shooting near the club tonight

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Is it wrong to feel safe? Like we shouldn't enjoy walking through the streets? You are making it sound like we all deserve to get stabbed. Of course I'm still careful when walking around, but nowhere near as skecthed out as I was, say, 7 or 8 years ago.

You should always want to feel safe. But if you're happy-go-lucky drunk and acting dumb as hell in DC (especially in certain parts of the city), best believe you increase your chances of attracting the wrong kind of attention. And other times, its these crazy kids who want to start shit or ex-cons who just got released going back to their old habits. With innocent folks getting hurt in this midst of it.

And no one deserves it. Thats not what I'm saying. Look at what I said again. I mentioned nowhere that people who move into these new gentrified areas deserve that. It goes beyond the crimewave in the city. My main thing is the denial of what people think this city used to be because we got these new spots built now.

I understand that, listening to some housewives at Nats Park talk about how rundown the area surrounding the park and why they don't fix it up was enfuriating. They absolutely never realized how… not nice it is there. Some people just never realize I guess.

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
I understand that, listening to some housewives at Nats Park talk about how rundown the area surrounding the park and why they don't fix it up was enfuriating. They absolutely never realized how… not nice it is there. Some people just never realize I guess.

Yeah, that's because they were never down there before the Park was built. Yeah, leave it to a couple of housewives to not have a fucking clue in general, nevertheless about the economy and urban commercial development. And christ, it's not even a hellhole in Near SE anyway. "Clean it up?" Southwest of the park where James Creek, Buzzard Point and even Greenleaf Gardens to the west are the areas that need to be "cleaned up," not Near SE. Near SE just needs some development.

Go fuck yourselves, bimbos.

TMUL's delivers.

Thousand wrote:
Go fuck yourselves, bimbos.

Thousand wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
I understand that, listening to some housewives at Nats Park talk about how rundown the area surrounding the park and why they don't fix it up was enfuriating. They absolutely never realized how… not nice it is there. Some people just never realize I guess.

Yeah, that's because they were never down there before the Park was built. Yeah, leave it to a couple of housewives to not have a fucking clue in general, nevertheless about the economy and urban commercial development. And christ, it's not even a hellhole in Near SE anyway. "Clean it up?" Southwest of the park where James Creek, Buzzard Point and even Greenleaf Gardens to the west are the areas that need to be "cleaned up," not Near SE. Near SE just needs some development.

Go fuck yourselves, bimbos.

Another good point. And I live in SE. I'm in Anacostia so I see the development they're plotting to do. That stuff with the stadium is just the beginning. Wait until they hit up Good Hope Road. If I'm not mistaken, its part of that whole Waterfront makeover.

Ardamus wrote:

First of all, I'm an Howard alumni; don't twist up what I'm saying. I know a bit more about the neighborhood than you'd know. For example, the freshman dorm for the guys, Drew Hall, is two streets away from Hobart which used to be (and still sort of is) a notorious block for all kinds of shit. Second of all, don't joke about that happening around in the area of Howard University. Do your research and you'll find out about crimes that took place outside of the campus area of where Howard is. Have you ever walked around Columbia Rd at night? How about taking trip up Georgia Ave. NW towards Petiworth around 1am like you're on your way to the Penthouse? Do some of those things and get back to me. When I used to go around those parts, anything could happen uptown. Don't sleep.

I still don't get why you're saying that Howard is the cause of all that, which is what your post basically said.    Anyway I haven't been up that way on Georgia since the Foxy Playground got shut down.

walkonby wrote:
uhmm . . . you don't get stabbed in dc.  that would require balls of the perp to be able to get that close to the victim.  shoot them from a distance makes you a "real man."  just ask the military.

the NRA is coming for you…

anyway, some dood got stabbed right outside my window.  Just sayin.

you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist.  ban the person from the boards."

I think we should introduce "Ardamus" as a verb meaning "to completely cut through the hysterical 9:30 forum bullshit with actual life experiences."  Well played, sir.

Shootings outside the club are WAY too "real life" for most of the denizens here.  They prefer to discuss really important matters like the quality of their $80 Merriweather seats….(always relevant) "Smashing Pumpkins" presales…white guys loving soccer/hockey….how f*cking HILARIOUS Conan O'Brien is……….and i phones.

Please don't cause them to lose their focus.

Brian

walkonby wrote:
you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist.  ban the person from the boards."

If a straight person says "that's gay," do you take it differently than if a gay person says it?

Ardamus wrote:
But just wait….it'll change again.

Whats that supposed to mean, that it will get bad again? 

I work in SE by the stadium, have been for years, and there is no way that area would ever get as bad as it was before the stadium was built.  I used to always have to be on guard getting to work or going to Nation when it was open, but now I feel relatively safe. 

So did you mean it (dc) will change for the better again, or get worse? 

I personally think it will continue to get better.  But maybe im just a bit of an optimist. 

Doctor wrote:

walkonby wrote:
you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist.  ban the person from the boards."

If a straight person says "that's gay," do you take it differently than if a gay person says it?

no . . . it's all gay.

Brian_Wallace wrote:

They prefer to discuss really important matters like the quality of their $80 Merriweather seats….(always relevant) "Smashing Pumpkins" presales…

this is primarily a music forum, right?

