. simple as that. it pisses me off ot no end when the government makes these kinds of regulations. if a private club, like the 9:30 club, wants to ban smoking, thats fine, but when the government enforces a smoking ban, it is fascism in my mind.