Let's just stop recognizing marriage as a whole

Gosh Joe, that's a hard one. I don't know if someone's death, even his, would inspire me to lick others' loins.

That's what it means, right?

ever been (l)aid (o)n (l)iquid?

lots of lollipops 

right, walkonby…?

this thread is bringing the mega-lolz… :D :D

(l)sd (o)pens (l)egions

manimtired wrote:
this thread is bringing the mega-lolz… :D :D

what took you so long for your embrace?  i've been waiting for such a sweet acronym touch.

for relaxer, Lots of Labia

manimtired wrote:
this thread is bringing the mega-lolz… :D :D

my esophagus goes awry ? like orange lusty zebras?

wanderlust wrote:
for relaxer, Lots of Labia

I prefer a nice lasagna

i was going to start a new thread called "now this is LOL."  but i don't start new threads anymore unless absolutely neccesary.  but i'm sure, most would agree that this is lol / LOL / LOLZ.

Sorry to bring things back on topic when it looks like they've meandered elsewhere, but thanks for posting, very interesting idea.  Never would have thought of it.  I have to say I try to be an understanding person and take everyone's beliefs into account, but for some reason I can't wrap my head around anti-gay rights sentiments.  My brain can't figure out why this even has to be an issue.  Um I certainly could say a lot of other things but I'll bite my tongue and avoid kicking up shit.  But Julian definitely brought some LOLz.  Does he even listen to himself?

Also walkonby that is definitely lol.

the problem with gay marriage is the problem with marriage as a whole… that it is essentially an archaic, religion based institution.  If people want to get married in a church, they can abide by whatever rules their church imposes, but the state has no business getting involved in any of this.

What should be available to all people, regardless of orientation, are civil unions – those would convey all the legal rights and benefits that marriage confers. 

Of course, if this idea ever goes anywhere, the wingnuts will go back to accusing gays of "destroying marriage."  It should be destroyed – at least as a government-sponsored institution.

Doctor wrote:
the problem with gay marriage is the problem with marriage as a whole… that it is essentially an archaic, religion based institution.  If people want to get married in a church, they can abide by whatever rules their church imposes, but the state has no business getting involved in any of this.

What should be available to all people, regardless of orientation, are civil unions – those would convey all the legal rights and benefits that marriage confers. 

Of course, if this idea ever goes anywhere, the wingnuts will go back to accusing gays of "destroying marriage."  It should be destroyed – at least as a government-sponsored institution.

that is absolutely brilliant.  love it. 

the last part is where the problem arises, tho - the wingnuts who are all caught up in the current meaning of marriage (i.e. both religious and state) won't see the benefit of a change to the status quo.  in fact, it's an attack on all they hold dear…  ::)

sweetcell wrote:
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the last part is where the problem arises, tho - the wingnuts who are all caught up in the current meaning of marriage (i.e. both religious and state) won't see the benefit of a change to the status quo.  in fact, it's an attack on all they hold dear…  ::)

that's true… and I think it'll never happen.  But it *should* happen.

Well, if marriage is so bad, then it shouldn't be available to anyone. If gay people or dumb people or promiscuous people or people who actually, y'know, have lives'n'shit, want to make the mistake of getting married, they should be able to.

Doctor wrote:
the problem with gay marriage is the problem with marriage as a whole… that it is essentially an archaic, religion based institution.   If people want to get married in a church, they can abide by whatever rules their church imposes, but the state has no business getting involved in any of this.

What should be available to all people, regardless of orientation, are civil unions – those would convey all the legal rights and benefits that marriage confers. 

Of course, if this idea ever goes anywhere, the wingnuts will go back to accusing gays of "destroying marriage."   It should be destroyed – at least as a government-sponsored institution.

Absolutely. Does the separation of church and state ring a bell? 

From Justin Bond's blog (http://justinbond.com/)

"Marriage should be left strictly to religion. Get married in a church, temple, mosque or synagogue, have a hand-fasting ceremony, do whatever you believe to be the right thing. If your religion is an oppressive one that won?t allow you to do it in their church then you?re going to have to search your soul and make a decision as to what kind of fucked up doctrine or dogma you want to place your faith in.

But in the meantime? Now that Prop 8 has been struck down by what appears to be a concentrated effort by tax-exempt religious organizations across this country it seems we need to be fighting for two things.

1) The repeal of tax-exempt status for any organization that uses that status to disrupt our democracy or affect the outcome of free elections by tax-paying citizens, effectively stripping our citizens of their basic constitutional rights- and by this I not only mean to create homes and families, but to have free and fair elections.

This prop 8 victory if allowed to stand can lead to numerous problems. Organized religions must be put in check in order for this to be a free, rational and peaceful society.

As members of a minority who have repeatedly felt the sting of their hateful oppressive tactics it is up to us to stand up to them and refuse them their power.

2) The word ?Marriage? should be stripped from all civil codes and laws. Let marriage be what its supporters believe it to be -a ?sacred? right. Then let?s get on with fighting for ?equal rights? for all citizens of this country by giving organized religion its right to oppress its own believers -not us! We, and all people who choose to form a legal partnership should be demanding the government create a class of civil union that applies to all couples gay, straight or otherwise who seek to form a legal and binding partnership with equal rights and privileges afforded to all those who choose to enter it. The word ?marriage? should be stricken from the law books as it is unconstitutional and oppressive to minorities.

Once that is taken care of anyone who has a love and compassion-based spiritual community will be able to get married in peace and without government interference. PRAISE THE LORD!"

i havent seen so many lols since the lol-lehammer olympics in 1994! LOL!

U and julian should pork each other LOL lol lolz

manimtired wrote:
i havent seen so many lols since the lol-lehammer olympics in 1994! LOL!

that didnt bring the LOL