McNabb a redskin

Are you a phone sex operator?

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:


On a funny side note, Vinny Ceratto called into my work a few weeks ago, he has a real bad attitude. It took all my strength not to scold him endlessly over the phone.

James wrote:
Are you a phone sex operator?

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:


On a funny side note, Vinny Ceratto called into my work a few weeks ago, he has a real bad attitude. It took all my strength not to scold him endlessly over the phone.

They have operators?

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:Isn't Peyton Manning 33…?

No. He's 34…..

Manning is another notorious all-time loser; his only win of any consequence, pro or college, was against a team that had Rex Grossman for cripe's sake. Someone find where I posted his stats back around the SB with wins and losses in the NFL playoffs and in college in bowl games or vs. Florida. Staggering.

Also, comparing Manning years to McNabb years is apples and oranges. Manning gets hit about 3 times per season and his mobility has always been non-existent.

so…every qb sucks? sounds like you're setting the bar for a trade for a second round pick awfully high

godsshoeshine wrote:
so…every qb sucks? sounds like you're setting the bar for a trade for a second round pick awfully high

I'm setting the bar for building your franchise around someone a little higher. If you want to have McNabb for one season to transition into a new era of a QB you intend to draft, then awesome. Maybe a little bit of an overpayment for a season, but OK. But from almost every story out there, it looks like there's mutual interest in McNabb signing an extension, which effectively means handing over the franchise (which has more pressing needs to begin with) to a guy on the downslope of his career who couldn't win a big game at his pinnacle. That's my objection, not the 2nd round pick.

you dont build a franchise around players, the nfl is a system league. mcnabb is an upgrade (and a relatively cheap one) for shanny's system. maybe if they get to a big game he'll choke, but they havent been to a big game in so long its a calculated risk. one thing i'd bet on is a mike shanahan team having a better run game to support mcnabb than any andy reid team

Julian, wrote:
Manning is another notorious all-time loser; his only win of any consequence, pro or college, was against a team that had Rex Grossman for cripe's sake. Someone find where I posted his stats back around the SB with wins and losses in the NFL playoffs and in college in bowl games or vs. Florida. Staggering.

Also, comparing Manning years to McNabb years is apples and oranges. Manning gets hit about 3 times per season and his mobility has always been non-existent.

They are 2 different quarterbacks, but I guess I'm trying to say that McNabb has never had a great supporting cast, and the one year he had a good receiver he took them to the Super Bowl. Their run game/pass game has been Michael Westbrook. I'd like to see him work in a semi-decent offense. Still incredibly worried about our rag-tag offensive line. Moreso than anything else.

godsshoeshine wrote:
you dont build a franchise around players, the nfl is a system league.

yet nearly every super bowl winner ever has had a hall of fame level qb (capable of delivering in key situations AND capable of being a team leader), and those that didn't had all-time great defenses (and a qb that first did not harm).  you need players AND you need a system.

speaking of which, shanahan's system last had great success around the same time larry johnson, willie parker, clinton portis, donovan mcnabb and marvin harrison (come on skins, pull the trigger!) were tearing up fantasy leagues . . . 2005

who's talking super bowl for the skins? i certainly was not

they went 4-12 last year. something around 8-8 should be the goal, wild card if they are lucky

mcnabb gives you a better chance at that than campbell. its totally worth a second round pick

the colts are the only team to win a super bowl in the last 10 years to start with a qb and build a team around him. i guess you could argue the aikman cowboys and the favre packers in the last 20

James wrote:
I'm not a football fan, but this news seems about as awe-inspiring as the news of Miguel Tejada returning to the Orioles. Hey Miggy hit .313 and lead the NL in doubles last year, so he's going to turn around the O's, right?

Slightly different.  The Orioles signed Tejada to a one-year deal to keep 3B warm for Josh Bell, who they anticipate will be promoted sometime this year - or next.  I don't think they look at him as the savior of the franchise.  The Taters are talking about a 3-year deal for McNabb.  Although it's possible they'll draft a young QB to hold a clipboard for a couple years.   

Shemp wrote:
The Taters are talking about a 3-year deal for McNabb.  Although it's possible they'll draft a young QB to hold a clipboard for a couple years.   

Also different as baseball contracts are guaranteed and football contracts are not.  Give him a 10-year deal with little or no guaranteed money and it won't make a difference - cut him after one year and you're barely on the hook for a cent (salary cap is a little different, but not worth discussing here).

I'm with shoeshine on this one - it certainly can't make the team worse and if he performs half as well he did last year, the Skins will be a .500 team.  Was that second round defensive back really going to help the team turn the corner?  It's a smart move to put butts in seats.

Were they in danger of having their consecutive home sellout streak which dates back to 1968 busted if they didn't trade for him?

vansmack wrote:
  It's a smart move to put butts in seats.

They gave McNabb the #5 jersey.  The Heath Shuler connection does not portend good things.

ggw wrote:
They gave McNabb the #5 jersey.  The Heath Shuler connection does not portend good things.

What's Colt Brennan gonna do!?

James wrote:
Were they in danger of having their consecutive home sellout streak which dates back to 1968 busted if they didn't trade for him?

Yes, bacause advertisers weren't spending the big bucks to advertise at/during broadcasts with a half-empty stadium (regardless of number of tickets sold).

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:

ggw wrote:
They gave McNabb the #5 jersey.  The Heath Shuler connection does not portend good things.

What's Colt Brennan gonna do!?

He got promoted to #15.  The Hoss!

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
I guess I'm trying to say that McNabb has never had a great supporting cast, and the one year he had a good receiver he took them to the Super Bowl.

This is an insane piece of revisionist history. Oh yeah, the Eagles straight up sucked aside from McNabb. And that injured, not playing, T.O. was totally the difference the one year they beat a shitless Falcons team to make it to the Superbowl.

Do you all even watch the sports you talk about? Again, Jesus Christ…

I'm not saying T.O. was the reason they went to the Super Bowl, but look at the stats… and they DID make it to the Super Bowl. They had a decent run game and an elite receiver and apparently that's all he needed to take them TO the Super Bowl. How is that insane? It happened right? Name the other elite receivers and running backs under McNabb in the past 11 years. Todd Pinkston? James Thrash? DeSean Jackson?

I know I don't.

Ba da bing.

Julian, wrote:

Do you all even watch the sports you talk about? Again, Jesus Christ…