Doctor Doom
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 21, 2008 at 11:12 PM UTC
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"Appetite for Destruction" was a flash of brilliance – and not just Axl brilliance but Izzy and Slash. Like the best inspirations, it was more than the sum of the parts. Unfortunately, Axl's been trading on that one moment of brilliance for more than 20 years now.
Even if "Chinese Democracy" were as good as "Use Your Illusions," which was good but no "Appetite," the overwhelming question would be "why?" Who really needs an over-produced trip back to the early 1990s? Unless you're the type of fan for whom a band you love can never do wrong, it's hard to imagine what this adds to anyone's life.
Mobius
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 22, 2008 at 12:45 PM UTC
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its not really a trip back to the early 1990s, or connected to any time, really. its more like the soundtrack to a musical. axl might be the next andrew lloyd webber. and this might actually work as a musical - vampire rock opera or otherwise.
chillfill489
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 22, 2008 at 03:19 PM UTC
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glowsticks are awesome but not at 930 boooooooo
walkonby
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 22, 2008 at 03:34 PM UTC
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i like glowsticks in a frozen, hypnotic, margarita, made with silver patron. no boo.
sweetcell
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 22, 2008 at 04:15 PM UTC
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dunno if you've noticed, but your protest for glowstick justice is getting no traction. currently, you're alone on this one. but keep up the good fight!
personally, i think glowsticks are annoying visual clutter. what is this, a 1993 rave?
walkonby
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 22, 2008 at 06:00 PM UTC
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next thing you know, he/she will be advocating whistle blowing at shows.
Doctor Doom
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 22, 2008 at 06:52 PM UTC
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This is intriguing… what is Glowstick's protest based on? Are they banned? Did someone get glow-chemical in their eye at a show?
skeeter
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 23, 2008 at 04:59 PM UTC
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Looks like they're giving away a ton of Dr. Pepper. Their website doesn't seem to be able to handle the traffic.
Doctor Doom
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 23, 2008 at 06:22 PM UTC
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That would be an odd twist if Guns n Roses manages to put Dr. Pepper out of business…
ixkpd-bk
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 10:18 AM UTC
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Loved the album leak then, love it just as much now. The only major difference I can tell is actual song titles this time. I'm hoping they do a completely ridiculous stop at SXSW, and play a random tiny show at Stubbs or something, then do like a 10-city arena tour. That'd be so sweet…yeah.
Shit, I'd settle for Coachella then arena tour. But I'd love to see some of this stuff in a smaller setting.
Rhett Miller
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 12:33 PM UTC
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Aren't there any alternative music lovers left out there? Certainly not on this board.
When I was a young one, you listened to Sonic Youth or Squirrel Bait or Camper or Black Flag or maybe you listened to the British stuff like the Smiths or the Housemartins or New Order or Billy Bragg.
You laughed at Guns N Roses. I mean, what the fuck. C'mon people. Guns N Roses, that's fucking boring mainstream bullshit brought to you by corporate cockrock mainstreet America. Music for tools. T-shirt coming to a mall foodcourt near you. Sponsored by Dr. Pepper, Sarah Palin's drink of choice.
Arthwys
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 04:15 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Aren't there any alternative music lovers left out there? Certainly not on this board.
When I was a young one, you listened to Sonic Youth or Squirrel Bait or Camper or Black Flag or maybe you listened to the British stuff like the Smiths or the Housemartins or New Order or Billy Bragg.
You laughed at Guns N Roses. I mean, what the fuck. C'mon people. Guns N Roses, that's fucking boring mainstream bullshit brought to you by corporate cockrock mainstreet America. Music for tools. T-shirt coming to a mall foodcourt near you. Sponsored by Dr. Pepper, Sarah Palin's drink of choice.