Brian_Wallace wrote:

I think we should introduce "Ardamus" as a verb meaning "to completely cut through the hysterical 9:30 forum bullshit with actual life experiences."   Well played, sir.

Shootings outside the club are WAY too "real life" for most of the denizens here.  They prefer to discuss really important matters like the quality of their $80 Merriweather seats….(always relevant) "Smashing Pumpkins" presales…white guys loving soccer/hockey….how f*cking HILARIOUS Conan O'Brien is……….and i phones.

Please don't cause them to lose their focus.

Brian

Haha at this post. I'm not trying to be a buzzkill or even keep it real like that. All I'm trying to do is have an honest conversation since it was brought up. I'm waiting for Julie aka The WELEBRITY to show up in this thread and start talking trash as usual. Brian…..if we ever meet, homie…..I got you on drink. And thats real.

killsaly wrote:

Ardamus wrote:
But just wait….it'll change again.

Whats that supposed to mean, that it will get bad again? 

I work in SE by the stadium, have been for years, and there is no way that area would ever get as bad as it was before the stadium was built.  I used to always have to be on guard getting to work or going to Nation when it was open, but now I feel relatively safe. 

So did you mean it (dc) will change for the better again, or get worse? 

I personally think it will continue to get better.  But maybe im just a bit of an optimist. 

I mean it will get better for some and worse for others; thats all over DC, especially in SE where there's tons of homes for sale that they focusing on re-structuring (especially parts of Anacostia where the view of DC is official). And I know how things were at the Nation. I used to go up there every once and while and check out shows like De La Soul and The Roots rockin' there. You sound like you know some folks who've been in this city for a minute. I've talked to quite a few heads who've been in this city for a minute that point out the patterns of th changes DC goes through.

walkonby wrote:
you know . . . if a white person had said what ardamus said . . . man this place would still be exploding with, "you're a racist.  ban the person from the boards."

Hey, I got attacked for making a joke about hipsters in one thread. I'm not surprised my point is getting questioned in this thread either. LOL.

Doctor wrote:

Ardamus wrote:

First of all, I'm an Howard alumni; don't twist up what I'm saying. I know a bit more about the neighborhood than you'd know. For example, the freshman dorm for the guys, Drew Hall, is two streets away from Hobart which used to be (and still sort of is) a notorious block for all kinds of shit. Second of all, don't joke about that happening around in the area of Howard University. Do your research and you'll find out about crimes that took place outside of the campus area of where Howard is. Have you ever walked around Columbia Rd at night? How about taking trip up Georgia Ave. NW towards Petiworth around 1am like you're on your way to the Penthouse? Do some of those things and get back to me. When I used to go around those parts, anything could happen uptown. Don't sleep.

I still don't get why you're saying that Howard is the cause of all that, which is what your post basically said.    Anyway I haven't been up that way on Georgia since the Foxy Playground got shut down.

No no no. I did not say that. I said the area surrounding Howard. Pay attention to what I just posted.

All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.

Thousand wrote:
All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.

And in the 1960s, the Feds wanted to pave Rock Creek Park over with a six-lane highway bisecting the city.  What's your point?

i like banana splits.  with nuts.  and two cherries, not one.  thank you.

Doctor wrote:

Thousand wrote:
All you need to know about Near SE pre-ballpark was that the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1992 wanted to built a prison where the McDonald's is at South Capitol and I St.

And in the 1960s, the Feds wanted to pave Rock Creek Park over with a six-lane highway bisecting the city.  What's your point?

Developers run the city, homie. With that, the money comes in when the housing market goes through gentrification in certain areas. And lets not get into how big business is tied into the real estate of prisons. Given that DC has a high crime rate, they can make money off of locking up criminals. But thats a different topic.

whoever shot anyone near the club either genuinely had good reason or is just totally on the wrong side of history.  the area is dominated by nice condos, sports bars, nice bars lounges . . . ben's is a freaking disney-like attraction at this point.  some people don't get it.  some people are stuck in the past.  i mean if you're with it enough to have a cell phone, let alone a smartphone or whatnot, you should know better than to shoot anyone near the club.

What's with this singular mindset? There's a whole host of different sorts of people who float through the area and some of them are rather sleazy. Obviously, not as many as at one time but to deny that a few at some point don't venture through, or might even live there, is just total denial or stupidity. Take your pick. I guess all those smash and grabs were just drunken accidents. People falling towards cars and their elbows catch the windows on a bad angle.  ::)  You've got all kinds of dynamics going on all within one area and a few of those aren't to the majority of locals and visitors' best interest. In fact, the multi-dynamic social environment is why so many people love major international cities such as DC but most people know that you have to put up with, at least, a little bad along with the good. And then there's the crappy economy which is definitly going to bring grief to any neighborhood. Not everyone in DC has some gravy government job. There's a lot of people hurting all over. That's going to bring the worst out in a few. Plus you've got a few gangs who float through the area. Might even live there for all I know. What about that girl gang who stabbed someone, I don't know, maybe a year ago? Just face it, it's not all hipsters and buppies populating the U St. corridor. The sooner you realize that, the safer you will be. Maybe not enough to avoid the area but definitely enough to always bring your street smarts along with you.

Doomie, I suspect that you and Ardamus are much more in the same camp than is apparent in this thread. Kind of think that you just got off on the wrong foot. Hope you two kiss and make up. Well, at least start over and toast a virtual pint or something.  ;)