But Chinese Democracy has seen official release:
http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses
And perhaps most surprisingly, it doesn't suck.
http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses
And perhaps most surprisingly, it doesn't suck.
I never thought this day would come.
myspace is blocked at my work. being a huge fan of gnr back in the day i will give this a listen when i get home but im not expecting much. ill keep my fingers crossed though.
i'll be curious to hear what the differences are (if any) from the june leaked version.
manimtired: you'll probably enjoy this. it really is a solid album.
manimtired: you'll probably enjoy this. it really is a solid album.
Originally posted by sweetcell:i remain super skeptical at that. In fact, i wonder how any adult could actually find Guns N Roses music enjoyable without the songs having sentimental value. That leaked version was the pits and i dont plan on listening to the new one.
it really is a solid album.
There, in 10 minutes i disposed the credibility of Guns N Roses AND Justice :)
I sorta feel like waiting a bunch of years before getting the LP.
Well.. maybe a few weeks will be enough punishment for Axl.. Yeah, that'll show 'im!
Well.. maybe a few weeks will be enough punishment for Axl.. Yeah, that'll show 'im!
this is awful
It's hard to imagine it could be anything other than bland, dated, and formulaic.
just a tad bit over produced.
I'm going to agree with manimtired on this one. What the hell is up with that first song. Seriously.
somewhat coherent, nicely produced (esp guitars), often likeable vibe, unholy monstrosity. closer to meatloaf bat out of hell II: back in hell than appetite . . . but thats something
It's not Guns'n'Roses, it's the Axl Rose solo record. If you operate on that idea, it's OK. But it really isn't a G'n'R record.
Yeah, its not GNR . . . literally and figuratively . . . although it does sound related to the parts of the Use Your Illusions which also wasn't really GNR.
I have to say there is definitely something endearing about the album.
I have to say there is definitely something endearing about the album.
Just curious…how was Use Your Illusion (or parts of it) not a GNR album?
Originally posted by Mobius:
although it does sound related to the parts of the Use Your Illusions which also wasn't really GNR
for example, i think a song like november rain was basically an axl solo song that 4/5 of the original GNR played on.
there's a lot of overblown axl-heavy stuff on there where the former soul of GNR ain't apparent.
there's a lot of overblown axl-heavy stuff on there where the former soul of GNR ain't apparent.
Originally posted by nkotb:easy: because it's not appetite for destruction. only appetite is "really" a GnR album. everything else is wannabe-GnR, even the subsequent albums made by GnR :roll:
Just curious…how was Use Your Illusion (or parts of it) not a GNR album?
i wonder what type of venues they will play when they tour..are they verizon big? patriot center big? or DAR big?…or will album sales help determine this?
Originally posted by sweetcell:The emoticon suggests skepticism (or worse), but i think it's true that Use Your Illusions are GNR albums in as much as the White Album is a Beatles album - which is to say 'fractured'. Its Axl-heavy in parts, Izzy-heavy in parts, and occasionally a full-on GNR effort (eg You Could Be Mine and Civil War). And a lot of bad songs which I'll pretend don't exist (unlike the White Album).
Originally posted by nkotb:easy: because it's not appetite for destruction. only appetite is "really" a GnR album. everything else is wannabe-GnR, even the subsequent albums made by GnR :roll:
Just curious…how was Use Your Illusion (or parts of it) not a GNR album?
Originally posted by manimtired:I think album sales and Axl's ego will help determine it. My guess is they shoot for Verizon, but definitely nowhere smaller than the Patriot Center.
i wonder what type of venues they will play when they tour..are they verizon big? patriot center big? or DAR big?…or will album sales help determine this?
Didn't they play Verizon a couple years ago? And that was with no album out. I know they were scheduled to, but a bunch of shows were cancelled.
Show at Verizon in 2002, along with many other arena shows, were cancelled, presumably as a result of poor ticket sales (disguised as 'illness'). In 2006 they played 1st Mariner - no idea how that tour sold generally.
Certainly before the album came out, most folks couldn't wrap there head around the surreal concept of GNR being Axl, Buckethead, Tommy Stinson etc. Now its easier - since the GNR brand has been shapeshifted and people may be more comfortable that this GNR isn't the old GNR but may still have some value.
Personally I think Axl should continue to lay low, play a handfull of selected big shows that can be hyped individually (MSG, The Forum or Staples), lay low some more, and then maybe reform the old band for massive tour . . . although it seems like that ship has sailed
Certainly before the album came out, most folks couldn't wrap there head around the surreal concept of GNR being Axl, Buckethead, Tommy Stinson etc. Now its easier - since the GNR brand has been shapeshifted and people may be more comfortable that this GNR isn't the old GNR but may still have some value.
Personally I think Axl should continue to lay low, play a handfull of selected big shows that can be hyped individually (MSG, The Forum or Staples), lay low some more, and then maybe reform the old band for massive tour . . . although it seems like that ship has sailed