I have to disagree. GNR was a gritty, bluesy, more balls to the wall shot in the arm that the mainstream "hair-metal" desperately needed in the late 80's. Watered down pop-metal like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, or even worse, Danger Danger and their like were dominating the airwaves. Appetite for Destruction was certainly not corporate rock. It actually took close to a year after its release before it made any big impact. Granted, by the time of Use Your Illusion, they were an over-bloated circus, but could still churn out some damn good rock tunes that walked the line between pop-metal and blues rock.
Rhett Miller
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 06:11 PM UTC
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Remind me, what label did it come out on?
Originally posted by Arthwys:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Aren't there any alternative music lovers left out there? Certainly not on this board.
When I was a young one, you listened to Sonic Youth or Squirrel Bait or Camper or Black Flag or maybe you listened to the British stuff like the Smiths or the Housemartins or New Order or Billy Bragg.
You laughed at Guns N Roses. I mean, what the fuck. C'mon people. Guns N Roses, that's fucking boring mainstream bullshit brought to you by corporate cockrock mainstreet America. Music for tools. T-shirt coming to a mall foodcourt near you. Sponsored by Dr. Pepper, Sarah Palin's drink of choice.
I have to disagree. GNR was a gritty, bluesy, more balls to the wall shot in the arm that the mainstream "hair-metal" desperately needed in the late 80's. Watered down pop-metal like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, or even worse, Danger Danger and their like were dominating the airwaves. Appetite for Destruction was certainly not corporate rock. It actually took close to a year after its release before it made any big impact. Granted, by the time of Use Your Illusion, they were an over-bloated circus, but could still churn out some damn good rock tunes that walked the line between pop-metal and blues rock.
kosmo
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 07:08 PM UTC
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i happened to think that g'n'r record pretty muched rawked and i was listening to plently of "alternative" music at the time…
sweetcell
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 07:35 PM UTC
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no no no, the opinions of an alternative music lover have nothing to do with the actual music… they're solely based on what label the album comes out on and what the band's public image is. get with the program.
sonickteam2
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 08:04 PM UTC
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Charlie you are just old! I was just 10 when Appetite for Destruction came out and it was the coolest thing since Wayne Gretzky, and by the time the Use Your Illusion tour was over, i wasnt even old enough to drive. I believe many other people on this board are about my age.
I can agree that if that album came out when i was 20 (arent you like 40?) I would have never listened to it. ever.
so there you go. :)
GNR was my first show ever in 1988 (opening for Aerosmith) and probably the album i have the most memories tied to in life. That said, i would never even attempt to see them lve again, it would be too depressing.
Rhett Miller
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 08:19 PM UTC
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Indeed, Appetite came out in 1987, when I was 20. With my head deep into college radio fare, there's no way I was going to listen to Gun N Roses. It sounded like slick, overproduced dreck then, and still does now.
I won't tell you what I listened to when I was 10. Actually, I probably wasn't even allowed to listen to rock music when I was 10.
Originally posted by very sonick:
Charlie you are just old! I was just 10 when Appetite for Destruction came out and it was the coolest thing since Wayne Gretzky, and by the time the Use Your Illusion tour was over, i wasnt even old enough to drive. I believe many other people on this board are about my age.
I can agree that if that album came out when i was 20 (arent you like 40?) I would have never listened to it. ever.
so there you go. :)
GNR was my first show ever in 1988 (opening for Aerosmith) and probably the album i have the most memories tied to in life. That said, i would never even attempt to see them lve again, it would be too depressing.
Rhett Miller
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 08:31 PM UTC
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But I am old. The truth is the truth.
I had a college buddy who was listening to the Sex Pistols when he was 10, but he was definitely the exception to the rule in my redneck geographical region.
chaz
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Re: I never thought this day would come.
November 24, 2008 at 08:35 PM UTC
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Rhett, nice Squirrel Bait shoutout. Loved that band. That one song Hammering so Hard was just greatâ?¦.
I was 16 when Appetite came out, didnâ??t care for it then or now. When I was 16 If it wasnâ??t punk rock I just didnâ??t careâ?¦
Had a lot of stoner/metal friends and they seemed to like it.